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Would You like ZO$ to upgrade and add more servers?

Jameliel
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Would You like ZO$ to upgrade and add more servers? 246 votes

Yes
84%
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No
15%
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  • Jameliel
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    Yes
    Sick of the disconnects, especially in Cyrodiil.
  • Kalante
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    No
    That's like believing in the tooth fairy
  • Jameliel
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    Yes
    So why would you not want more and better servers? Seems ridiculous to me with all the problems most people are experiencing.
  • Morgul667
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    Yes
    Performance is the key issue of this game
  • ezio45
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    Yes
    yes but just the preformance
  • abigfishy
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    Yes
    I voted yes but it is more likely that the Tooth Fairy is real.
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  • Blobsky
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    Yes
    Not going to happen though
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  • Ashtaris
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    I didn’t vote because for one thing, how do you know the performance issues are with the server? It could be on the client side in which case adding more or updating the servers wouldn’t really solve the issue.
  • idk
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    No
    The question/entertainment poll is asked as though it is a fix. If it sounded logical, yes, but there is no logic being presented.
  • Turelus
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    As I've said in all the thread about upgrading servers or adding servers whilst it might have some benefits, it's not going to fix the issues on too many server calls caused by bad skill programming.

    I've played an MMO which used the most cutting edge servers which were located in the same country as me and it still pooped itself during mass battles simply because the code/server calls bottleneck.

    "Upgrade the servers" and "add more servers" are buzz phrases yelled by people who rarely have invested the time to learn what the actually issued causing the lag are.

    Now as I said in the opening it might add some benefits (we don't know much about their hardware outside what the beta folks learnt) but it's not going to entirely fix the issues you want fixed.
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  • fastolfv_ESO
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    talk to anyone who understand how the game was put together and they will tell you its not the amount of servers or server hardware, its the engine the game was build upon. To put it bluntly it cannot handle added dlcs extra calculations anti bot software and any sort of graphical upgrades, but to fix the problem would require a massive investment in funds to rebuild the entire thing from bottom up so instead we have been sitting on auto pilot with nothing being done for a good 3 years while people throw money at them hand and fist for cosmetic garbage and dlcs that just rock an unstable engine even more
  • idk
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    No
    Turelus wrote: »
    As I've said in all the thread about upgrading servers or adding servers whilst it might have some benefits, it's not going to fix the issues on too many server calls caused by bad skill programming.

    I've played an MMO which used the most cutting edge servers which were located in the same country as me and it still pooped itself during mass battles simply because the code/server calls bottleneck.

    "Upgrade the servers" and "add more servers" are buzz phrases yelled by people who rarely have invested the time to learn what the actually issued causing the lag are.

    Now as I said in the opening it might add some benefits (we don't know much about their hardware outside what the beta folks learnt) but it's not going to entirely fix the issues you want fixed.

    This spells out exactly what I was speaking to. Those that have worked with networking and servers understand OP does not have a grasp of the issues in this game.
  • Tandor
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    No
    It would be pointless in the absence of a clear causal relationship between the issues some players are experiencing and the present server configuration. I'm happy to trust that decision to the team running the servers rather than some random players on a forum.
  • Banana
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    Yes
    But money goes in, not out :|
    Edited by Banana on June 30, 2018 8:52AM
  • DanteYoda
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    Yes
    Yes Oceanic...
  • Coggo
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    Yes
    If by "upgrade the servers" you meant "fix the lag in Cyrodiil" then I give you a "heck yeah!"
  • Saturnana
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    This is like saying you need a new house, when all that's wrong with the old one is the terribly out-of-date decorating.
    You don't know if server hardware is even the problem. It's much more likely an issue with the code those servers are running.
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  • OGLezard
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    Yes
    talk to anyone who understand how the game was put together and they will tell you its not the amount of servers or server hardware, its the engine the game was build upon. To put it bluntly it cannot handle added dlcs extra calculations anti bot software and any sort of graphical upgrades, but to fix the problem would require a massive investment in funds to rebuild the entire thing from bottom up so instead we have been sitting on auto pilot with nothing being done for a good 3 years while people throw money at them hand and fist for cosmetic garbage and dlcs that just rock an unstable engine even more

    I said yes just because :)

    To comment on the quoted text; so you mean a ff14 type of event.

    Square was determined for it to be rebuilt. They even let everyone play for free until they were done rebuilding the game.

    I remember the last day before a realm reborn launched, they hosted an amazing ingame apocalypse event. When the apocalypse took place, the servers went down so they could bring a realm reborn online.

    Was amazing! Square even tied it into the games lore and made it part of the history that they talk about in a realm reborn.

    For anyone interested, here is a timeline of events

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/61230-An-Eorzean-Timeline.

    With all that being said, not a huge fan of ff14 now days. I fell so far behind because of eso lol

    I just think maybe zenimax could learn something from square. Fans were not impressed with 14 and bashed it hard and it eventually died quick. Square determine to make it a success did what they did and found an amazing way to do so!

    Now it is thriving beyond belief.

    Zenimax could do that and then some, just saying.
  • WilhelmTheSlayer
    Yes
    Turelus wrote: »
    As I've said in all the thread about upgrading servers or adding servers whilst it might have some benefits, it's not going to fix the issues on too many server calls caused by bad skill programming.

    I've played an MMO which used the most cutting edge servers which were located in the same country as me and it still pooped itself during mass battles simply because the code/server calls bottleneck.

    "Upgrade the servers" and "add more servers" are buzz phrases yelled by people who rarely have invested the time to learn what the actually issued causing the lag are.

    Now as I said in the opening it might add some benefits (we don't know much about their hardware outside what the beta folks learnt) but it's not going to entirely fix the issues you want fixed.

    Which MMO?
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  • Chrysa1is
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    No
    I feel like it could make the game more empty
  • rootimus
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    I'd rather they hired talented programmers to get the most out of the resources they have, first. If they're needed, add resources later.
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  • shadowwraith666
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    Yes
    yes, engine and graphical optimizations are also needed, since the assets are loaded clientside from the hard drive
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  • Edziu
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    more servers like NA and EU separate?
    I dont think as everything which you atlest get from crwon store isnnt account wide through servers and many people will complain more about they stupid crown store as they boght something before and now on new server they need to pay agin for same things
  • Zorgon_The_Revenged
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    OGLezard wrote: »
    talk to anyone who understand how the game was put together and they will tell you its not the amount of servers or server hardware, its the engine the game was build upon. To put it bluntly it cannot handle added dlcs extra calculations anti bot software and any sort of graphical upgrades, but to fix the problem would require a massive investment in funds to rebuild the entire thing from bottom up so instead we have been sitting on auto pilot with nothing being done for a good 3 years while people throw money at them hand and fist for cosmetic garbage and dlcs that just rock an unstable engine even more

    I said yes just because :)

    To comment on the quoted text; so you mean a ff14 type of event.

    Square was determined for it to be rebuilt. They even let everyone play for free until they were done rebuilding the game.

    I remember the last day before a realm reborn launched, they hosted an amazing ingame apocalypse event. When the apocalypse took place, the servers went down so they could bring a realm reborn online.

    Was amazing! Square even tied it into the games lore and made it part of the history that they talk about in a realm reborn.

    For anyone interested, here is a timeline of events

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/61230-An-Eorzean-Timeline.

    With all that being said, not a huge fan of ff14 now days. I fell so far behind because of eso lol

    I just think maybe zenimax could learn something from square. Fans were not impressed with 14 and bashed it hard and it eventually died quick. Square determine to make it a success did what they did and found an amazing way to do so!

    Now it is thriving beyond belief.

    Zenimax could do that and then some, just saying.

    ESO was never as bad as the original FFXIV (for anyone other than a hardcore MMO/FF fan).

    ESO doesn't have cut scenes, something Square have been blowing my mind with for many years. And ESO's "final patch" would, no doubt, be so riddled with bugs and there would be so many players wanting to log in to see the event that they would have to take the game down before we all saw the end. :s
  • Asmael
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    No
    Hardware is very rarely the actual cause of performance issues.
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  • Doctordarkspawn
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    Yes
    Turelus wrote: »
    As I've said in all the thread about upgrading servers or adding servers whilst it might have some benefits, it's not going to fix the issues on too many server calls caused by bad skill programming.

    I've played an MMO which used the most cutting edge servers which were located in the same country as me and it still pooped itself during mass battles simply because the code/server calls bottleneck.

    "Upgrade the servers" and "add more servers" are buzz phrases yelled by people who rarely have invested the time to learn what the actually issued causing the lag are.

    Now as I said in the opening it might add some benefits (we don't know much about their hardware outside what the beta folks learnt) but it's not going to entirely fix the issues you want fixed.

    It seemed to get exponentially worse with the multi-core update, because I'd wager that the skill calls are only half the problem. It's likely the computers being able to compute the game faster then the server can keep up and it's creating the bottleneck.

    Multiply it by the playerbase, and that's what we have now. That's all speculation, but if that is part of the problem, adding more servers to lesssen that bottleneck might actually help.
    Edited by Doctordarkspawn on June 30, 2018 11:14AM
  • Ragebull
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    Yes
    Seems more likely that they'll just keep everything the way it is, keep making as much money as possible until the game fades off and then move on to the next one. Doesn't really make much sense to put more money into the game now, unless you genuinely care about the quality of your game, your reputation and customer satisfaction.
  • Vietfox
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    Yes
    Upgrade, yeah. Add more servers, no. More servers means there would be 1 server for each alliance and bars would look like this 1 - 1 - 3/locked
  • Elsonso
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    I am assuming that "server == Alliance War Campaign" ?

    They need to fix their software, not upgrade stuff. Their server software can't be both fast and secure. They fixed that, though. Now it is neither! :neutral:

    Should they break out more Campaigns? They have done that in the past. I think they should, but they tend to be resistant to such things.
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  • Sleep
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    upgrade yes
    add no
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