Worlds First vCR HM & Speedrun by Hodor

Sylosi

Challenging PvE...

Shadowmaster

Turelus wrote: »

Congrats all!

As said on Twitter to Alcast though. I have a lot of respect to the dedication and effort you all put into these clears, but at the same time it's very disappointing to see content being beaten on the first day (or hour) of a new update.

Fang Peak bosses are 50x harder than Volenfell ones maybe whoever is making those dungeons should be helping with the trial stuff.

ANGEL_BtVS

Turelus wrote: »

Congrats all!

As said on Twitter to Alcast though. I have a lot of respect to the dedication and effort you all put into these clears, but at the same time it's very disappointing to see content being beaten on the first day (or hour) of a new update.

I kind of agree, but then again imagine if the best players like them couldn't clear it. The vast majority of the player base still can't clear older vet trials which are easier.

DMuehlhausen

Meld777 wrote: »

Gratz!

But still... lol @ difficulty. As predicted

I mean I'm sure they have been running it over and over on the test servers. So not like this was their first time in there.

driosketch

Damn, that was fast.

Good job.

Rokushakubo

Yeah I don't really think this means much to most especially given that y'all have been running it on PTS. Would mean more in a game where PTS doesn't exist and the race for first starts for everyone equally. Nonetheless, congrats on being the first to login and run content you've been running for weeks.

BuddyAces

Carbonised wrote: »

You really all went directly into the game and trial simply to do this and go make a forum post about it? Way to killl all the fun out of it for yourselves, so gratz on that anyway.

You realise that maybe that's what they get their joy out of? I never ever see end game players bash how other people play their game but there's enough of y'all that bash them. Go pay their sub fee and then maybe you can dictate how they play.

Raraaku

I just wanna know how many practice runs were done on the PTS before the live run. With a speed run like that, I imagine quite a few. Congrats on the achievement.

Kanar

How many stam DDs in group?

Chufu

Congrats Hodor, that's a nice run and good work from all of your 12 players!

Voxicity

Kanar wrote: »

How many stam DDs in group?

I hope you didn't ask this unironically

AhPook_Is_Here

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

Congrats.

Maybe if it was a real trial it would've taken longer than 15 minutes, tho.

Have you ever had your mom lecture you for 15 minutes? 15 minutes can be a very harrowing trial depending on the situation.

Love Wizard

Kanar wrote: »

How many stam DDs in group?

None.

Raraaku wrote: »

I just wanna know how many practice runs were done on the PTS before the live run. With a speed run like that, I imagine quite a few. Congrats on the achievement.

Been raiding on PTS since it got out, three times a week and sometimes more.

Ajitator

Something doesn't sit right with me that content released just this morning was beaten because people got to play it and practice for a month on the PTS.

Pretty sure that's not what it's there for,.

Grats on your self proclaimed "Worlds first" title. Feels good?

Raraaku

Love Wizard wrote: »

Kanar wrote: »

How many stam DDs in group?

None.

Raraaku wrote: »

I just wanna know how many practice runs were done on the PTS before the live run. With a speed run like that, I imagine quite a few. Congrats on the achievement.

Been raiding on PTS since it got out, three times a week and sometimes more.

Very nice, dedication often reaps in great rewards, congratulations once again!

BohnT

Hodor making bad people cry about things they'll never achieve anyway

Gz on speedrun
What was the group composition, 8 magnbs?

Voxicity

BohnT wrote: »

Hodor making bad people cry about things they'll never achieve anyway

Gz on speedrun
What was the group composition, 8 magnbs?

6 with 1 magsorc and a third tank

Kova

The amount of salt in this thread. MMO communities never cease to surprise me. If you think this proves the content is easy, go in there and do the same thing and let people enjoy things.

Congrats for the clear!

driosketch

Ajitator wrote: »

Something doesn't sit right with me that content released just this morning was beaten because people got to play it and practice for a month on the PTS.

Pretty sure that's not what it's there for,.

At the same time, there aren't going to be a lot of organized groups capable of providing feedback on Vet HM trial runs. Past Craglorn, I haven't even touched vet mode for any of the new trials. That was their prize to earn, and it's not going to take any thing from the game I'm playing.

Love Wizard

Ajitator wrote: »

Something doesn't sit right with me that content released just this morning was beaten because people got to play it and practice for a month on the PTS.

Pretty sure that's not what it's there for,.

Grats on your self proclaimed "Worlds first" title. Feels good?

It does feel good, thank you! We're also not pleased with how the PTS system is, but as it stands, zenimax doesnt have a proper QA team to test these trials, so its either this or release bugged and flawed content.

BohnT wrote: »

Hodor making bad people cry about things they'll never achieve anyway

Gz on speedrun
What was the group composition, 8 magnbs?

3 DK's, 1 Templar, 1 Warden, 1 Sorcerer, and 6 Nightblades, all magicka ofcourse.

Kova wrote: »

The amount of salt in this thread. MMO communities never cease to surprise me. If you think this proves the content is easy, go in there and do the same thing and let people enjoy things.

Congrats for the clear!

I agree, the salt in these threads never ceases to amuse me.

Linaleah

Love Wizard wrote: »

Ajitator wrote: »

Something doesn't sit right with me that content released just this morning was beaten because people got to play it and practice for a month on the PTS.

Pretty sure that's not what it's there for,.

Grats on your self proclaimed "Worlds first" title. Feels good?

It does feel good, thank you! We're also not pleased with how the PTS system is, but as it stands, zenimax doesnt have a proper QA team to test these trials, so its either this or release bugged and flawed content.

BohnT wrote: »

Hodor making bad people cry about things they'll never achieve anyway

Gz on speedrun
What was the group composition, 8 magnbs?

3 DK's, 1 Templar, 1 Warden, 1 Sorcerer, and 6 Nightblades, all magicka ofcourse.

Kova wrote: »

The amount of salt in this thread. MMO communities never cease to surprise me. If you think this proves the content is easy, go in there and do the same thing and let people enjoy things.

Congrats for the clear!

I agree, the salt in these threads never ceases to amuse me.

congrats on your achievement but don't you think the fact that you all ended up stacking nighblades for your clear other then tank/healer essentials - is ALSO flawed?

not trying to put it all on you, its on ZoS to balance classes, just mean... if the purpose of you all testing it on pts is to make sure that content is not released in flawed state... seems like its not really serving its purpose anyways.

ClockworkCityBugs

good old times when VET Ophidia clear takes a months to complete, even without HM! from release

and now

its just pathetic to see such low difficulty

nothing to proud here

ezeepeezee

Love Wizard wrote: »

3 DK's, 1 Templar, 1 Warden, 1 Sorcerer, and 6 Nightblades, all magicka ofcourse.

Of course!

Cryptical

The practice time is nice, but the biggest advantage they get is the ability to pull whatever set piece they want out of the container of All The Sets That Exist.

Wanna try dual wielding master swords? Just pull them out of the bag. Sword and mace? In the bag. Mace and axe? In the bag. Different traits? In the bag.

They never need to farm for the items they want to use in their practice and experiences. So they never end up spending time getting items that do not work as well as expected.

The pre-release practice time already calls into question the value of “first”, but having god mode for gear makes the first clear on the test server still have a credibility issue.

Shad0wfire99

Cryptical wrote: »

The practice time is nice, but the biggest advantage they get is the ability to pull whatever set piece they want out of the container of All The Sets That Exist.

Wanna try dual wielding master swords? Just pull them out of the bag. Sword and mace? In the bag. Mace and axe? In the bag. Different traits? In the bag.

They never need to farm for the items they want to use in their practice and experiences. So they never end up spending time getting items that do not work as well as expected.

The pre-release practice time already calls into question the value of “first”, but having god mode for gear makes the first clear on the test server still have a credibility issue.

You know that "god mode" bag of goodies isn't on the live server, right?

GreenhaloX

Oh sure.. nice.. congrats as always, but l'm beginning to to realize that Hodor are really the Bethesda and/or ZOS developers. No way these are otherwise normal players with full-time jobs and life. Ha ha

BohnT

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Oh sure.. nice.. congrats as always, but l'm beginning to to realize that Hodor are really the Bethesda and/or ZOS developers. No way these are otherwise normal players with full-time jobs and life. Ha ha

Then we'd Play a different game for sure, especially balance wise xD

Cryptical

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

Cryptical wrote: »

The practice time is nice, but the biggest advantage they get is the ability to pull whatever set piece they want out of the container of All The Sets That Exist.

Wanna try dual wielding master swords? Just pull them out of the bag. Sword and mace? In the bag. Mace and axe? In the bag. Different traits? In the bag.

They never need to farm for the items they want to use in their practice and experiences. So they never end up spending time getting items that do not work as well as expected.

The pre-release practice time already calls into question the value of “first”, but having god mode for gear makes the first clear on the test server still have a credibility issue.

You know that "god mode" bag of goodies isn't on the live server, right?

Oh, I know that.

Did you read my second-to-last paragraph?

Hodor, and all the other pc players, never need to spend time farming gear to experiment with sets because all of those items are in the bag. So they don’t have to spend time on the live server getting an item that turns out to be a dud.

They only ever need to farm on live for the exact piece that worked the best on the test server.

Not only does the pre-release exposure grant special practice time, but also they don’t have to farm gear for experimentation - they already know what’s exactly needed and have prepped their live server characters with those items.

Peekachu99

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

Cryptical wrote: »

The practice time is nice, but the biggest advantage they get is the ability to pull whatever set piece they want out of the container of All The Sets That Exist.

Wanna try dual wielding master swords? Just pull them out of the bag. Sword and mace? In the bag. Mace and axe? In the bag. Different traits? In the bag.

They never need to farm for the items they want to use in their practice and experiences. So they never end up spending time getting items that do not work as well as expected.

The pre-release practice time already calls into question the value of “first”, but having god mode for gear makes the first clear on the test server still have a credibility issue.

You know that "god mode" bag of goodies isn't on the live server, right?

The point he was making was that it’s eliminating trial/ error and failure times. That’s why people are discrediting the declaration of “world first” when Hodor’s actual “world first” was whenever they first did it on PTS—with caveats regarding gear optimization on the fly. I mean you can do the Trial sets WITH the Trial sets on PTS without having to farm any of them, can’t you? I didn’t check it out this cycle PTS but I think that’s the case.

Nifty2g

Almost no death on release day lol, man really where is my full trial, it’s hard to pass this off as hardest content to date

I’m salty it isn’t a full trial for a chapter instead it’s a mini trial that almost got beat completely on day one