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Dissapointed That Nocturnal Looks Like a Budget Cosplayer

  • Shawn_PT
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    Aliyavana wrote: »
    molag bals and mephalas models were great, so they can make amazing models

    Molag Bal and Mephala had great detailed models so they could sell their respective statues. Same goes for the Assembly General. A giant dwemer centurion with glowing streaks here and there wouldn't look as impressive in statue and CGI form.
  • Aliyavana
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    Shawn_PT wrote: »
    Aliyavana wrote: »
    molag bals and mephalas models were great, so they can make amazing models

    Molag Bal and Mephala had great detailed models so they could sell their respective statues. Same goes for the Assembly General. A giant dwemer centurion with glowing streaks here and there wouldn't look as impressive in statue and CGI form.

    It wouldn't take much effort to grab a shrike and recolor her to look like nocturnal. Clavicus vile is a simple model yet is fitting
  • D0PAMINE
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    agreed @Aliyavana she's very plain and it doesnt seem like there was much effort to capture her essance
    Edited by D0PAMINE on June 3, 2018 4:53AM
  • Aliyavana
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    I hope she is updated today. If this is the final product ima be disappointed because my redguard can pull off that dress better
  • maboleth
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    Thanks for some spoilers... :( I even briefly read who's the main villain grrrrrr!

    I will stop reading these kind of threads in the future.
  • Jaimeh
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    Necrus011 wrote: »
    I agree the Nocturnal's appearance was pretty bad, but even worse, her role didn't make much sense or mesh with established lore.

    If anything, Mephala should have been the one who betrayed the triad, given she is associated with murder, betrayal, and fate.

    Moreover, the whole primordial darkness/preceding the creation of oblivion angle didn't previously apply to Nocturnal. That is Namira's domain.

    http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Namira

    Granted, Nocturnal is the Daedric Prince of night and shadow, but she has always been more associated with thieves and luck rather than inter-planar domination.

    Nocturnal's characterization and appearance leave much to be desired. I am not sure why ZOS has decided to give her the traits of already established Princes. It is almost like they had plenty of crow, swamp, ghost, and wisp assets and didn't want to develop something more unique that would fit a more appropriate choice of Daedric Prince.

    I was also expecting more of Mephala, but I think we haven't seen the last of her and Vile. As for Nocturnal, I guess she was the protagonist, so to speak, because of her involvement in the CWC story and discovering Sotha-Sil's secret. For me that made sense because even if she is not as 'aggressive' in her domination plans like other Princes, she worked in the shadows for a long time to prepare for her strike, so it was fitting in that way. Regarding her appearance, I think she looked good but unremarkable, especially for a Daedric Prince; outfit submissions for that contest a while back had more imagination and thought put to them than this. I didn't mind not fighting her directly though--Veya was really starting to *** me off by the end of the story :sweat_smile:
  • Mureel
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    Aliyavana wrote: »
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    LOL HER STATUE LOOKS BETTER THAN HER

    Agree!

    No one sees issue with this? xD
  • RaddlemanNumber7
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    Apart from some hair, what I think she really needs to go with that robe is some boxing gloves
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  • Aliyavana
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    It wasnt mentioned in todays patch notes :(
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    Edit: Duplicate post.
    Edited by cyclonus11 on June 5, 2018 10:00PM
  • SilverIce58
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    Aliyavana wrote: »
    It wasnt mentioned in todays patch notes :(

    And yet another thread about something important disregarded.
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  • cyclonus11
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    Well that picture you got is one of Nocturnal's three appearances. Tho i agree it's bit disappointing, it seems better in this one?

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    I blurt-laughed when I saw this in-game. :D
  • Glenmorils
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    Uh... it's a little questionable that some of you seem more concerned that she's a Redguard and not a white woman like she was in Skyrim. Daedric Princes can have many forms.

    I do agree the texture and colors on the robes looks bad (and the poses are laughable) and it looks like there was very little attention to detail with the model in general. But insisting that Nocturnal can only appear as a pale white woman with long dark hair is VERY transparent.
    Edited by Glenmorils on June 4, 2018 5:42PM
  • SilverIce58
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    Glenmorils wrote: »
    Uh... it's a little questionable that some of you seem more concerned that she's a Redguard and not a white woman like she was in Skyrim. Daedric Princes can have many forms.

    I do agree the texture and colors on the robes looks bad (and the poses are laughable) and it looks like there was very little attention to detail with the model in general. But insisting that Nocturnal can only appear as a pale white woman with long dark hair is VERY transparent.

    I mean, the npc in skyrim was a redguard. It says so in the game's files.

    Edit: Also, again, it's not about Nocturnal being a redguard. It's about how poor the model is. Both Mephala and Vile have pretty good to great character models, and then you look at Nocturnal and she looks like that.
    Edited by SilverIce58 on June 4, 2018 5:46PM
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  • Glenmorils
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    Glenmorils wrote: »
    Uh... it's a little questionable that some of you seem more concerned that she's a Redguard and not a white woman like she was in Skyrim. Daedric Princes can have many forms.

    I do agree the texture and colors on the robes looks bad (and the poses are laughable) and it looks like there was very little attention to detail with the model in general. But insisting that Nocturnal can only appear as a pale white woman with long dark hair is VERY transparent.

    I mean, the npc in skyrim was a redguard. It says so in the game's files.

    That's interesting, but her appearance was not that of a typical Redguard (pale skin), which is why so many people in these comments seem to be mentioning that she's a Redguard (black woman.)
    Edit: Also, again, it's not about Nocturnal being a redguard. It's about how poor the model is. Both Mephala and Vile have pretty good to great character models, and then you look at Nocturnal and she looks like that.
    You're right, but several people have commented or danced around not wanting her to be black (or saying it's "weird"). I understand most people are upset about the way the model looks, but there are quite a few comments who have other issues in mind.
    Edited by Glenmorils on June 4, 2018 5:48PM
  • Aliyavana
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    Glenmorils wrote: »
    Uh... it's a little questionable that some of you seem more concerned that she's a Redguard and not a white woman like she was in Skyrim. Daedric Princes can have many forms.

    I do agree the texture and colors on the robes looks bad (and the poses are laughable) and it looks like there was very little attention to detail with the model in general. But insisting that Nocturnal can only appear as a pale white woman with long dark hair is VERY transparent.

    In this case idc if she's a redguard but she looks just like a common redguard
  • Aliyavana
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    Console players, prepare to be dissapointed
  • AbysmalGhul
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    Aliyavana wrote: »
    Console players, prepare to be dissapointed

    Naah. I still have Mephala <3
  • Aliyavana
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    Aliyavana wrote: »
    Console players, prepare to be dissapointed

    Naah. I still have Mephala <3

    mmmm, so cute with those fangs and stuff
  • SilverIce58
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    Aliyavana wrote: »
    Console players, prepare to be dissapointed

    Naah. I still have Mephala <3

    Yessssssssssssssssssss one of my favorite Princes
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  • Aliyavana
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    Aliyavana wrote: »
    Console players, prepare to be dissapointed

    Naah. I still have Mephala <3

    Yessssssssssssssssssss one of my favorite Princes

    those spider legs tho, am I right? and beautiful eyes
  • SilverIce58
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    Aliyavana wrote: »
    Aliyavana wrote: »
    Console players, prepare to be dissapointed

    Naah. I still have Mephala <3

    Yessssssssssssssssssss one of my favorite Princes

    those spider legs tho, am I right? and beautiful eyes

    The spider everything tbh. Did she weave her own dress or did her daedra make it for her is the real question.
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  • Aliyavana
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    Aliyavana wrote: »
    Aliyavana wrote: »
    Console players, prepare to be dissapointed

    Naah. I still have Mephala <3

    Yessssssssssssssssssss one of my favorite Princes

    those spider legs tho, am I right? and beautiful eyes

    The spider everything tbh. Did she weave her own dress or did her daedra make it for her is the real question.

    she probably weaves it herself if you know what I mean
  • YamiKuruku
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    Mephala looks so badass and nocturnal just eh... looks like she had an accident and wanted to cover it lel
    and who cares if she is a redguard, i wouldnt even care if she would be an orc as long as she looks like a daedra and not like a cosplayer
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  • darkstar2084
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    Well I guess you can say she is a deadric prince and take whatever form they want. but its kind of hilarious looking at the statue, shirkes and the default redguard model :#
    Edited by darkstar2084 on June 5, 2018 7:38AM
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    Well I guess you can say she is a deadric prince and take whatever form they want. but its kind of hilarious looking at the statue, shirkes and the default redguard model :#

    She should have just been a better looking shrike
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    Faulgor wrote: »
    Yeah we talked about this on the PTS forum. Shame nothing got changed.
    Faulgor wrote: »
    Yeah we talked about this on the PTS forum. Shame nothing got changed.

    That pretty much seems to be the norm. Never has a single house been changed or improved despite numerous posts of feedback on them from PTS. I have to wonder why they even bother asking.
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  • Voxicity
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    Agreed. Nocturnal looks awful
  • Aliyavana
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    Voxicity wrote: »
    Agreed. Nocturnal looks awful

    now console players are gonna see this "daedric prince"
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