“Nerf Sorc”

Wuuffyy

I just want to see what PVP would look like if they were to do something like— increase the damage dealt through shields by shield breaker to 10000 oblivion damage from 2000 oblivion damage. X)— Since you can destroy my healing with defile and dots AND half your toolkit goes through my one defense: roll. It’s only fair. (Stam builds people). This may or may not be a troll post.

Danksta

No thanks, they should just get rid of oblivion damage imo

Beardimus

Dang, sorry, I thought this was a post about ESO to start with then realised it can't be.

Apherius

Wolf_Watching wrote: »

Since you can destroy my heeding with defines and dots and half your toolkit goes through my one defense: roll. It’s only fair.

Are you talking about sorc ? Crystal,force pulse,fury, light attacks, heavy attacks, rune cage, clench... all this goes trough your only defense ? I did not know these things were undodgeable. Which dots are you talking about ? Curse ?!

Nha I made a mistake, you probably talk about these shield breaker users being OP.

Kingslayer513

That post was barely comprehensible.

ak_pvp

Kingslayer513 wrote: »

That post was barely comprehensible.

Its fine, just sorc tears. They get their turn being actually not good for once and they hate it. Does it suck, yes, but can I say I am mourning, nope. Taken a lot of nerfs due to the sorcblade masses I am salty as hell now.

Apherius

ak_pvp wrote: »

Kingslayer513 wrote: »

That post was barely comprehensible.

Its fine, just sorc tears. They get their turn being actually not good for once and they hate it. Does it suck, yes, but can I say I am mourning, nope. Taken a lot of nerfs due to the sorcblade masses I am salty as hell now.

Isn't that Sorc-haters tears ? He complain about sorc skills going through dodge ( lel ) and then wonder if a shield breaker buff would remove sorc from PVP.

Kadoin

I didn't know sorcs were the only ones using damage shields. Let me guess, you will say you never use damage shields and ignore the fact that someone may have used barrier, igneous shield, bone shield, healing ward, magma shell, etc. sometime in your time in Cyrodil and it saved your hide.

But buff shieldbreaker because sorcs! Shieldbreaker buff means that everyone would lose, not just sorcs, and not just mag builds.

Chibs

another “l2p” comment

Finviuswe

Wolf_Watching wrote: »

Another “Nerf Sorc” Post

Didn't need one. They were already nerfed.

Sorcs are now a weakened, shadow of their former selves. They can't sustain any more nerfs. The class isn't good anymore, if u can't kill a mag sorc in 2018, it's your fault!

I can't remember the last time a sorc has even remotely threatened me, let alone killed me save a random endless fury spam or implosion proc. The class isn't threatening at all anymore, it's a sideshow at best.

ku5h

ESO_GOD wrote: »

Wolf_Watching wrote: »

Another “Nerf Sorc” Post

Didn't need one. They were already nerfed.

Sorcs are now a weakened, shadow of their former selves. They can't sustain any more nerfs. The class isn't good anymore, if u can't kill a mag sorc in 2018, it's your fault!

I can't remember the last time a sorc has even remotely threatened me, let alone killed me save a random endless fury spam or implosion proc. The class isn't threatening at all anymore, it's a sideshow at best.

As long as we have bunch of potato LegolasBlades running around Cyro in all divines, you will have Sorc hate, so basically it will never end.

WuffyCerulei

So this sort of thread in a nutshell...

ak_pvp

Apherius wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Kingslayer513 wrote: »

That post was barely comprehensible.

Its fine, just sorc tears. They get their turn being actually not good for once and they hate it. Does it suck, yes, but can I say I am mourning, nope. Taken a lot of nerfs due to the sorcblade masses I am salty as hell now.

Isn't that Sorc-haters tears ? He complain about sorc skills going through dodge ( lel ) and then wonder if a shield breaker buff would remove sorc from PVP.

Nah, if you look at the shield breaker buff its obvious sarcasm. Like the old "you might as well delete X/Y/Z classes." because they got nerfed.

Wuuffyy

Fun stuff

Wuuffyy

Wolf_Watching wrote: »

I just want to see what PVP would look like if they were to do something like— increase the damage dealt through shields by shield breaker to 10000 oblivion damage from 2000 oblivion damage. X)— Since you can destroy my healing with defile and dots AND half your toolkit goes through my one defense: roll. It’s only fair. (Stam builds).

Just clarifying.

Wuuffyy

Oh and on top of that... applies to people with 5 or more pieces of heavy equipped.

GrigorijMalahevich

#nerfsorc

usmguy1234

Wolf_Watching wrote: »

I just want to see what PVP would look like if they were to do something like— increase the damage dealt through shields by shield breaker to 10000 oblivion damage from 2000 oblivion damage. X)— Since you can destroy my healing with defile and dots AND half your toolkit goes through my one defense: roll. It’s only fair. (Stam builds people). This may or may not be a troll post.

Last time I checked sorc has no class access to defile and most all of our dots are stationary and ground based. If you have trouble with those dots, you have bigger problems. Curse is the only class skill we have now that is undodgeable and if that alone kills you, you may need to revisit your build.

Wuuffyy

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Wolf_Watching wrote: »

I just want to see what PVP would look like if they were to do something like— increase the damage dealt through shields by shield breaker to 10000 oblivion damage from 2000 oblivion damage. X)— Since you can destroy my healing with defile and dots AND half your toolkit goes through my one defense: roll. It’s only fair. (Stam builds people). This may or may not be a troll post.

Last time I checked sorc has no class access to defile and most all of our dots are stationary and ground based. If you have trouble with those dots, you have bigger problems. Curse is the only class skill we have now that is undodgeable and if that alone kills you, you may need to revisit your build.

Enchant for Defile. Curse is undodgeable and unblockable, Fury is unblockable, RC still unblockable, Destro wheel spam doesn’t provide real defense as it is unsustainable to spam roll against it, meteor is undodgeable and unreflectable, dawnbreaker is undodgeable, Magic proc sets r broke and Shields...

Wuuffyy

Shields allow full heals through them, have no counterplay execept to run ppl outta mag or if they’re stupid get a lucky burst with shields down, go over your health bar, somehow are affected by damage reduction from cp, mist, etc even tho you aren’t even taking damage, drop resist lays waste to pen builds and uncrittable lays waste to damage builds. Plus everything is ranged.

Wuuffyy

Your counterplay to my rolley poley builds are half your toolkit, my counterplay to your shields is to slot 1 of 5 sets/enchants, that affect only you and others like you.

Imagine, for example, if incap did oblivion damage.

usmguy1234

Wolf_Watching wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Wolf_Watching wrote: »

I just want to see what PVP would look like if they were to do something like— increase the damage dealt through shields by shield breaker to 10000 oblivion damage from 2000 oblivion damage. X)— Since you can destroy my healing with defile and dots AND half your toolkit goes through my one defense: roll. It’s only fair. (Stam builds people). This may or may not be a troll post.

Last time I checked sorc has no class access to defile and most all of our dots are stationary and ground based. If you have trouble with those dots, you have bigger problems. Curse is the only class skill we have now that is undodgeable and if that alone kills you, you may need to revisit your build.

Enchant for Defile. Curse is undodgeable and unblockable, Fury is unblockable, RC still unblockable, Destro wheel spam doesn’t provide real defense as it is unsustainable to spam roll against it, meteor is undodgeable and unreflectable, dawnbreaker is undodgeable, Magic proc sets r broke and Shields...

You originally said dodgeroll so why are we talking about block? And as far as enchants, dawnbreaker and meteor go, those are available to everyone, not just sorcs.

usmguy1234

Instead of posting rubbish, why don't you post your build, stats, skills and class and maybe we can help you out.

Wuuffyy

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Wolf_Watching wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Wolf_Watching wrote: »

I just want to see what PVP would look like if they were to do something like— increase the damage dealt through shields by shield breaker to 10000 oblivion damage from 2000 oblivion damage. X)— Since you can destroy my healing with defile and dots AND half your toolkit goes through my one defense: roll. It’s only fair. (Stam builds people). This may or may not be a troll post.

Last time I checked sorc has no class access to defile and most all of our dots are stationary and ground based. If you have trouble with those dots, you have bigger problems. Curse is the only class skill we have now that is undodgeable and if that alone kills you, you may need to revisit your build.

Enchant for Defile. Curse is undodgeable and unblockable, Fury is unblockable, RC still unblockable, Destro wheel spam doesn’t provide real defense as it is unsustainable to spam roll against it, meteor is undodgeable and unreflectable, dawnbreaker is undodgeable, Magic proc sets r broke and Shields...

You originally said dodgeroll so why are we talking about block? And as far as enchants, dawnbreaker and meteor go, those are available to everyone, not just sorcs.

Just stam defense in general. And sorc and only sorcs can utilize these to their full potential. Plus isn’t it funny how newer trials on vet and vet plus disallow stam builds. This is b/c it is more survivable to hide in the back with shield and do fully ranged deeps than to be up in something’s face stabbing it with a 5 foot sword in the neck head and heart. Th. Where is my dmg buff for being a build that has to back away and stop dps all together to survive (referring to the non op but still a buff RD change).

usmguy1234

Wolf_Watching wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Wolf_Watching wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Wolf_Watching wrote: »

I just want to see what PVP would look like if they were to do something like— increase the damage dealt through shields by shield breaker to 10000 oblivion damage from 2000 oblivion damage. X)— Since you can destroy my healing with defile and dots AND half your toolkit goes through my one defense: roll. It’s only fair. (Stam builds people). This may or may not be a troll post.

Last time I checked sorc has no class access to defile and most all of our dots are stationary and ground based. If you have trouble with those dots, you have bigger problems. Curse is the only class skill we have now that is undodgeable and if that alone kills you, you may need to revisit your build.

Enchant for Defile. Curse is undodgeable and unblockable, Fury is unblockable, RC still unblockable, Destro wheel spam doesn’t provide real defense as it is unsustainable to spam roll against it, meteor is undodgeable and unreflectable, dawnbreaker is undodgeable, Magic proc sets r broke and Shields...

You originally said dodgeroll so why are we talking about block? And as far as enchants, dawnbreaker and meteor go, those are available to everyone, not just sorcs.

Just stam defense in general. And sorc and only sorcs can utilize these to their full potential. Plus isn’t it funny how newer trials on vet and vet plus disallow stam builds. This is b/c it is more survivable to hide in the back with shield and do fully ranged deeps than to be up in something’s face stabbing it with a 5 foot sword in the neck head and heart. Th. Where is my dmg buff for being a build that has to back away and stop dps all together to survive (referring to the non op but still a buff RD change).

And now you've gone from talking about pvp to pve. Can we stick to one subject at a time? If sorc makes you sick, you should watch a top notch magblade dps. They are light years above everyone else.

GrigorijMalahevich

I do not know who is this troll, but this is gold!

Wuuffyy

#nerfsorx2018

rafaelcsmaia

Sure, lets give cloak increasing cost like streak, make fear dodgeable like rune cage and return sloads to the former state of popping you out of stealth, since oblivion damage is so nice eh?

This may or may not be a troll response

idk

Wolf_Watching wrote: »

I just want to see what PVP would look like if they were to do something like— increase the damage dealt through shields by shield breaker to 10000 oblivion damage from 2000 oblivion damage. X)— Since you can destroy my healing with defile and dots AND half your toolkit goes through my one defense: roll. It’s only fair. (Stam builds people). This may or may not be a troll post.

In case anyone did not read through to the last sentence in the OP I have provided it in bold here.

josh.lackey_ESO

Invisibility should be PvE only since Sorcs can drink invis pots. Remove invisibility from PvP!

Xvorg

Wolf_Watching wrote: »

Shields allow full heals through them, have no counterplay execept to run ppl outta mag or if they’re stupid get a lucky burst with shields down, go over your health bar, somehow are affected by damage reduction from cp, mist, etc even tho you aren’t even taking damage, drop resist lays waste to pen builds and uncrittable lays waste to damage builds. Plus everything is ranged.

You remember me, like 3 years ago, when I also came to the forums "nerf sorcs!"... well, somebody told me that the best way to deal with sorcs was to learn to play as a sorc. After some weeks debating, I decided to follow the advice, and I learnt to play as a sorc. After that it was quite easier to kill them.

If you can't deal with shield stacking without Shield Breaker, then you should try a Sorc to see what are they weak points and how you can exploit them. In simple, big burst hurts them a lot, same as DoTs. They easily burn their magicka spamming shields and healing, and when doing that, they're not doing dmg.

So, it is a L2P issue...