Remember the Grind
AlienatedGoat
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The jewelry craft grind is the absolute of the absolute. The big one. The ultimate.
It'll take you time to research, but far longer to get the mats required to craft and improve just one full gold set.
For myself, I've calculated a minimum of three months of grind for the one crafted set I need. I've prepared a stock of aspirin.
To remind you (please read this if you haven't):
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/411091/jewelry-crafting-get-ready-for-the-worst-grind-in-esos-history/p1
In honor of those who we've lost, and will probably lose. We will never forget your memory.
One hundred twenty-nine thousand
Six hundred minutes,
One hundred twenty-nine thousand,
Grinding for months
One hundred twenty-nine thousand
Six hundred minutes
How do you measure, measure this grind?
In research, in farm routes, in sprinting
In stealing of nodes
In iridium, in zircon, in chromium, in terne
In one hundred twenty-nine thousand
Six hundred minutes
This grind is awful, why grind it at all?
How about seams? How about dust?
How about plates? Measure in plates
Grinding for grains
Grinding for plates
One hundred twenty-nine thousand
Six hundred minutes
One hundred twenty-nine thousand
Minutes to waste
One hundred twenty-nine thousand
Six hundred minutes
How do you measure the grind
Of a ring or a neck?
In seams that we looted
Or in trials that we cleared
In dust that we refined
Or the stuff we deconned
It's time now to remember
Though the grind never ends
Let's commisserate
Remember the months in the grind of jewelry
Remember the grind
(ZOS, we hate you, we hate you)
Remember the grains
(Ten times the grind)
Remember the seams
(Sixteen thousand dust per piece)
Grinding for months
Grinding for jewels
Edit: Before you post about how the grind isn't that bad, please, please, please read the link above in this OP. That way you can see for yourself the numbers involved in the jewelry materials grind.
My grievance with the crafting system being implemented has nothing to do with research times, but rather the 10x improvement mat grind, where every improvement mat counts for only 1/10th of a full mat equivalent in the other 6 crafting lines. The research times are the same as the other crafts. The improvement mats are not. Don't make posts using research times as an argument. It holds no water here.
Edited by AlienatedGoat on May 16, 2018 7:53PM It'll take you time to research, but far longer to get the mats required to craft and improve just one full gold set.
For myself, I've calculated a minimum of three months of grind for the one crafted set I need. I've prepared a stock of aspirin.
To remind you (please read this if you haven't):
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/411091/jewelry-crafting-get-ready-for-the-worst-grind-in-esos-history/p1
In honor of those who we've lost, and will probably lose. We will never forget your memory.
One hundred twenty-nine thousand
Six hundred minutes,
One hundred twenty-nine thousand,
Grinding for months
One hundred twenty-nine thousand
Six hundred minutes
How do you measure, measure this grind?
In research, in farm routes, in sprinting
In stealing of nodes
In iridium, in zircon, in chromium, in terne
In one hundred twenty-nine thousand
Six hundred minutes
This grind is awful, why grind it at all?
How about seams? How about dust?
How about plates? Measure in plates
Grinding for grains
Grinding for plates
One hundred twenty-nine thousand
Six hundred minutes
One hundred twenty-nine thousand
Minutes to waste
One hundred twenty-nine thousand
Six hundred minutes
How do you measure the grind
Of a ring or a neck?
In seams that we looted
Or in trials that we cleared
In dust that we refined
Or the stuff we deconned
It's time now to remember
Though the grind never ends
Let's commisserate
Remember the months in the grind of jewelry
Remember the grind
(ZOS, we hate you, we hate you)
Remember the grains
(Ten times the grind)
Remember the seams
(Sixteen thousand dust per piece)
Grinding for months
Grinding for jewels
Edit: Before you post about how the grind isn't that bad, please, please, please read the link above in this OP. That way you can see for yourself the numbers involved in the jewelry materials grind.
My grievance with the crafting system being implemented has nothing to do with research times, but rather the 10x improvement mat grind, where every improvement mat counts for only 1/10th of a full mat equivalent in the other 6 crafting lines. The research times are the same as the other crafts. The improvement mats are not. Don't make posts using research times as an argument. It holds no water here.
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm 99% certain I'll get jewelry crafting accomplished before I hit Grand Overlord. 64 million AP is quite the grind.15 -
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✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »I'm 99% certain I'll get jewelry crafting accomplished before I hit Grand Overlord. 64 million AP is quite the grind.
PvP isn't a grind. It's masochism.PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaah15 -
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After that pitiful crown sale, ZO$ isn't getting another dime from me. Not until I see some changes in how they do business.PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaah11 -
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After that pitiful crown sale, ZO$ isn't getting another dime from me. Not until I see some changes in how they do business.
Same, and apparently people think you were banned because you quit playing too
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✭✭✭Can we now appreciate how long it took Sauron to craft 20 gold rings?
According to Lotr lore only 1 ring was crafted by Sauron, the other 19 were crafted by the elves of the Eregion.
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AlienatedGoat✭✭✭✭✭
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According to Lotr lore only 1 ring was crafted by Sauron, the other 19 were crafted by the elves of the Eregion.
http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Rings_of_Power
And that one gold ring probably took him less than 15,000 dust to make.PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaah13 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I agree but hate that song from Rent .. Now it will be in this ones head all night dang it .1 -
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✭✭Whats wrong with your old rings and amulets.. The content hasn't changed last i looked.2 -
lardvader✭✭✭✭✭Well it will be a grind and it will take time. Something tells me there will be changes to how mats drops and quantity but the research seems fine.
I won't make any big changes to my characters for now and will just focus on research and deconning to get to lvl 50 on main crafter. Will be nice one day to play around with 2 crafted sets.... one day around Christmas maybe
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✭I think we have forgotten the gear research time. I mean *** I have been playing for like 2-3 years and I'm just finally finishing my 9th trait on alot
(Granted I slack and don't always have something being researched)4 -
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According to Lotr lore only 1 ring was crafted by Sauron, the other 19 were crafted by the elves of the Eregion.
http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Rings_of_Power
That wiki page could use some editing...
Anyway, the gist of the thing is, that Sauron sold the elves on the idea of rings of power, and told Celebrimbor how to craft them. They then crafted 16 rings together. Then Sauron went to Mount Doom to make the One Ring, but meanwhile Celebrimbor made three more in secret. Just to show off that he didn't need Sauron to pull it off.
Even though they were crafted by Celebrimbor alone, they were still made with "code" received from Sauron, and thus he could "hack" into them via a "backdoor", as long as he had the One Ring. However, since those three rings were made without the direct involvement of Sauron, they were "safe" to use, as long as the One Ring was not in Sauron's hand.
Thus Sauron was involved in the crafting of 17 of the Rings. He probably also made some of the lesser rings too, while teaching the elves the craft, but the books don't really tell us much about that. Beyond that many lesser rings were made.5 -
simple_specops✭✭✭Guys do you remember when IC was first released and the only way to get tier10 mats was by farming and deconstructing drops from the mobs in imperial city? I think that was the worse grind ever, especially because we weren't as powerful as we are now, how bad can it be picking a few stones?4 -
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✭✭✭Just wait until all the threads about node ninjas pop up as a result of entitlement and grind-fever.Fear is the Mindkiller1 -
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✭simple_specops wrote: »Guys do you remember when IC was first released and the only way to get tier10 mats was by farming and deconstructing drops from the mobs in imperial city? I think that was the worse grind ever, especially because we weren't as powerful as we are now, how bad can it be picking a few stones?
Pretty bad.
The mobs at IC dropped stuff at a steady pace, and were on a fast respawn cycle. And the mobs and their drops could be shared by multiple players. Plus you could buy those mats for tel-var too.
I sold thousands of mats back during IC heydays, and had no difficulties in crafting my own vet16 gear.
Jewelry crafting nodes, on the other hand, are rare and few between and players are in direct competition against each other to harvest them. And their respawn rates are... slow.
It's a grind - an epic grind, and one I am not gonna give a rat's ass about. I got better things to do with my life, than work full time in the virtual jewelry mines of Tamriel.14 -
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✭I am sure we will all have maxed it out and be swimming in mats long before SPC ever hits the golden vendor.[DC/NA]2 -
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Instant gratification. People want things immediately. I'm in no rush to burn through it, it just gives me a reason to play ESO as opposed to any other game I play with my limited time.
No one is asking for instant gratification.
We are asking for Jewelry crafting to be brought in-line with the other crafting professions in terms of the mat cost of upgrading.
This 'people want instant gratification' is a BS straw-man argument.13 -
simple_specops✭✭✭I sold thousands of mats back during IC heydays, and had no difficulties in crafting my own vet16 gear.
Jewelry crafting nodes, on the other hand, are rare and few between and players are in direct competition against each other to harvest them. And their respawn rates are... slow.
It's a grind - an epic grind, and one I am not gonna give a rat's ass about. I got better things to do with my life, than work full time in the virtual jewelry mines of Tamriel.
Lol love the last bit, I'm on console so I didn't have access to the pts and I don't know the actual spawns or farming routes for the new jewelry but I'm sure that if the community cries hard enough they're going to use the Nerf hammer and spawn more or faster nodes, than they'll overdo it and Nerf the buff as usual, and yes I think that's what they want 10 million players mining gold for them ahahahhah , can't we worse or more frustrating then the trial or arena farms anyway, they've improved the quality of life there with the guaranteed drop so I'm sure in the long run its going to be changed first week it's gonna make few people very very rich though especially the ones at zos0 -
simple_specops✭✭✭I am sure we will all have maxed it out and be swimming in mats long before SPC ever hits the golden vendor.
Spc is never going to hit the golden vendor
They've got to many crappy sets to even consider that, why charge 250k alliance for one of the best sets in the game when we could charge exactly the same for something no one is going to want?
Friday at midnight spc hits golden vendor0 -
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Also, unbuffed research times are:
6h, 12h, 24h, 2d, 4d, 8d, 16d, 32d, 64d times 2.
Once you get the passives it won't be as bad. And the sweet spot will be 6 traits researched.
No one is complaining about the research times.
The amount of mats required to upgrade pieces is the problem.9 -
bri5✭✭✭NordSwordnBoard wrote: »Just wait until all the threads about node ninjas pop up as a result of entitlement and grind-fever.
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✭✭✭✭✭Apache_Kid wrote: »
No one is asking for instant gratification.
We are asking for Jewelry crafting to be brought in-line with the other crafting professions in terms of the mat cost of upgrading.
This 'people want instant gratification' is a BS straw-man argument.
Couldn't agree more. It's mainly the 10x mat cost for improvement that I hate. It's obnoxious when seams are already much more rare than your average nodePC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaah9 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I am sure we will all have maxed it out and be swimming in mats long before SPC ever hits the golden vendor.
Yeah, no.
You might have the skill line maxed. I know I will.
But when you need 10x the mats to improve to green, blue, purple and gold, you're not going to be "swimming in mats".
You'll be drowning in grind.PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaah4
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