Should I craft Sloads?

ChunkyCat

lionofjudah7 wrote: »

No one cares what you craft . You still gonna get zerged down n teabagged

I lol’ed louder than I should have.

Tan9oSuccka

Craft it.

I made a purple set. Not all that impressed other than use on salty cloak abusers and shield sorcs.

DanteYoda

Don't make it.. as it'll be nerfed soon.

Pointless waste of materials.

ak_pvp

If you do, I won't be mad. Just disappointed.

WhitePawPrints

Looks like NOT crafting it was the right choice.

BozzyTheDrummer

I am not the best at PvP. My MagDk is my main PvP toon. Right after Summerset, i had a friend craft a full set of Sloads armor for me, because I heard the this new set was good for PvP. I had mixed armor on my toon, so any set was better than what I had, but again, I decided on Sloads because I heard it was good for PvP.

So I had it crafted, put it on to go with my Valkyn Skoria set. I re-specced my skills to be more PvP oriented, and I started doing a lot more BG's and Cyrodiil. As I said before, I am not the best at PvP in this game, but I am learning. On average, in BG or any significant time in Cyrodiil, I get about 2-4 kills. I started practicing my rotation more on test dummies to get used to what I want to do.

After having Sloads equipped, I noticed in BG's on average, I am getting about 3-5 kills each match. One match, I was able to get 13 kills (the most I have ever gotten in this game) but it hasn't happened again since. In Cyrodiil, I haven't noticed much of a change. I cycle through my rotation of skills better now, and that helps. I honestly don't know when the effect of Sloads activates or not, I haven't paid attention to see if anything shows or not when It happens (the leeching shadow).

I would say craft it if you want. I have been tea bagged once, so I assume that was because of Sloads. I didn't have this set crafted for me because I thought it would make be better at PvP, but I thought it would make playing PvP somewhat easier, as far as holding my own against other players.

What I would say, after playing with this set, is don't expect it to make you a PvP god. Even though the set is apparently broken and OP, if you suck at PvP, you will still suck with this set equipped. It may help you get some extra kills but don't expect this set to completely change your playing skills.

If you want it, craft it, if you don't, then don't craft it, up to you.

D0PAMINE

generalmyrick wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

Lol vast majority. You'd like that if you just read the forums, but when you actually play the game you realize that hardly anyone uses it. Oh and it's on the weaker side when it comes to proc sets.

Can you point to any 5th piece trait of passive proc damage that’s stronger? I can’t. And as I’ve mentioned the fact that it procs on any and all damage (some reporting it procs itself which is why it ticks for 7 ticks sometimes) makes it much more viable than sets like overwhelming surge which is a popular comparison. And when you account for mitigation overwhelming surge is probably weaker in damage as well.

better, ha!

let me just access the ol' spreadhsheet...
*sips drank*

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5th set Bonus better than Sloads
affliction
almalexia
archmage
ash grip
beck steel
bloodthorn
chokethorn
combat phys
def warrior
defiler
des rose
dest mastery
drag heritage
dreamer's
eternal hunt
grothdarr
harbinger
hatch shell
healing mage
hist
ice furnace
iceheart
imperium
inf guardian
infall mage
juggernaut
kra'gh
kvatch
lamia's song
leeching
lich
llambris
lord warden
magicka furn
magnus
mazzatun
mephala
morkuldin
nerien'eth
night mother
night terror
nightflame
phoenix
prayershawl
pris rags
red mountain
redistributor
rkugamz
seducer
selene
sellistrix
shalidor
sheer venom
spawn of mephala
storm night
stormfist
thunderbug
torug
tremorscale
troll king
undaunted unw
valkyn skoria
vamp kiss
varren's leg
velidreth
viper sting
viscous death
warlock
way of fire
whitestrake
widowmaker
winterborn
withered hand
wormcult

You have monster sets in there which are not 5 piece sets.

Peekachu99

They don’t seem to be nerfing it to any noticeable degree, so yeah, go ahead. Maybe wait to gold it out till the last PTS patch, but the past three patches have been pretty sparse on meaningful updates.

Gorilla

Only 2 things require change.

Incap, and they are moving out the cost so good.

Rune + Sorc damage.

Sload's is nothing compared to the above.


What does 800 per second mean when I can burst you for 25k+ on a frag alone? Of course you have to run around bouncing and pushing your shield button to timer but that's where the dps is.

Morgul667

generalmyrick wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

Lol vast majority. You'd like that if you just read the forums, but when you actually play the game you realize that hardly anyone uses it. Oh and it's on the weaker side when it comes to proc sets.

Can you point to any 5th piece trait of passive proc damage that’s stronger? I can’t. And as I’ve mentioned the fact that it procs on any and all damage (some reporting it procs itself which is why it ticks for 7 ticks sometimes) makes it much more viable than sets like overwhelming surge which is a popular comparison. And when you account for mitigation overwhelming surge is probably weaker in damage as well.

better, ha!

let me just access the ol' spreadhsheet...
*sips drank*

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5th set Bonus better than Sloads
affliction
almalexia
archmage
ash grip
beck steel
bloodthorn
chokethorn
combat phys
def warrior
defiler
des rose
dest mastery
drag heritage
dreamer's
eternal hunt
grothdarr
harbinger
hatch shell
healing mage
hist
ice furnace
iceheart
imperium
inf guardian
infall mage
juggernaut
kra'gh
kvatch
lamia's song
leeching
lich
llambris
lord warden
magicka furn
magnus
mazzatun
mephala
morkuldin
nerien'eth
night mother
night terror
nightflame
phoenix
prayershawl
pris rags
red mountain
redistributor
rkugamz
seducer
selene
sellistrix
shalidor
sheer venom
spawn of mephala
storm night
stormfist
thunderbug
torug
tremorscale
troll king
undaunted unw
valkyn skoria
vamp kiss
varren's leg
velidreth
viper sting
viscous death
warlock
way of fire
whitestrake
widowmaker
winterborn
withered hand
wormcult

We have different definition of. Etter

Maryal

Sloads is not OP, never was. It's a decent pve set and a decent pvp set.

If, for example, a skill, armor proc, or whatever needs to be applied to an individual by several others simultaneously for it to be 'deadly' ... then the 'skill, armor proc, or whatever' is definitely NOT 'OP.' Now, there may be a broken mechanic involved that allows the players to simultaneously stack a particular type of damage on a selected individual, but that is an entirely different matter and, frankly, most people fail or refuse to make the distinction between the two.

What people refer to as being 'OP' today relies on the existing meta. You change the meta and what people call 'OP' today many not be called 'OP' tomorrow. And yet, when something like this happens, for whatever reason some people will still tout (whatever) as being 'OP' and in need of an array of 'suggested nerfs.' Seems that some people just can't get off the 'OP' bandwagon.


There seems to be a growing number of people calling something 'OP' because (whatever) is effective against their current build. They could mitigate the problem if they changed their build, learned new skills, etc., but they don't want to. Too many people simply don't want to leave the comfort zone of their existing builds ( and prefer to see whatever they deem as 'OP' against them get nerfed). This has lead to so much over-usage and hyperbole when it comes to the term 'OP" that the term has lost much of it's original meaning. It's gotten to the point where many of us now see the term 'OP' in the forums and wonder "who's whining about what now?"

BRogueNZ

I can recommend curse-eating, lots of hots and Troll King if it fits.
If you get a hate tell from a sload user for wearing Troll King or Lingering health pots personally I think you're doing it right. Of course their there is usually more than the one wearing it in the train that rolls in and being solo, anyone with enough cc and burst is going to kill you (me) anyway regardless of Sload's, not saying the subjective 'good' solo players don't wear it as well.

Mayrael

Daus wrote: »

Anastian wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

Lol vast majority. You'd like that if you just read the forums, but when you actually play the game you realize that hardly anyone uses it. Oh and it's on the weaker side when it comes to proc sets.

You are really running against a large portion of the community, commenting in any sload thread that it's not that performing :P

I don't believe something simply because it's the opinion held by the majority. All of us have a brain and are capable of using it. Most rather appeal to the consensus of the majority though.

Exactly. Because thousands of fly's sits on cow poop that doesn't mean it's tasty

Thannazzar

I have and keep a crafted set. But I only use it when I encounter a shield stacking Sorc.

webrgesner

If you are desperate enough to TRY to get a kill the easiest way or zerg then go for it. Just letting you know ive killed people on my stamplar wearing sloads in a 1v2. If you want to get good i prefer just going for better set pieces because sloads isnt that good

visionality

Daus wrote: »

Lol vast majority. You'd like that if you just read the forums, but when you actually play the game you realize that hardly anyone uses it. Oh and it's on the weaker side when it comes to proc sets.

Have to agree. When it comes to PVP in Cyro (BGs are a different story), the only players I see running around with Sloads are the tryhards that dream of becoming good PVPers without acquiring any actual skill. Doesnt work, though. They still die like the tryhards they are.

BuddyAces

D0PAMINE wrote: »

generalmyrick wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

Lol vast majority. You'd like that if you just read the forums, but when you actually play the game you realize that hardly anyone uses it. Oh and it's on the weaker side when it comes to proc sets.

Can you point to any 5th piece trait of passive proc damage that’s stronger? I can’t. And as I’ve mentioned the fact that it procs on any and all damage (some reporting it procs itself which is why it ticks for 7 ticks sometimes) makes it much more viable than sets like overwhelming surge which is a popular comparison. And when you account for mitigation overwhelming surge is probably weaker in damage as well.

better, ha!

let me just access the ol' spreadhsheet...
*sips drank*

---

5th set Bonus better than Sloads
affliction
almalexia
archmage
ash grip
beck steel
bloodthorn
chokethorn
combat phys
def warrior
defiler
des rose
dest mastery
drag heritage
dreamer's
eternal hunt
grothdarr
harbinger
hatch shell
healing mage
hist
ice furnace
iceheart
imperium
inf guardian
infall mage
juggernaut
kra'gh
kvatch
lamia's song
leeching
lich
llambris
lord warden
magicka furn
magnus
mazzatun
mephala
morkuldin
nerien'eth
night mother
night terror
nightflame
phoenix
prayershawl
pris rags
red mountain
redistributor
rkugamz
seducer
selene
sellistrix
shalidor
sheer venom
spawn of mephala
storm night
stormfist
thunderbug
torug
tremorscale
troll king
undaunted unw
valkyn skoria
vamp kiss
varren's leg
velidreth
viper sting
viscous death
warlock
way of fire
whitestrake
widowmaker
winterborn
withered hand
wormcult

You have monster sets in there which are not 5 piece sets.

You read all of that?! Not sure if I should give you an awesome or an insightful.....

Inarre

generalmyrick wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

Can you point to any 5th piece trait of passive proc damage that’s stronger?

5th set Bonus better than Sloads

affliction
almalexia - not a proc, not damage
arch mage - not damage
ash grip
beck steel - not damage
bloodthorn - not damage
choke thorn - not a five piece, not damage
combat phys - not damage, is utter garbage
def warrior
defiler
des rose - not damage
dest mastery - not a proc set
drag heritage - not damage
dreamer's - not damage
eternal hunt
grothdar - not a 5 piece
harbinger
hatch shell - not a proc set, not damage
healing mage - not damage, not a proc
hist - not damage
ice furnace
ice heart - not a five piece
imperium - not damage
inf guardian - not a five piece
infall mage - not a proc set
juggernaut - not damage
kra'gh - not a five piece
kvatch - not a proc set
lamia's song - not damage
leeching
lich - not damage
llambris - not a five piece
lord warden - not a five piece, not damage
magicka fun - not damage
Magnus - not damage
mazzatun - not damage
mephala - not a five piece
morkuldin
nerien'eth - not a five piece
night mother - not a proc set, not damage
night terror - not a proc set
nightflame - not a five piece, not damage
Phoenix
prayershawl - not damage
pris rags - not damage, not a proc set
red mountain
redistributor - not a proc set, not damage
rkugamz - not a five piece, not damage
seducer - not a proc set, not damage
selene - not a five piece
sellistrix - not a five piece
shalidor - not a proc set, not damage
sheer venom - not a proc set
spawn of mephala - not a five piece
storm night
stormfist - not a five piece
thunderbug
torug - not a proc set
tremorscale - not a five piece
troll king - not a five piece, not damage
undaunted unw - not a proc set
valkyn skoria - not a five piece
vamp kiss - not a proc set, not damage
varren's leg
velidreth - not a five piece
viper sting
viscous death - not a proc set
warlock - not proc set, not damage
way of fire
whitestrake - not a proc set, not damage
widowmaker - not a proc set
winterborn
withered hand - not damage, not a proc set
wormcult - not a proc set, not damage

Most of these aren't damage sets... Some aren't even proc sets

Do you know what proc means

Vercingetorix

With the upcoming changes to Sloads, ZoS has pretty much neutered the set because kids can't learn to heal and purge correctly, lol. Definitely not worth investing into anymore, but IMO it was never really that great to begin with. If you want to inflict significant oblivion damage to opponents, there are other armor sets and combos that you can use to great effect - I never swapped to Sloads because it is actually WEAKER than my setup. Sloads is becoming a reflectable projectile - and weaker - and delayed - and less ticks, so... yeah, feel free to skip on Sloads now.

Hint: If you are a magicka warden, there is a combo that allows you to buff all of your outgoing Oblivion damage by approximately 25%. Don't follow the meta.

Vapirko

josiahva wrote: »

Jammer480 wrote: »

Kram8ion wrote: »

Crafted it, used it, was disappointed
Deconstructing

Same here, and it's rarely in my death recap. I don't get the hate...

And on the other hand, Incap Stike and Lethal Arrow is ALWAYS in my death recap... so that means those 2 (lack of)skills need to be nerfed, right?...some people are effing stupid.

The people really whining about it are shield stacking(or heavy armor) 1vXers who are used to never dying. When something kills them, they come on these forums screaming about how OP it is and demanding ZOS nerf it so their cancer-builds can continue to 1vX everything in sight. I don't care about this set...just like I don't care about viper , or any number of other proc-DoT sets. Its just the flavor of the month....right now everyone and their brother might be using this set, but that will change soon enough, nerf or no nerf as some streamer comes out with some other build(these people will rarely try their own builds, but they will be all over some streamer's build). I appreciate the insight of people like Alcast(and PvP streamers) but I think promoting cookie cutter builds by streaming is unhealthy for the game in general and absolutely kills build diversity...not that anyone will ever stop doing so...as long as people make videos, someone else will copy the build instead of thinking for themselves.

Lol you mean as apposed to the people who come on here screaming that something is OP because it kills them when they try to Xv1? If you think 1vXers are used to not dying then you’re terribly mistaken. And by and large the good streamers hvent been promoting sloads builds. Alcast has openly stated he hates the set and thinks it’s OP.

Girl_Number8

It's not hard to craft so just go for it and see if you like it~

It's just a game at the end of the day, a game a lot of is put way too much time and money into but it's okie because I like my S and M relationship with zos~