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Account-wide achis

SkullProX
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https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/5367158/bringing-achievements-to-the-account-level This sums up my suggestion well.
Note: skyhards, and lorebooks and such wouldnt be account wide, you get the achievement for the whole account, but you would still have to collect them on each character separetely.
Personally I see no reason for titles to be character bound either, but if majority wants then, then idc. Achievement points should be account wide however.
  • Jailbirdy
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    SkullProX wrote: »
    https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/5367158/bringing-achievements-to-the-account-level This sums up my suggestion well.
    Note: skyhards, and lorebooks and such wouldnt be account wide, you get the achievement for the whole account, but you would still have to collect them on each character separetely.
    Personally I see no reason for titles to be character bound either, but if majority wants then, then idc. Achievement points should be account wide however.

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  • icedcoffee
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    Loved the change in WoW when it happened, and I would love it if it happened in ESO as well.
    Edited by icedcoffee on July 9, 2018 7:55PM
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  • Cpt_Teemo
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    All consumeables should be account wide
  • Davor
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    I would like my horsies be account bound as well. After all if all our characters can have Championship Points on a new character why can't they have the same horse abilities as well?
    Not my quote but I love this saying

    "I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion"
  • Terfin
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    It would be nice, but I think the Dev team have lots of other things they're working on, so I doubt we'll ever see it.
  • Arcon2825
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    icedcoffee wrote: »
    Loved the change in WoW when it happened, and I would love it if it happened in ESO as well.

    ^^ This!
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  • Davor
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    Terfin wrote: »
    It would be nice, but I think the Dev team have lots of other things they're working on, so I doubt we'll ever see it.

    Ahh you mean the crown store. :P
    Not my quote but I love this saying

    "I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion"
  • jedtb16_ESO
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    SkullProX wrote: »
    https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/5367158/bringing-achievements-to-the-account-level This sums up my suggestion well.
    Note: skyhards, and lorebooks and such wouldnt be account wide, you get the achievement for the whole account, but you would still have to collect them on each character separetely.
    Personally I see no reason for titles to be character bound either, but if majority wants then, then idc. Achievement points should be account wide however.

    no... this isn't wow, thankfully.
  • Tandor
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    No thanks. What next for sharing, xp and levels?
    Davor wrote: »
    I would like my horsies be account bound as well. After all if all our characters can have Championship Points on a new character why can't they have the same horse abilities as well?

    Or the quest history and levels?
  • Edziu
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    Jailbirdy wrote: »
    SkullProX wrote: »
    https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/5367158/bringing-achievements-to-the-account-level This sums up my suggestion well.
    Note: skyhards, and lorebooks and such wouldnt be account wide, you get the achievement for the whole account, but you would still have to collect them on each character separetely.
    Personally I see no reason for titles to be character bound either, but if majority wants then, then idc. Achievement points should be account wide however.

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  • jedtb16_ESO
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    Edziu wrote: »
    Jailbirdy wrote: »
    SkullProX wrote: »
    https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/5367158/bringing-achievements-to-the-account-level This sums up my suggestion well.
    Note: skyhards, and lorebooks and such wouldnt be account wide, you get the achievement for the whole account, but you would still have to collect them on each character separetely.
    Personally I see no reason for titles to be character bound either, but if majority wants then, then idc. Achievement points should be account wide however.

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  • Shantu
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    Davor wrote: »
    I would like my horsies be account bound as well. After all if all our characters can have Championship Points on a new character why can't they have the same horse abilities as well?

    Because then impatient suckers like me wouldn't buy crowns to speed up their Valium-injected mounts.
  • Komma
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    Would be a win for zos imo. People wouldnt be tied down to one achievement character and would play alts more and would probably buy things like character slots and mount upgrades from the craft store. Im all for account wide achievements.
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  • pizzaow
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    Titles: Character Based
    Achievements: Account Based

    Who cares if I got "Shadowplay" on one character and "Venomous Evasion" on another? It would be nice to see if I've completed each achievement, from any character.
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  • SkullProX
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    Komma wrote: »
    Would be a win for zos imo. People wouldnt be tied down to one achievement character and would play alts more and would probably buy things like character slots and mount upgrades from the craft store. Im all for account wide achievements.

    Exactly. Win for everyone
  • SkullProX
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    pizzaow wrote: »
    Titles: Character Based
    Achievements: Account Based

    Who cares if I got "Shadowplay" on one character and "Venomous Evasion" on another? It would be nice to see if I've completed each achievement, from any character.

    Personally I'd like titles to be acc based too, but I'm fine if they are not, and only achievements are.
  • newtinmpls
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    SkullProX wrote: »
    Achievement points should be account wide however.

    I disagree.

    Chess, yes all your "pieces" or "characters" are on a side.

    In an MMORPG, no.
    Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
    Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
    Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
    Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.
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    Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
    House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
    Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis
  • Tandor
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    Komma wrote: »
    Would be a win for zos imo. People wouldnt be tied down to one achievement character and would play alts more and would probably buy things like character slots and mount upgrades from the craft store. Im all for account wide achievements.

    Lots of players already buy character slots in order to play those characters fully, including getting achievements on them without which those players would have less incentive to run multiple characters.

    Whenever this comes up there's s a split between those who play a main plus alts, and for whom account-wide achievements are preferred, and those who play multiple characters who are all equal and individual, and for whom character-specific achievements are preferred. ZOS strikes a good balance between these two approaches by having some things like champion points, collections and dye unlocks account-wide and other things like most achievements character-specific.

    I've nothing against a separate achievement display accessed from the character selection screen showing all the achievements across the account and which character first earned them, and there could be additional achievements recognising when they have been completed across the account, but with all characters still having to complete an achievement in order to benefit from its reward.
  • Weper
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    Terfin wrote: »
    It would be nice, but I think the Dev team have lots of other things they're working on
    Yeah, on the crown store. lol
    newtinmpls wrote: »
    In an MMORPG, no.
    Why not?

    But yeah, i would like account-wide achievements too. I have two "main" characters (one for PvE and one for PvP) and it's shame that i can't have all my achievements on both characters.
    And actually there is no reason to collect achievements, until they are account-wide.

    Edited by Weper on July 15, 2018 9:17PM
  • Acrolas
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    OP didn't need to bump his own thread.

    Also, quoted the article is a work-in-progress from 2012 and a lot of what Blizzard was aiming to change is already being done by ZOS. Blizzard's main point was you could pool points from other characters but not earn the points more than once on an account. So the plan at that time was a global number with rewards unlocked for characters based on level and faction appropriateness.

    But as achievement points are not a currency, it really doesn't matter whether the points are global or local. I'd rather ZOS scrub the numbers completely and just leave the objectives. Then nobody can misconstrue their score as some sort of status symbol.
    signing off
  • Sylvermynx
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    I didn't worry much about it in WoW, and I don't really care about it here. Achievements are.... sort of not my thing - I gave up gold stars for stuff a very long time back - like when I got out of first grade I guess. Fun is my thing.... If Achievements occur, fine, but half the time I haven't a clue. Now, skyshards I care about, but as far as achieves for them, only so I can track them in the Achieve pane....
  • AlnilamE
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    Tandor wrote: »
    Komma wrote: »
    Would be a win for zos imo. People wouldnt be tied down to one achievement character and would play alts more and would probably buy things like character slots and mount upgrades from the craft store. Im all for account wide achievements.

    Lots of players already buy character slots in order to play those characters fully, including getting achievements on them without which those players would have less incentive to run multiple characters.

    Whenever this comes up there's s a split between those who play a main plus alts, and for whom account-wide achievements are preferred, and those who play multiple characters who are all equal and individual, and for whom character-specific achievements are preferred. ZOS strikes a good balance between these two approaches by having some things like champion points, collections and dye unlocks account-wide and other things like most achievements character-specific.

    I've nothing against a separate achievement display accessed from the character selection screen showing all the achievements across the account and which character first earned them, and there could be additional achievements recognising when they have been completed across the account, but with all characters still having to complete an achievement in order to benefit from its reward.

    Pretty much this. I do have a "Main" but once she got an achievement I start working on it on alts.
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  • DanteYoda
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    Yes but add skyshards and lore books this carrot on a stick bs gets old fast.
  • idrankyourbeer
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    Jailbirdy wrote: »
    SkullProX wrote: »
    https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/5367158/bringing-achievements-to-the-account-level This sums up my suggestion well.
    Note: skyhards, and lorebooks and such wouldnt be account wide, you get the achievement for the whole account, but you would still have to collect them on each character separetely.
    Personally I see no reason for titles to be character bound either, but if majority wants then, then idc. Achievement points should be account wide however.

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    my thoughts exactly. its fun getting all those crafting and motif achievements amongst all my 11 characters.
  • TheShadowScout
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    Tandor wrote: »
    Whenever this comes up there's s a split between those who play a main plus alts, and for whom account-wide achievements are preferred, and those who play multiple characters who are all equal and individual, and for whom character-specific achievements are preferred. ZOS strikes a good balance between these two approaches by having some things like champion points, collections and dye unlocks account-wide and other things like most achievements character-specific.

    I've nothing against a separate achievement display accessed from the character selection screen showing all the achievements across the account and which character first earned them, and there could be additional achievements recognising when they have been completed across the account, but with all characters still having to complete an achievement in order to benefit from its reward.
    Pretty much this.

    I mean, I -do- play a couple "main" characters I RP with when the occasion arises, and a couple "alts" I care less about and just made to try out something... and I would benefit from more accout wide stuff... but I dislike the idea and consider the current balance between accout-shared and character-specific stuff in ESO to be "just right".

    Not to mention, I use the achievements to check on my character progress, see which skyshard or exploration location I may have missed on this or that character, which crafting style I have learned and yet to learn or which miniboss I forgot to hunt down in a public dungeon... that sort of thing.

    And its not like achievements -do- anything except unlock dyes and titles, the former are already account wide, and the latter really should not be.
    ...if you really want it on an alt, spend the extra effort, just like you gotta spend the extra effort if you want to reach level 50, or some guild line, or your skills maxed, or your riding trained up, or whatever.
    ...and if you don't want to bother spending the effort, well, that that alt will have to do without this particular achievement/title.

    And so in my opinion, the only thing missing is an "account overview" page, where people can see which achievement was achievend by which of their characters when, and so on... maybe with some extra goodies for multiple completions, like "finish mainstory with each class" or "get emperor in each alliance" or "reach level 50 with every race" and stuff like that...

    ...

    Also everyone should remember that ESO is crown store powered now.
    Meaning...
    IF they would ever add some "convenience items" to help with any of this... it will come like the riding lessons, or research scrolls, or crownstore motivs. Does it still sound like a good idea to those "gimme crowd" people when they consider paying through the nose for it?
  • zaria
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    Tandor wrote: »
    Komma wrote: »
    Would be a win for zos imo. People wouldnt be tied down to one achievement character and would play alts more and would probably buy things like character slots and mount upgrades from the craft store. Im all for account wide achievements.

    Lots of players already buy character slots in order to play those characters fully, including getting achievements on them without which those players would have less incentive to run multiple characters.

    Whenever this comes up there's s a split between those who play a main plus alts, and for whom account-wide achievements are preferred, and those who play multiple characters who are all equal and individual, and for whom character-specific achievements are preferred. ZOS strikes a good balance between these two approaches by having some things like champion points, collections and dye unlocks account-wide and other things like most achievements character-specific.

    I've nothing against a separate achievement display accessed from the character selection screen showing all the achievements across the account and which character first earned them, and there could be additional achievements recognising when they have been completed across the account, but with all characters still having to complete an achievement in order to benefit from its reward.
    Yes, one issue with shared achievements would be that it would be hard to see who characters missing stuff like dungeons.

    Now an overview who merges all would be nice especially as game grows and the trend of new starts for each chapter.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Slick_007
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    SkullProX wrote: »
    Komma wrote: »
    Would be a win for zos imo. People wouldnt be tied down to one achievement character and would play alts more and would probably buy things like character slots and mount upgrades from the craft store. Im all for account wide achievements.

    Exactly. Win for everyone

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  • Sovjet
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    Yes please, achievements account wide!
    For every player that quits, more will join in my name - Molag Bal 2E 583
  • Narvuntien
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    I have my crafts across two different characters which means I have my motifs across two different characters which means that I can basically never get the motif achievements.
  • Skillasaurus88
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    I'll admit it would be nice, but... if your going to have multiple playthroughs/characters, you should be prepared to do the same achievements over again. Wouldnt Skyrim be weird if it had a new game +?
    I main a MagSorc DPS. Over 2500 hours played and counting! Feel free to ask me anything. -Rick
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