New staff bug?

Thorstienn

So I'm aware (and experienced) the bug where you HA with staff and it just loses target or something, mostly noticed on Lightning Staff.
Testing Magplar changes last night on PTS, and noticed the Fire staff "locking" into a HA (maybe med) whilst LA weaving, particularly on bar swap but also just seemingly randomly through rotation.
Was late so couldn't test on other staves (I though it was just some lag or something at first and wasted time)
I haven't noticed this on my MagDk on live, so pretty sure it's new, but could be mistaken.
Either way, could this be fixed (along with the aforementioned HA bug)?

The_Protagonist

Thorstienn wrote: »

So I'm aware (and experienced) the bug where you HA with staff and it just loses target or something, mostly noticed on Lightning Staff.
Testing Magplar changes last night on PTS, and noticed the Fire staff "locking" into a HA (maybe med) whilst LA weaving, particularly on bar swap but also just seemingly randomly through rotation.
Was late so couldn't test on other staves (I though it was just some lag or something at first and wasted time)
I haven't noticed this on my MagDk on live, so pretty sure it's new, but could be mistaken.
Either way, could this be fixed (along with the aforementioned HA bug)?

This happens once in a while on live too, as far as I remember its been there for a couple of patches.

OGLezard

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Thorstienn wrote: »

So I'm aware (and experienced) the bug where you HA with staff and it just loses target or something, mostly noticed on Lightning Staff.
Testing Magplar changes last night on PTS, and noticed the Fire staff "locking" into a HA (maybe med) whilst LA weaving, particularly on bar swap but also just seemingly randomly through rotation.
Was late so couldn't test on other staves (I though it was just some lag or something at first and wasted time)
I haven't noticed this on my MagDk on live, so pretty sure it's new, but could be mistaken.
Either way, could this be fixed (along with the aforementioned HA bug)?

This happens once in a while on live too, as far as I remember its been there for a couple of patches.

Couple of patches? try a couple of years lol this bug has been around forever and everytime they fix it it breaks two days later

baratron

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Thorstienn wrote: »

So I'm aware (and experienced) the bug where you HA with staff and it just loses target or something, mostly noticed on Lightning Staff.
Testing Magplar changes last night on PTS, and noticed the Fire staff "locking" into a HA (maybe med) whilst LA weaving, particularly on bar swap but also just seemingly randomly through rotation.
Was late so couldn't test on other staves (I though it was just some lag or something at first and wasted time)
I haven't noticed this on my MagDk on live, so pretty sure it's new, but could be mistaken.
Either way, could this be fixed (along with the aforementioned HA bug)?

This happens once in a while on live too, as far as I remember its been there for a couple of patches.

Oh, is that why I go to heavy attack and find my character just standing there like a lemon? If so, then this bug has become serious recently (maybe with Summerset, maybe even with Dragon Bones). While it may have existed before that, I definitely wasn't regular like it is now.

I've been blaming lag and/or changes since Summerset, but it really is very annoying when you're doing a heavy attack to restore Magicka as part of a rotation and it's essential that the heavy attack goes through so that you can continue the rotation, and it simply doesn't happen.

IZZEFlameLash

Staff has been like this since forever. But ZOS only fixes some minor graphic issues. So, don't hold your hopes up. NB weaving with Strife also was fixed after years and years of complaints. But it probably was because it was their dearly favorite NB.

Tasear

I will pass issue along though do you have video or more information about the issue?

Thorstienn

Tasear wrote: »

I will pass issue along though do you have video or more information about the issue?

Unfortunately I do not have video.
The "new" issue:
Whilst performing a standard LA rotation, the LA will on occasion not perform a LA but instead perform a HA.

"Recurring/old" issue:
With a target, whilst performing a HA, the character will execute the animation however not fire/miss the damage/resource return of the actual HA. This is most easily notice with Shock and Restoration staves as the "beam" and damage ticks are clearly not visible.

Tasear

Thorstienn wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

I will pass issue along though do you have video or more information about the issue?

Unfortunately I do not have video.
The "new" issue:
Whilst performing a standard LA rotation, the LA will on occasion not perform a LA but instead perform a HA.

"Recurring/old" issue:
With a target, whilst performing a HA, the character will execute the animation however not fire/miss the damage/resource return of the actual HA. This is most easily notice with Shock and Restoration staves as the "beam" and damage ticks are clearly not visible.

Understood will come back later if more questions arise, but issue is reported.

MLGProPlayer

OGLezard wrote: »

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Thorstienn wrote: »

So I'm aware (and experienced) the bug where you HA with staff and it just loses target or something, mostly noticed on Lightning Staff.
Testing Magplar changes last night on PTS, and noticed the Fire staff "locking" into a HA (maybe med) whilst LA weaving, particularly on bar swap but also just seemingly randomly through rotation.
Was late so couldn't test on other staves (I though it was just some lag or something at first and wasted time)
I haven't noticed this on my MagDk on live, so pretty sure it's new, but could be mistaken.
Either way, could this be fixed (along with the aforementioned HA bug)?

This happens once in a while on live too, as far as I remember its been there for a couple of patches.

Couple of patches? try a couple of years lol this bug has been around forever and everytime they fix it it breaks two days later

I think it's lag related (as in server lag).

Tasear

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Thorstienn wrote: »

So I'm aware (and experienced) the bug where you HA with staff and it just loses target or something, mostly noticed on Lightning Staff.
Testing Magplar changes last night on PTS, and noticed the Fire staff "locking" into a HA (maybe med) whilst LA weaving, particularly on bar swap but also just seemingly randomly through rotation.
Was late so couldn't test on other staves (I though it was just some lag or something at first and wasted time)
I haven't noticed this on my MagDk on live, so pretty sure it's new, but could be mistaken.
Either way, could this be fixed (along with the aforementioned HA bug)?

This happens once in a while on live too, as far as I remember its been there for a couple of patches.

When do you notice the issue?

Altyrann

I've seen this a fair bit on live as well. Every once in a while my character simply decides of its own accord to start heavy attacking. I have seen it happen with both lightning and inferno staves but can't see any consistent trigger conditions.

Mr_Wolfe

I've been noticing this a lot on xbox since Summerset came out. It's not just staves either, it's happened to me with overload and werewolf form too.

It's particularly bad with werewolf, because you get stuck halfway through the heavy attack animation with your arms out to the side and can't light or heavy attack at all until you pounce or dodgeroll.

Mystrius_Archaion

Same issue, new thread.
There are several threads about this starting with mine with the most consolidated and descriptive information about thew current bug that started with PTS 4.0.0

Here is the post: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/415887/heavy-attacks-with-restoration-lightning-staves-still-have-issues-firing