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MagNB PvP Healer 'BGs Specialized' - UPDATED FOR SCALEBREAKER

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>:)Magicka Nightblade PvP Healer - "BESTOWER OF BLOOD" >:)
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RACE/MUNDUS/OTHER
RACE: Argonian
MUNDUS: Atronach or Mage
VAMPIRE? Optional
FOOD: Tri-Stat
POTIONS: +Magicka/+Magicka Regen, +Health/+Health Regen, Immovability

CP STATS (NO BATTLE SPIRIT BUFF OR PARIAH BUFF)
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GEAR
FRONT: Powered/Infused -- Preference Blackrose Resto Staff w/ Berserker Glyph
BACK: Charged Transmutation Lightning Staff w/ Shock Enchant

5 Heavy, 1 Medium, 1 Light
Light Bogdan Helmet (Tri-Stat-Infused) // Medium Bogdan Shoulders (Magicka-Impen)
Heavy Pariah Body Pieces (Tri-Stat-Infused Chest // Impen Hands, Waist, Legs, Boots-All Magicka Enchants)

Transmutation Jewelry (3 Arcane - Magicka Regen)

CHAMPION POINTS (MAX CP)
37 Warlord
9 Sprinter
64 Mooncalf
64 Arcanist
37 Tenacity
56 Tumbling

76 Blessed
26 Elfborn
76 Elemental Expert
21 Staff Expert
37 Master at Arms
18 Shattering Blows
16 Thaumaturge

23 Ironclad
39 Resistant
40 Thick Skinned
43 Hardy
43 Elemental Defender
16 Expert Defender
23 Bastion
43 Quick Recovery

SKILLS
---Resto Front Bar---
Structured Entropy
Ward Ally
Refreshing Path
Healthy Offering
Radiating Regeneration
ULT: Light's Champion

---Destro Back Bar---
Phantasmal Blur
Shadowy Disguise
Manifestation of Terror/Mass Hysteria -- Preference
FLEX: Shadow Image, Elusive Mist, Efficient Purge
Siphoning Attacks
ULT: Temporal Guard

ACCESSIBLE BUFFS & DEBUFFS
Major/Minor Mending
Major Expedition
Major Vitality
Major Sorcery
Major Force
Major Evasion
Minor Protection (back bar only)
Major Ward (100% uptime)
Major Resolve (100% uptime)
Minor Maim
Minor Vulnerability

NOTES
-Healthy Offering is very dangerous this patch with DoTs, so tread lightly with it.
*It can still heal through walls (yet to be confirmed whether this is intended or not).
For those who don't know, it creates a self DoT that cannot be purged (or bypassed with Shadowy Disguise) but heals teammates for a very comparable amount to that of Templar's Breath of Light.

-Ward Ally over Healing Ward is the better choice as the shield strength is too insignificant on this skill to take advantage of the heal.
*Radiating Regeneration + Refreshing Path with guaranteed Major Vitality is amazing for those few seconds -- you really don't need Healing Ward.

-Shadowy Disguise negates those nasty single-target DoTs while it is effective. It also allows you to reset and continue healing from the edge.
*Good players use counters, you will be in the thick of the action (AoEs) a lot of the time (even playing on the edge), you will be a target as a healer -- in other words don't always expect it to work or even save you.
**Also remember you are a healer so you can't spend all your time in the shadows and expect your team to survive.

-Shadow Image helps tremendously with resetting but the recent cost increase IS noticeable.
*If you are a Vampire (which may be viable for some), I would suggest Elusive Mist here.
**Efficient Purge is another good alternative here but it only has a 18m radius and is costlier so it's not always ideal or even sustainable.
While ZoS has made efforts to fix Shadow Image, it still has bugs involved with it -- this is why it is my Flex spot since I feel that I should have at least one.

-Manifestation of Terror is my go to for area denial. It works well because like Healthy Offering it is very inconspicuous. If you prefer Mass Hysteria for the instant Fear, go for it!
Time Freeze actually works better in CP related content but it is not sustainable in no-CP.

-Some may be wondering where Merciless Resolve is -- it got a 5% damage reduction nerf and for a healer I don't find it is worth the slot.
I don't even slot it anymore on my damage NB lol.

-Others may also be wondering where Soul Siphon is -- the cast time nerf hurt this Ultimate badly. I don't care what ZoS says - it can be interrupted, and you also have to anticipate casting it on your teammates before they even really need it -- waste. For that reason I am using Light's Champion for an "oh sh!t" heal.

-Sustain feels like forever, stats are well-balanced, competent teammates are surviving, mobility is great!

-I chose a Lightning Staff for my backbar for the Minor Vulnerability debuff. Very good uptime with the Charged trait!

-I'm no expert on CP setups but I listed what I have in my setup for what it's worth.

-The biggest reason to play a NB healer is that it's something different. For the most part I'm a non-conformist and I like doing things that others are either against or not doing. It's important that it works too, which in this case I find it does.

SCREENS/VIDEOS
Healing potential: (OUTDATED)
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Build in action in BGs: (TO BE UPDATED)
https://youtu.be/ScPR3bKrW-U
Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTTzLlgErY6OBDExTSD8kvw?view_as=subscriber
I don't post regular content and don't care if you subscribe lol -- it's just storage!

ENJOY!
Edited by brandonv516 on September 16, 2019 6:38PM
  • FoolishOptimist
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    I love this! I run a NB PvE dungeon healer and they’re entirely underrated.

    Would you consider Earthgore over Troll King? I’m experimenting between the two now I’m battlegrounds and I’m enjoying TK, but love the visual of EG.
    Edited by FoolishOptimist on August 4, 2018 11:27PM
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    Have you tried to heal morph of tether?
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    I love this! I run a NB PvE dungeon healer and they’re entirely underrated.

    Would you consider Earthgore over Troll King? I’m experimenting between the two now I’m battlegrounds and I’m enjoying TK, but love the visual of EG.

    I can imagine Earthgore is very desirable for those "oh sh!t" moments but I think my burst heals compensate well in that department. I haven't had much time to experiment with it though to be honest because I still need the helmet. For the time being I am content with Troll King.
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Have you tried to heal morph of tether?

    Yep. I tried it and found the animation to be a bit laggy for my tastes. I think the skill has a place in Cyrodiil for large groups but not in BGs. I can see it being very wasteful in small groups. 28m change was nice though!
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    You named your build Bestower of Blood but you're not using one set that rains blood down your allies? 5/10 roleplaying
    If you want me to reply to your comment type @Ankael07 in it.
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    Ankael07 wrote: »
    You named your build Bestower of Blood but you're not using one set that rains blood down your allies? 5/10 roleplaying

    I was so confused between Bloodspawn being earth effects and Earthgore being blood effects, I just settled on something else lol.

    Nice catch! Definitely would fit the RP meter.
    ...now I have to farm the helmet.
    Edited by brandonv516 on August 5, 2018 5:45AM
  • ChefZero
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    Nice to see a healer PvP vid, uncommon. :)

    Why are you use rapid over mutagen?
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    ChefZero wrote: »
    Nice to see a healer PvP vid, uncommon. :)

    Why are you use rapid over mutagen?

    Any benefit I would see going mutagen instead? I've always just morphed it Rapid and never thought elsewise.
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    ChefZero wrote: »
    Nice to see a healer PvP vid, uncommon. :)

    Why are you use rapid over mutagen?

    Any benefit I would see going mutagen instead? I've always just morphed it Rapid and never thought elsewise.

    Cause a NB already has much HoTs and IMO the small oh-***-heal and small purge are better. I often cast mutagen, healing ward, mutagen if someone drops low.
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  • brandonv516
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    ChefZero wrote: »
    ChefZero wrote: »
    Nice to see a healer PvP vid, uncommon. :)

    Why are you use rapid over mutagen?

    Any benefit I would see going mutagen instead? I've always just morphed it Rapid and never thought elsewise.

    Cause a NB already has much HoTs and IMO the small oh-***-heal and small purge are better. I often cast mutagen, healing ward, mutagen if someone drops low.

    Worth a shot. Won't hurt to play around with it.
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    Have you considered VMA resto? Would let you drop that magika sustain a little in exchange for more Spell damage
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Have you considered VMA resto? Would let you drop that magika sustain a little in exchange for more Spell damage

    Yeah definitely considered and want it to work. Haven't had a chance to try but do you think Transmutation will proc enough on that 2H bar?
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Have you considered VMA resto? Would let you drop that magika sustain a little in exchange for more Spell damage

    Yeah definitely considered and want it to work. Haven't had a chance to try but do you think Transmutation will proc enough on that 2H bar?

    Yes. It’s a 20 second buff and Siphoning has a 20 second duration, when you’re in your buff/kite phases you will apply this buff automatically. As long as your HoTs are running when you go back bar then it will proc.
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Have you considered VMA resto? Would let you drop that magika sustain a little in exchange for more Spell damage

    Yeah definitely considered and want it to work. Haven't had a chance to try but do you think Transmutation will proc enough on that 2H bar?

    Yes. It’s a 20 second buff and Siphoning has a 20 second duration, when you’re in your buff/kite phases you will apply this buff automatically. As long as your HoTs are running when you go back bar then it will proc.

    Worked pretty well using your suggestion. Thanks for the input. Tough loss but almost hit the million club with it:

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    Edited by brandonv516 on August 6, 2018 6:29AM
  • Kartalin
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    I would suggest running inner light on both bars for more crit heals, more magicka, and more sustain. Maybe replace healthy offering and shadow image.
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    Kartalin wrote: »
    I would suggest running inner light on both bars for more crit heals, more magicka, and more sustain. Maybe replace healthy offering and shadow image.

    Thanks for the input.

    Sustain isn't an issue as you can see my magicka recovery is over 2k. I would love to slot Inner Light but those two skills you suggested removing are pillars of the build:

    Healthy Offering
    This is an impressive burst heal. If you check out the video, you can see it heal for almost 9k in a no-CP environment. It provides Minor Mending also.

    Shadow Image
    While I could probably do without this, it provides Minor Maim and allows me to reset if I am being pressured.
  • brandonv516
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    Broke 1m heals in BGs twice now! 1.2m is my top number.

    I tried out Sanctuary over Transmutation but ultimately returned to what I'm using in this build. Sanctuary puts out some really strong heals. However, 1k+ buff to crit resistance from Trans for yourself and teammates is amazing for survival.

    I also tried out Mutagen but didn't like it as much as Rapid Regen.

    Still haven't had an opportunity to farm the Earthgore helmet.
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    Broke 1m heals in BGs twice now! 1.2m is my top number.

    I tried out Sanctuary over Transmutation but ultimately returned to what I'm using in this build. Sanctuary puts out some really strong heals. However, 1k+ buff to crit resistance from Trans for yourself and teammates is amazing for survival.

    I also tried out Mutagen but didn't like it as much as Rapid Regen.

    Still haven't had an opportunity to farm the Earthgore helmet.

    Definitely approve. Personally in small scale, i very much prefer to posses some form of lethal, and aim for 30/70 ratio of damage done to healing done. Offering itself is so damn good i actually have recently switched back to swollow soul for survival sustain. The healing component of funnel is not reduced by battle spirit ofc but the damage hits fairly weak unless you are finshing for strong procs on enemy pets and making sure to let the hot cook, not overriding with a weaker one. Minor vit plus minor mend and heavy passives on top of temporal gaurd and argonian is absolutely the sex.

    I also have traditionally used mutagen with vma resto, esp in 5 heavy without eledrain. 1 bar trans is plenty with how many hots you have running and how often you bar swap. And yeah earthgore screams nb healer from ghe aesthetics alone XD.

    Did i say offering was godlike? Because offering is godlike.
    really though, its *** godlike
    Edited by exeeter702 on August 15, 2018 9:23PM
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    exeeter702 wrote: »
    Broke 1m heals in BGs twice now! 1.2m is my top number.

    I tried out Sanctuary over Transmutation but ultimately returned to what I'm using in this build. Sanctuary puts out some really strong heals. However, 1k+ buff to crit resistance from Trans for yourself and teammates is amazing for survival.

    I also tried out Mutagen but didn't like it as much as Rapid Regen.

    Still haven't had an opportunity to farm the Earthgore helmet.

    Definitely approve. Personally in small scale, i very much prefer to posses some form of lethal, and aim for 30/70 ratio of damage done to healing done. Offering itself is so damn good i actually have recently switched back to swollow soul for survival sustain. The healing component of funnel is not reduced by battle spirit ofc but the damage hits fairly weak unless you are finshing for strong procs on enemy pets and making sure to let the hot cook, not overriding with a weaker one. Minor vit plus minor mend and heavy passives on top of temporal gaurd and argonian is absolutely the sex.

    I also have traditionally used mutagen with vma resto, esp in 5 heavy without eledrain. 1 bar trans is plenty with how many hots you have running and how often you bar swap. And yeah earthgore screams nb healer from ghe aesthetics alone XD.

    Did i say offering was godlike? Because offering is godlike.
    really though, its *** godlike

    Lol it is absolutely godlike.

    It's actually a bit unfair right now with how it works. Not going to go into details but anyone who spends 5 minutes healing teammates with it will see what I'm referring to.

    Also for anyone wondering, Cloak does not negate the Healthy Offering ticks like all other DoTs. It does not expose you though.

    Update: Switched out Time Freeze with Manifestion of Terror in Battlegrounds. It's a smaller radius but goes off sooner and can still impact up to 6 enemies with Fear. Every enemy that gets Feared also gets a snare for 4s. It's very nice to drop it and forget about it too as it lasts for ~1min.
    Edited by brandonv516 on August 16, 2018 1:41AM
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Have you considered VMA resto? Would let you drop that magika sustain a little in exchange for more Spell damage

    Yeah definitely considered and want it to work. Haven't had a chance to try but do you think Transmutation will proc enough on that 2H bar?

    Yes. It’s a 20 second buff and Siphoning has a 20 second duration, when you’re in your buff/kite phases you will apply this buff automatically. As long as your HoTs are running when you go back bar then it will proc.

    Worked pretty well using your suggestion. Thanks for the input. Tough loss but almost hit the million club with it:

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    OMG I know like every player on all teams

    Edit: sorry was taken by the pic for a sec. Very inspiring thread, I'm glad I found it.
    Edited by Waffennacht on August 16, 2018 6:08AM
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  • HowlKimchi
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    Nice build and gameplay! I myself love my magblade healer. I’m running transmutation and rattlecage on mine to open up a skill slot and the potions. Immov and tripots are very nice since im using destro resto. Also, i only have to change up a few skills for my heavy armor damage dealer setup.

    I would comment though that i think you should try infused with spell damage glyph on your resto. Would probably output similar numbers in healing when it should matter, and you also deal more damage.

    My build has a more offensive approach to healing, since in small scale, especially in BGs, you wont need to heal as much if your enemies are dead more quickly.

    My suggestion, though it pains me to do so since it’s a class skill burst heal, is to remove healthy offering since healing ward already fills the spot for a burst heal, with the added pro of it working on yourself when you need it. I would slot merciless resolve on its place so i can deal more damage with funnel health (minor berserk) which would make it heal for more. Also having a burst skill to add to my teammates’ is also nice.

    But hey, those are just my suggestions and you’re already doing great. Always nice to see a fellow magblade healer!
    Edited by HowlKimchi on August 17, 2018 3:01AM
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    HaruKamui wrote: »
    Nice build and gameplay! I myself love my magblade healer. I’m running transmutation and rattlecage on mine to open up a skill slot and the potions. Immov and tripots are very nice since im using destro resto. Also, i only have to change up a few skills for my heavy armor damage dealer setup.

    I would comment though that i think you should try infused with spell damage glyph on your resto. Would probably output similar numbers in healing when it should matter, and you also deal more damage.

    My build has a more offensive approach to healing, since in small scale, especially in BGs, you wont need to heal as much if your enemies are dead more quickly.

    My suggestion, though it pains me to do so since it’s a class skill burst heal, is to remove healthy offering since healing ward already fills the spot for a burst heal, with the added pro of it working on yourself when you need it. I would slot merciless resolve on its place so i can deal more damage with funnel health (minor berserk) which would make it heal for more. Also having a burst skill to add to my teammates’ is also nice.

    But hey, those are just my suggestions and you’re already doing great. Always nice to see a fellow magblade healer!

    Thanks for the feedback. I love the idea of going infused - will likely be trying that out soon.

    Healthy Offering isn't going anywhere though, no offense. It is just too good for teammates and it provides Minor Mending also.

    Healing Ward is my burst heal when I get low since I can't use Healthy Offering on myself. I do give it to teammates though too.

    I prefer staying more defensive and providing support for my teammates (at least on this character).
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    I have never been a healer, do you think this kind of build would work on a non NB?
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  • ChefZero
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    I have never been a healer, do you think this kind of build would work on a non NB?

    which class?
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    ChefZero wrote: »
    I have never been a healer, do you think this kind of build would work on a non NB?

    which class?

    I was particularly thinking Templar and I really don't want the typical healer if I'm gonna try it
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  • brandonv516
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    Sure why not.

    Front bar:
    Reflective light/Dark flare/Flex damage
    Healing Ward
    Channeled Accel/Race Against Time
    Breath of Life/Honor the Dead
    Rapid Regen
    ULT: Resto ult

    Back bar:
    Purge
    Forward momentum
    Time freeze
    Shards/PotL/Flex spot
    Channeled focus
    ULT: Temporal guard

    Same sets, would probably work similarly but with even more healing potential.
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    The build is working really well after Wolfhunter. I'd like to tweak a few things to see if I can get that healing even higher (my highest has been 1.5m now).

    I also think with Murkmire, the new Resto staff will play out really good with this build and I'll be trading out my Maelstrom Resto staff (granted it remains how it is).
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    The build is working really well after Wolfhunter. I'd like to tweak a few things to see if I can get that healing even higher (my highest has been 1.5m now).

    I also think with Murkmire, the new Resto staff will play out really good with this build and I'll be trading out my Maelstrom Resto staff (granted it remains how it is).

    The new restro is OP AF :D

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  • HEBREWHAMMERRR
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    That’s funny I’ve been running almost this same build on my magblade for healing / support. I have a set I swap for shacklebreaker on body that works about twice as good but I’m not ready to share quite yet :) glad someone else is finding the versatility of a magblade healer as well.
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    That’s funny I’ve been running almost this same build on my magblade for healing / support. I have a set I swap for shacklebreaker on body that works about twice as good but I’m not ready to share quite yet :) glad someone else is finding the versatility of a magblade healer as well.

    Eh whatever I’m feeling nice and been running it long enough, I’m share. Try out heavy tavas on your body over shacklebreaker and see what you think. I’ve been running heavy tavas, trans/lich + willpower 2h front bar for forward momentum. Been having a blast with this build with crazy support and ulti uptime + ~30k health in cyro lol.
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    That’s funny I’ve been running almost this same build on my magblade for healing / support. I have a set I swap for shacklebreaker on body that works about twice as good but I’m not ready to share quite yet :) glad someone else is finding the versatility of a magblade healer as well.

    Eh whatever I’m feeling nice and been running it long enough, I’m share. Try out heavy tavas on your body over shacklebreaker and see what you think. I’ve been running heavy tavas, trans/lich + willpower 2h front bar for forward momentum. Been having a blast with this build with crazy support and ulti uptime + ~30k health in cyro lol.

    Nothing secret about that really. Most nb healers have considered it. For bg / no cp tavas is medicore and doesnt help with any type of offensive pressure. In cp tavas trans is nice but it hardly game changing. If you really wanted to neck beard it and drop all forms of offense, you just go frost front, with tavas and trans + blood spawn.

    I still think most of the builds here lack too much pressure for my liking.
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