The Event is in full swing and EP is still the underdog

ArchMikem

It's hilarious how even with an Event to draw in more players the Pact is still the one struggling to have any kind of foothold anywhere. Either in Cyrodiil or in the Imperial City. After throwing my head against Blue and Yellow zergs and not getting much anywhere, in fact losing a few Keeps, I go into the city to see if I can hitch a ride on a group that's going through all the Bosses. In the Sewers I find a group no bigger than five and saw no one else besides one level 35 random in the center that refused to join, and after going into the Yellow branch we run into a larger group of at least a dozen and wipe.

Next I go above ground and at most I saw one other to a small group of three in one of the districts that was still red. Yet I ran into blue and yellow groups far larger running rampant. Guess I'm gonna have to try and coordinate my PvP Guild into a group run in order to get my Achievements cleared.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

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ArchMikem

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

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Xbox NA.

Shor specifcally, though i think its the case in Vivec as well, since i actually left Vivec because of rampant cross faction collaborating.

Merlin13KAGL

Wait...in last released stats, didn't you guys have 2x the number of available players as either of the other Alliances?

Wouldn't that make it even out?

What exactly is the rampant collaborating about? Everyone's out for AP during this, Emp, not so much.

Apherius

the whole EP faction from Xbox is on PC EU, come and take them please !

ArchMikem

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Wait...in last released stats, didn't you guys have 2x the number of available players as either of the other Alliances?

Wouldn't that make it even out?

What exactly is the rampant collaborating about? Everyone's out for AP during this, Emp, not so much.

A lot of EP players have "buddies" that main blues or yellow, and they use that as an excuse to just stand back and watch other reds get ran over. They refuse to play objectives cause they want their friends and their groups to have their way. There are even EP who spend a few minutes on their red in chat then relog onto their blue or yellow in the same campaign to block something the reds were moving to do. And these people dont act alone they have entire guilds at their back.

And what EP mains that are left just dont care about playing the objective. If you call them out on it they will gang up and jump down your throat. Chat is always so nice like that. It really tests my decision on being a Pact main cause im one of the few that actually wants to get *** done.

In the end all this leads to a broken, disorganized faction where all we ever do is defend our home keeps and even then thats impossible at times cause the bulk of the reds that actually want to fight do so at a farm somewhere like Nikel or Bleakers.

SlippyCheeze

ArchMikem wrote: »

It's hilarious how even with an Event to draw in more players the Pact is still the one struggling to have any kind of foothold anywhere. Either in Cyrodiil or in the Imperial City. After throwing my head against Blue and Yellow zergs and not getting much anywhere, in fact losing a few Keeps, I go into the city to see if I can hitch a ride on a group that's going through all the Bosses. In the Sewers I find a group no bigger than five and saw no one else besides one level 35 random in the center that refused to join, and after going into the Yellow branch we run into a larger group of at least a dozen and wipe.

Next I go above ground and at most I saw one other to a small group of three in one of the districts that was still red. Yet I ran into blue and yellow groups far larger running rampant. Guess I'm gonna have to try and coordinate my PvP Guild into a group run in order to get my Achievements cleared.

Your problem is not the alliance or whatever, but rather, people. Many players will join whatever side seems to win the most, and the easiest, because they are not interested in a "fair fight", they are interested in winning.

So ... one side seems to lose more, people bandwagon away from it, making it lose more, making ...

RaddlemanNumber7

A new phenomenon I see happening with the Mid-Year Mayhem campaigns is campaign hopping. On PC EU it looks like a fairly large group of blues took everything on one campaign, then switched to another campaign and started taking the whole of that map too.

Merlin13KAGL

ArchMikem wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Wait...in last released stats, didn't you guys have 2x the number of available players as either of the other Alliances?

Wouldn't that make it even out?

What exactly is the rampant collaborating about? Everyone's out for AP during this, Emp, not so much.

A lot of EP players have "buddies" that main blues or yellow, and they use that as an excuse to just stand back and watch other reds get ran over. They refuse to play objectives cause they want their friends and their groups to have their way. There are even EP who spend a few minutes on their red in chat then relog onto their blue or yellow in the same campaign to block something the reds were moving to do. And these people dont act alone they have entire guilds at their back.

And what EP mains that are left just dont care about playing the objective. If you call them out on it they will gang up and jump down your throat. Chat is always so nice like that. It really tests my decision on being a Pact main cause im one of the few that actually wants to get *** done.

In the end all this leads to a broken, disorganized faction where all we ever do is defend our home keeps and even then thats impossible at times cause the bulk of the reds that actually want to fight do so at a farm somewhere like Nikel or Bleakers.

@ArchMikem, gotcha. Sadly there's some of that in each of the Alliances. There's no way to prevent it, since inside information will always be available via 3rd party software (Discord/TS, etc) and some people have no scruples, even when it comes to playing a game. I can understand why some guilds would require single faction accounts for this reason.

I'd much rather face an opponent's faction on even ground than to have something like that turn the tide in either direction.

Penalty for treason is death and/or banishment. Sad they don't implement this in some fashion.

Don't get me wrong, I totally think subterfuge should be a part of the game, ability to infiltrate the enemies ranks, sabotage, etc. I just think the method (and consequence if discovered) should be built into the games mechanics to be done 'fairly.'

In either case, best of luck, and see you on the battlefield!

RebornV3x

I was in Shor for a bit of didn't seem to bad waiting for my queue for Vivec. Last night in Vivec on Xbox NA EP got gated hard about 8 pm PST it was sad we had a good D tic going at Chalman and everyone just went full *** and in a span of 10 minutes lost BRK,Chalman,Drake,Farra, and Kings

I have to agree with OP many people on EP are not loyal to any faction that and the fact EP attracts all the Skyrim fanboys, the queue for Vivec was over 400+ from 10 am to till I got off at 8 pm limiting and or pushing away the regulars since the queue is so high that and the fact that a 1 or 2 EP guilds I won't name them especially on Vivec while are cool people to hang out with have there priorities messed up and most of them PvP regularly and you would think it was there first day playing.

Sandman929

At one point last night, EP was the only faction with 3 bars in all campaigns (including new ones) except one.

montiferus

If you want easy just go into Vicec. EP has had emp for ages and they zerg the map all over the place.

VaranisArano

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Wait...in last released stats, didn't you guys have 2x the number of available players as either of the other Alliances?

@Merlin13KAGL

If you meant the stats in the Anniversary article, those were for PC/MAC and EP had 36.33% of characters created.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26349

If there were other more recent stats, I'd love to look at them

Merlin13KAGL

@VaranisArano Nope, that's the one. I'd (mistakenly) recalled it being higher than that.