Sloads + Sheer Venom + Skoria - the best time I've had playing ESO

Nuitar

Dropping a 900/tic, 800/tic (sheervenom), 900/600/tic (poison) for a total of about ~3.2-3.5K DPS after hitting a defile snipe and then just walking away with a 3.5k skoria proc dropping a few seconds in is an outright onslaught. Allows for such a safer playstyle, focusing on block and LoS as opposed to landing attacks.

Run the stamina food + stam recovery for full glass cannon. A single snipe + poison arrow kills most. Get the attacks off then stealth away. I'm taking out 4/5 on siege before I'm noticed.

If you've seen me in BGs/no CP Cyro the last few days, this is what I was running. I know that this is largely due to the proc set and the 2H change, but God it feels fun. Nothing feels better right now than killing stamsorcs with the DoT while you tumble out of range of their aoes...this is the first time I've been top10 on the emp list, entirely solo .

Feanor

Embrace the cheese. I never understand how that can be fun, but to each his own.

Ankael07

Snipe? Who even uses skills in 2018? Just equip Widowmaker instead of Sheer Venom and spam light attacks with double damage poison, killing people with mouse clicks just like an FPS game.

CatchMeTrolling

The quality of players is going down with every patch , just throw on a set that does all the work now and you’re good to go.

Betsararie

Agreed the 2h set change has made for the most fun I've had in the game in a while.

Nuitar

To be honest, I don't necessarily agree with this 'just pop on a set that does all the work' argument. The proc sets require you to make a conscious decision that negatively impacts your sustain and survivability. You can still screw it up - positioning, resource management...they just make the damage dealing aspect of pvp a bit more predictable.

That, and since most people are also running some form of proc set, they have also opted to make this decision, and as such are generally easier to kill and are the types of folks who write inflammatory nerf posts.

The other group - those that opt for sustain (eg, bone pirate/shackle) and survivability (riposte, transmutation, duroks, troll king) - are generally much harder to kill but cannot burst like a proc set and as such are not optimal for ganking/stealth based play - which is how I prefer to play.

Vencenzo

Nuitar wrote: »

To be honest, I don't necessarily agree with this 'just pop on a set that does all the work' argument. The proc sets require you to make a conscious decision that negatively impacts your sustain and survivability. You can still screw it up - positioning, resource management...they just make the damage dealing aspect of pvp a bit more predictable.

That, and since most people are also running some form of proc set, they have also opted to make this decision, and as such are generally easier to kill and are the types of folks who write inflammatory nerf posts.

The other group - those that opt for sustain (eg, bone pirate/shackle) and survivability (riposte, transmutation, duroks, troll king) - are generally much harder to kill but cannot burst like a proc set and as such are not optimal for ganking/stealth based play - which is how I prefer to play.

Mostly agree with this. Instant proc sets were so bad because they could RNG gib someone when stacked.
DoT proc sets are a dynamic choice. You wind up with less overall damage but the ability to build far greater sustain. This implies less bonus to healing abilities as well.

Sloads by itself is a not problem.
The problem is when a zerg stacks 5-6 sloads on one target and they are sentenced to death.
Sloads would be just fine if multiple players sloads could not stack on one target.

Vaoh

Yup. This is ZOS’s direction with balancing... if you can call it balancing at all.

Embrace it. Not gonna change

akray21

Builds like this are why I'm taking yet another break from this game. Have fun while it lasts though.

Asardes

Takes-No-Prisoner

Mac AND Cheese PIZZA



So you can hit like a mac truck AND be XTREMELY CHEESEY

Toast_STS

How do you proc sheer venom with just 1 snipe?

Qbiken

Toast_STS wrote: »

How do you proc sheer venom with just 1 snipe?

Was thinking the same thing......
(5 items) When you deal damage with an Execute ability you infect the enemy, dealing 8428 Poison Damage over 6 seconds. The effect can occur once every 6 seconds.

Poison injection would proc it however. But personally I don´t see the point with this set if you want to cheese things. The damage is halved in PvP and then you take enemies resistance into account. Highest I´ve seen this set tick for is probably 500-800 damage/tick. But if it works for OP, then congrats

Vapirko

Nuitar wrote: »

To be honest, I don't necessarily agree with this 'just pop on a set that does all the work' argument. The proc sets require you to make a conscious decision that negatively impacts your sustain and survivability. You can still screw it up - positioning, resource management...they just make the damage dealing aspect of pvp a bit more predictable.

That, and since most people are also running some form of proc set, they have also opted to make this decision, and as such are generally easier to kill and are the types of folks who write inflammatory nerf posts.

The other group - those that opt for sustain (eg, bone pirate/shackle) and survivability (riposte, transmutation, duroks, troll king) - are generally much harder to kill but cannot burst like a proc set and as such are not optimal for ganking/stealth based play - which is how I prefer to play.

Sloads is a great set, the 2-4 piece bonuses are very good, similar to shacklebreaker. You don’t sacrifice anything by running this set. They’ve made it so that it benefits any class. If you want to run this and Zaan on a mag DK or a magicka NB you can then choose to run another full damage or sustain set or an in between set like shacklebreaker according to your level of comfort and experience. Sloads and Zaan alone can provide more than enough supplementary damage. Especially when you start using defile, or you have multiple people running these sets. Saying that people using sloads and other proc sets are making sacrifices just is not true.

olsborg

Itemization rules this game, not skill, its been like this for years already, it started with the introduction of the monster sets way back when and it only keeps getting worse.

DrFail

Has anyone seen a sload's, Oblivion enchant torug's, skoria mDK it's just kill people with heavy attacks and drain resorces casting infinite talons and fossilize this whole expansion is different flavors of cheese

Betsararie

DrFail wrote: »

Has anyone seen a sload's, Oblivion enchant torug's, skoria mDK it's just kill people with heavy attacks and drain resorces casting infinite talons and fossilize this whole expansion is different flavors of cheese

I have. it's silly, but super fun to play.

lazerlaz

Nuitar wrote: »

Dropping a 900/tic, 800/tic (sheervenom), 900/600/tic (poison) for a total of about ~3.2-3.5K DPS after hitting a defile snipe and then just walking away with a 3.5k skoria proc dropping a few seconds in is an outright onslaught. Allows for such a safer playstyle, focusing on block and LoS as opposed to landing attacks.

Run the stamina food + stam recovery for full glass cannon. A single snipe + poison arrow kills most. Get the attacks off then stealth away. I'm taking out 4/5 on siege before I'm noticed.

If you've seen me in BGs/no CP Cyro the last few days, this is what I was running. I know that this is largely due to the proc set and the 2H change, but God it feels fun. Nothing feels better right now than killing stamsorcs with the DoT while you tumble out of range of their aoes...this is the first time I've been top10 on the emp list, entirely solo .

This worked well before sload if you just went sheer venom, agility, skoria, double dot poisons, and masters bow with all dps on bow bar. Been running it for almost 2 years now. I plan on adding sload to this when it hits console

CatchMeTrolling

Qbiken wrote: »

Toast_STS wrote: »

How do you proc sheer venom with just 1 snipe?

Was thinking the same thing......
(5 items) When you deal damage with an Execute ability you infect the enemy, dealing 8428 Poison Damage over 6 seconds. The effect can occur once every 6 seconds.

Poison injection would proc it however. But personally I don´t see the point with this set if you want to cheese things. The damage is halved in PvP and then you take enemies resistance into account. Highest I´ve seen this set tick for is probably 500-800 damage/tick. But if it works for OP, then congrats

He uses it in no cp, sets like this becomes aids in Bg's. Plus, it's not the only damage that's going to be done.

MickeyBN

@Nuitar would you mind sharing with us what skill line up you use for both bars?


This flavour of cheese has caught my attention.

olesmo

I used to play stam NB with vicecanon, sheer venom. Master bow and maelstrom 2h. The dot preasure is so good on NB. You can keep preasure on targets while you are cloaked, and to me that was what NB was missing. Pure burst build wasnt enough to kill tanky targets.

Mihael

So the most fun you have had is letting your gear to the work rather than your abilities/"skill", that is very interesting lol

I have never understood why player choose this playstyle rather than choosing a build that allows them to fully unlock their classes potential, for example, you play a stam nb I'm assuming, that class can be so powerful and fun to play by using its abilities and mechanic yet you would rather cast a snipe and get most of your damage from gear, but i guess to each their own.

DDuke

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

Toast_STS wrote: »

How do you proc sheer venom with just 1 snipe?

Was thinking the same thing......
(5 items) When you deal damage with an Execute ability you infect the enemy, dealing 8428 Poison Damage over 6 seconds. The effect can occur once every 6 seconds.

Poison injection would proc it however. But personally I don´t see the point with this set if you want to cheese things. The damage is halved in PvP and then you take enemies resistance into account. Highest I´ve seen this set tick for is probably 500-800 damage/tick. But if it works for OP, then congrats

He uses it in no cp, sets like this becomes aids in Bg's. Plus, it's not the only damage that's going to be done.

Not just sets, DoTs in general are strong in BGs & non-CP because you don't have the dilemma of having to spread CPs between Thaumaturge/Master-at-Arms.

Slack

MickeyBN wrote: »

@Nuitar would you mind sharing with us what skill line up you use for both bars?


This flavour of cheese has caught my attention.

Skill line? Who needs a skill line with 3 proc sets

Gprime31

Must be on AD

IZZEFlameLash

DrFail wrote: »

Has anyone seen a sload's, Oblivion enchant torug's, skoria mDK it's just kill people with heavy attacks and drain resorces casting infinite talons and fossilize this whole expansion is different flavors of cheese

"Infinite" Talon in that setup? Bruh, Talon is not sustainable infinitely. But that does sound like something I'd run just to join the cancer meta though.

Waffennacht

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

DrFail wrote: »

Has anyone seen a sload's, Oblivion enchant torug's, skoria mDK it's just kill people with heavy attacks and drain resorces casting infinite talons and fossilize this whole expansion is different flavors of cheese

"Infinite" Talon in that setup? Bruh, Talon is not sustainable infinitely. But that does sound like something I'd run just to join the cancer meta though.

Pretty sure he's referring to the Bug of the Poisons where you do not gain any immunity, not in mist form, not while roll dodging, etc

Thought it was gonna be/was fixed with Summerset

Juhasow

Qbiken wrote: »

Toast_STS wrote: »

How do you proc sheer venom with just 1 snipe?

Was thinking the same thing......
(5 items) When you deal damage with an Execute ability you infect the enemy, dealing 8428 Poison Damage over 6 seconds. The effect can occur once every 6 seconds.

Poison injection would proc it however. But personally I don´t see the point with this set if you want to cheese things. The damage is halved in PvP and then you take enemies resistance into account. Highest I´ve seen this set tick for is probably 500-800 damage/tick. But if it works for OP, then congrats

Everything that deals dmg outside of user skills works in PvP lately. To proc Sheer Venom You can just snipe and then immedietely poison injection since snipe have longer cast time then global cooldown You can shoot both basicly at the same time and poison injection is execute.

SwampRaider

I am enjoying Sloads/Blood spawn/WW hide

It is not the best combo, but I mainly use it so I can spam Dawnbreakers. I use it both for my Stam sorc and stamden

I know it is not the most cheese combo, But I JUST started solo pvping. Normally I play support classes for Ball groups and small mans

Undefwun

Salt mining post...

Nuitar

MickeyBN wrote: »

@Nuitar would you mind sharing with us what skill line up you use for both bars?


This flavour of cheese has caught my attention.

@MickeyBN

Bow Bar:

Poison Injection
Lethal Arrow
Camoflauged hunter (+3% weap damage, major savagery)
Dark Cloak
Flex spot - I generally run merciless for more damage, or use this as my vigor spot
Ult - Flawless DB

2H Bar:
Rally
Blur (I like the morph with +duration)
Ambush
Reverse Slice
Manifestation of terror
Ult - Incap

Combo -

From stealth -
Snipe
Snipe
Cloak before 2nd snipe hits
Poison Injection

IF target near death, LA LA, else

Ambush
Terror
Incap/Reverse slice spam

I find that this combo can reliably kill even the tankiest of builds as long as you make sure to land the fear correctly to keep opponent low on resources.