WARNING: Serious glitches with the Barbarian hair

SydneyGrey

Is there any word on whether ZOS is going to fix this serious issue with the barbarian hair? There are some glitches with certain costumes. This is that one-shouldered imperial costume, and it's created splotches of the dress's color where there shouldn't be.
Here's a whole thread about it, but it's hidden in the "bug report" section: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5165720/#Comment_5165720
*EDIT* This was fixed in a patch since I started this thread. Thank you ZOS!

DanteYoda

Yes mine is the same... wasted 1k crowns on it sadly.. and that pink lipstick ruins the face tattoo..

Blutengel

Yeah it looks horrible. Ill wait for a fix before I use it.

ArtCommissions

***, I just bought it...

SydneyGrey

That's the last time I buy a hair or costume on release day. They've been releasing too many items that have issues lately.

Radiance

Mine does the same on a number of costumes. I want more long, flowing hairstyles but not like this... it Looks like a serious case of bed head box hair. I wish they put more effort into hair graphics, the character aesthetic aspects of the game are my favorite part...

MarbleQuiche

SydneyGrey wrote: »

Is there any word on whether ZOS is going to fix this serious issue with the barbarian hair? There are some glitches with certain costumes. This is that one-shouldered imperial costume, and it's created splotches of the dress's color where there shouldn't be.
Here's a whole thread about it, but it's hidden in the "bug report" section: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5165720/#Comment_5165720

This is actually an issue with the three female Imperial costumes. It happens with these costumes and the Adorable Assassin hair too.

I've been reporting it fairly regularly since the day that hair style dropped, but I'm convinced the problem is actually with those three costumes (the colour on the hair bleeds from whatever colour they're dyed).

Viscous119

I bought the Nord hairstyle pack, and I'm really upset with the way it looks. It looks like she is wearing TWO wigs. Zenimax, someone should be confirming that the product you put up on the CROWN STORE is what was shown. It is very misleading to show the Nord hair on the store when it does not look that way in game. Btw, the Nord hair is glitched with other costumes as well.

RANKK7

Yes, this item displays all kind of weirdness, alpha channels clusterf... paired with some costumes and it has bad shades too but I was totally expecting all this just from the datamined pic.

I bought it because it's long hair and because the whole pack that came at a fairly decent price (for zos pricing) but really it's not a product that should have been put on the market as it is and they got away with it for the low price (being included in a four-five items pack).

duendology

I so looked forward to this. I previewed the hairstyle on a few of my characters..and all of them looked like they had, I don't know what...but not.....hair.

Pass.

heaven13

duendology wrote: »

I so looked forward to this. I previewed the hairstyle on a few of my characters..and all of them looked like they had, I don't know what...but not.....hair.

Pass.

I agree. I really dislike this hair and, honestly, it's keeping my from purchasing the pack. I like a couple of the items, but the hair is just very poor quality. I don't want to reward ZOS with my crowns when something as bad as that hair is included.

I previewed it on ALL of my characters and even with completely different face structures, it didn't look good on a single one.

SydneyGrey

MarbleQuiche wrote: »

This is actually an issue with the three female Imperial costumes. It happens with these costumes and the Adorable Assassin hair too.

I have the Adorable Assassin hair and never noticed it causing any glitches. Maybe I'll load my game up and look again. It might just be that it wasn't obvious enough for me to notice.

MarbleQuiche

SydneyGrey wrote: »

MarbleQuiche wrote: »

This is actually an issue with the three female Imperial costumes. It happens with these costumes and the Adorable Assassin hair too.

I have the Adorable Assassin hair and never noticed it causing any glitches. Maybe I'll load my game up and look again. It might just be that it wasn't obvious enough for me to notice.

Try it with the three female Imperial costumes. You're looking for colouring on the tips. It's exactly the same issue as this hair, but it's less noticeable because it's shorter (it's right on the tips). It looks to me like a problem with those costumes having used the same underlying mesh (obviously the fancy one has an extra shoulder and arms). It's like there are some vertices that should've been deleted that are rigged for a texture, and the hair texture is sticking to them and being influenced by the colour the costumes are dyed.

Someone else in this thread said there was a problem with the Nord hair too. Does anyone know if it's with these same three costumes (that's the one hair I don't have).

That aside, I actually like this hair It looks like a bed head. Anyone who says it doesn't look real is basically saying my hair is fake because it looks exactly like it D

weedgenius

I was running behind someone who had this hair and a costume on and it looked terrible Totally stringy and sectioned weird

lishybach

I love the way this hairstyle looks with a hat on! Like the crown of misrule for example. It looks so much better with the crown on. I wouldn’t mind having the hairstyle it changes to when you apply the hat. It dramatically changes.

I tried adding a picture but apparently I don’t know what I’m doing so it’s not popping up lol.

https://screenshotscontent-d2001.xboxlive.com/xuid-2533274831759189-private/62f7c2d0-2410-448e-9973-a1fc834d030e.PNG?sv=2015-12-11&sr=b&si=DefaultAccess&sig=wBOmwdgFG0HlMZ2Iq0pYLlG0rafgnPZl1Ee4los13cg=

ixie

lishybach wrote: »

I love the way this hairstyle looks with a hat on! Like the crown of misrule for example. It looks so much better with the crown on. I wouldn’t mind having the hairstyle it changes to when you apply the hat. It dramatically changes.

could you post a pic

lishybach

ixie wrote: »

lishybach wrote: »

I love the way this hairstyle looks with a hat on! Like the crown of misrule for example. It looks so much better with the crown on. I wouldn’t mind having the hairstyle it changes to when you apply the hat. It dramatically changes.

could you post a pic

I’m trying but I don’t know what I’m doing wrong

lishybach

I tried again lol
Edited::: I added the link to my first post. Couldn’t get it to work.

heaven13

@lishybach upload to somewhere like imgur or Flickr, then you'd post it here using the img tags and the link you got from that site. Whatever you posted above downloaded to my phone and is trying to alter one of my apps, so it's not a link to a png or jpg

SydneyGrey

It's not just the Imperial costumes. This is one of the costumes you get as a reward for doing all the Wrothgar quests. On the left is how the costume is supposed to look. On the right, with the Barbarian hair.

ixie

thanks for the pic @lishybach it does look great with a hat

lishybach

heaven13 wrote: »

@lishybach upload to somewhere like imgur or Flickr, then you'd post it here using the img tags and the link you got from that site. Whatever you posted above downloaded to my phone and is trying to alter one of my apps, so it's not a link to a png or jpg

Oh no! I’m sorry
Here we go. I think I figured it out. Sorry about that.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/140602769@N06/shares/o1dM19

MarbleQuiche

weedgenius wrote: »

I was running behind someone who had this hair and a costume on and it looked terrible Totally stringy and sectioned weird

In the early 90s that was a fashionable look People put a lot of effort into looking like they didn't care.

SydneyGrey wrote: »

It's not just the Imperial costumes. This is one of the costumes you get as a reward for doing all the Wrothgar quests. On the left is how the costume is supposed to look. On the right, with the Barbarian hair.

Interesting. So it could be an issue with the hair after all. Or with the Imperial costumes and the Wrothgar costume. Or combinations thereof.

So far we have the Wrothgar and 3 female Imperial costumes, and the Barbarian, Brassy Assassin and Nord hair. What is the Nord hair? Is it the Pact Veteran one? What costumes does it glitch with?

SydneyGrey

MarbleQuiche wrote: »

Interesting. So it could be an issue with the hair after all.

It is 100% an issue with the hair. I have (I think) every hair that's ever been done for ESO, and NONE of them glitch like this with multiple costumes.

Any indication this is being fixed yet, ZOS?

MarbleQuiche

SydneyGrey wrote: »

MarbleQuiche wrote: »

Interesting. So it could be an issue with the hair after all.

It is 100% an issue with the hair. I have (I think) every hair that's ever been done for ESO, and NONE of them glitch like this with multiple costumes.

Any indication this is being fixed yet, ZOS?

I'm leaning towards 50/50 costume/hair. Once you get meshes into a rendering engine all sorts of funky conflicts can occur.

I wouldn't hold your breath on fixes unless it becomes a very loud player protest. They've done nothing with the Brassy Assassin hair and they've told them plenty of times

Does the Nord hair really glitch too? I've tried it out and can't recreate. Barbarian and Brassy Assassin makes sense - the former appears to be a modded version of the former. Curiously, the Barbarian with a hat on doesn't glitch (at least not for me).

heaven13

@lishybach you're right. It does look completely better with a hat. It's a totally different hair!

misslexinub19_ESO

Also has clipping issues on the Redguard head mesh. Not just alpha channel issues - the mesh clips into the left side of the face.

AlphaWolfBeast

I have the same issue with the hair with the pirate costume!

ghastley

What I suspect is that it's an issue with two meshes using transparency being overlaid. In the TES games, that would often result in one of the two effectively losing the alpha channel effect. If those outfits are using alpha masking to determine the edge of the cloth, and the hair mesh doing the same to fringe the ends, one or the other would not happen.

It can be avoided in the construction of the meshes, but only if you do it in advance, and on both pieces. Since the hair is new, even if they got it right, some older clothing will trigger the effect. Again, the clothing items were fine at the time they were created, because nothing else overlapped in that way. It only shows up later, when they can come together. You need a huge number of users to try all the combinations.

alenae1b14_ESO

The hair is too pricey for how glitchy it is. If there was an indication it would be improved, I might buy it.

Lord_Eomer

Wanted to buy but stopped after watching preview.

Indeed poorly done.