Sorcs - Do you use the Active Effect of Bound Armor?

Avran_Sylt

Curious, do you use the 3s of 20% increased block mitigation?

Elwendryll

No

I guess I'll use it the day I respec as a tank...

Moloch1514

No

I miss the look it gave my vamp.

Tyrobag

Yes (Both)

Occasionally as a tank

geonsocal

Yes (Mag)

yeah, I definitely miss those glowing purple eyes - looked very cool on my very clean looking altmer...

when I can remember to time it correctly, I think it helps...

starkerealm

On my tank, sometimes. No on my Stam and Mag sorcs.

VaranisArano

Yes, stam, when I accidentally fat finger it.

Avran_Sylt

@starkerealm @geonsocal @Tyrobag

Do you use the Stamina cost or Magicka cost morph?

How would you react to the Active Block Mitigation being available to only the Magicka Morph? And the Stamina Active (Armaments) being re-purposed? (Say... to a stamina spammable?)

starkerealm

For tanking, you want the Magicka morph, because dumping stam right before blocking is a terrible idea.

Aliyavana

No

I dislike accidently pressing it and wasting stam

geonsocal

Yes (Mag)

my mag sorc is in all light, so i use bound aegis for minor ward and resolve...i'm only using hardened ward as a shield - so, I have to find ways to boost my resistances...

I do try to actually block some aoe, or direct damage when I'm thinking about it...so it helps some...

for my stam sorc, he's in all medium, and, again the minor ward and resolve help out some...I just leave it slotted for the resistance help and extra magicka (helps a little with dark deal)...

I'm also using mighty chudan on both characters...

I don't know - after reading what I just wrote - maybe best not to do what I'm doing...

new forum rule of thumb: do the exact opposite of whatever I'm doing, in order to be successful

SilverWF

No

Why?
It's totally useless for mag Sorc - that omg 20% blocked damage increase for a solid 3 seconds. Yeah, give me two!
It's slotted because of passives: +8% mana, minor Phys and Spell resists, and +20% HP and Stam recovery

Pretty sure, same story would be for any other spec, even for tanks.

@geonsocal
OP asked about active effect

DanteYoda

Yes (Mag)

On a magsorc.. at low levels yes or i die.. Later i might switch it out..

Hang on i might have the magicka morph.. Don't play sorc very often it bores me.

barshemm

Yes (Stam)

I use it in pvp if I get hit with an incap

TheUndeadAmulet

Yes (Mag)

Only because I'm a rare sorc tank, and even then it's pretty useless.

MakeMeUhSamich

No

Fairly useless.

firedrgn

Every thing is dead before I need to block.

zaria

TheUndeadAmulet wrote: »

Only because I'm a rare sorc tank, and even then it's pretty useless.

Sorc are very versatile, tank/DD or healer/DD. but no I don't want my sorc healer in vet dlc with weak tank or normal trials

Remember an vet tempest pug with 4 sorcerers, the 4 Khajiit pug was weirder, random normal, the non Khajiit goes offline and we kick and get another Khajiit. Puurrrr.

Mintaka5

No

Yet another in-game disappointment brought to you by the devs!

Why? Just to make magsorcs even more of challenge to be useless?

supaskrub

No

I don't even bother having it slotted anymore..

xiZeroPointix

No

No. Only for passive reasons. 3 sec of blocl it crap

WuffyCerulei

No

No, I only ever used it for its passives.

Morgul667

No

Only slot it for passive

Lunerdog

No

Another skill destroyed by muppet ridden tinkering

idk

I do not see what the findings of the poll would provide.

If you want to know if I like the recent changes to the skill the answer is yes. It is no longer a toggle required on both bars and required to be active.

psxfloh

No

well.. sometimes I use it by accident when a bar swap failed

Gnozo

No

I dont like the changes. I use it on my stam sorc in pvp for the passives ofc and the effect on it was really cool. And i still use it on both bars and no one has enough time to activate the skill before the incoming damage. And no one wants to burn more stam for 20% more dmg mitigation. And i also lost minor resolve.....

A change no one asked for.

Tasear

Yes (Mag)

While playing in my cheerful Sorc tank, I have found it to be quite useful. Thou it's important to watch timing. That 3 sec window is quite small. Still it's quite intriguing play style. I feel quite engaged playing it.

My healer hasn't used it but might be interesting in sày on final boss in vDSA or some other off tanking situations.


Not sure of any situations worth the costs for dps, but maybe would be nice in PvP? Haven't tried but could be interesting?

P.S looking forward to seeing what others say.

Beardimus

No

Aside from niche spec tanks its useless.

Let it empower frags, now there's an idea

DoobZ69

Yes (Stam)

Its nice for fights where you know you will be getting hit hard for some time, like the poison boss in SCP and Minotaurs in Bloodroot Forge. Other than that, where you know you will be using it, I find it very hard to use effectively. Mostly there for the stats. The beauty of the change, however, is that before I had no active and had to slot it on all 3 of my bars. Now it is only on 2 and I can slot a skill I was sorely missing before. So overall a positive change but the active itself is underwhelming. I wish it did an AOE attack, silence or taunt if a certain amount of damage blocked.... a Sorc can dream....

Avran_Sylt

@idk @DoobZ69

I'm tryin' to think of a Sorc Stam Spammable. One method was to have Bound Armaments function as one.

Still keepin' all the passive +5% Max Stam and +11% Light Attack passives for slotting it, but the Active being the player swinging a Bound Sword at the enemy dealing Physical Damage. (Summoning a sword in the midst of the animation of swinging, all spell-slinger like)

(This would mean that the Base Damage of this Spammable would need to be a tad lower than other Spammables to offset the Max Stam and Light Attack Damage Bonuses. I need to get some Good StamSorc parses using the current Meta Setups to give a good estimate on the actual Base Damage though).

My End-Game suggestion would be this:

-Place Bound Armor in the first skill to unlock in the Daedric Summoning Skilline.
-Remove the Active Effect from Bound Armor, And replace it with passive Minor Resolve/Ward
-Place the old Active Effect of Bound Armor onto Bound Aegis
-Turn Bound Armaments Active into the Sorc Stam Instant Spammable.

It shouldn't be a total upgrade apart from the passives it provides, allowing players to actually keep it slotted as a passive effect and slotting other Spammables if they so desire for different Damage Application routes.