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Can anyone check if they fixed sload's breaking cloak please?

  • glavius
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    ak_pvp wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    glavius wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Sload: 850 damage/second. 10% chance to proc.
    Viper: 1600 damage/second. 100% chance to proc.

    Like i said. Only saving grace is the oblivion damage type.

    Viper after battle spirit = 800/second.
    Viper after battle spirit and 20% mitigation = 640/second.

    10% proc chance is quite a lot because it works on all damage. So a weave of light attack, weapon glyph, skill and bash is a 40% proc chance. Add in dots and it will have a VERY high uptime. It also works at range unlike viper.

    So we have a set that's already quite strong at 640 dmg/second. (viper 5 piece makes up on average 17% of my sustained dmg on my Stam NB, it's quite a good set)
    And we have a new set, which does 850dmg/second, and works as a hardcounter for both cloak and healing ward.

    It also has great 2-4 set bonuses (better than viper for pvp, and can be used by magicka classes)

    Will I use it and wreck any cloaking NB or shielding sorc/mag nb? Sure.
    Is it balanced? Hell no.
    Will it be nerfed after I craft a full set of very expensive jewelry? Only wrobel knows

    - It will have a high uptime (tho you cannot just add percentages like that), but still not 100%.
    - It counters cloak(if it procs), but its not like NB's aren't used to cloak breaking on a myriad other things already, so no big deal there (at least for me, im surprised everytime cloak *does* work).
    - I don't see how an 850 damage tick counters healing ward, really. Unless the guy is next to dead already, you have to get through the shield to kill him, and oblivion damage does not help with that. Personal experience with shieldbreaker.
    - The set's 2-4 bonuses mark it as a hybrid set, which may not be for everyone.

    Remember how knightslayer set was supposed to be the end of the world when it was on PTS according to these forums?

    This is the same. A storm in a teapot. Mark my words.

    Knightslayer was nerfed by 25% before it hit live. Not a good argument to make.

    Knightslayer has been heralded as the set to end all sets well into the actual release, after all PTS adjustments have been made. Where is it now?

    Same with shieldbreaker - it was supposed to make magicka sorcs extinct, if you believed the forums. I guarantee you i meet a lot more magicka sorcs nowadays than shieldbreakers.

    This set is going to end up being the same. Useful, yes (i'm thinking of using it on my WW, purely because of how the WW has trouble with uncovering cloaked players). But everyone and their mother using this in exclusion of all the other possible sets? No chance.

    Knight slayer used to work on every tick of lightning heavies. So it was real strong for a bit.

    Now though, it's kind of useless, sloads has been tested and it isn't. How much sloads we will see is another thing, it is quite a sacrifice if solo.

    Why is it a sacrifice if solo? Best sustained damage and cloak counter in a single 5 piece bonus
  • Lord-Otto
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    @Derra
    I have voiced my negative opinion on Sload's and I have stated I'm not going to use it. It'll go live, anyway, so having the "Shieldbreaker Karma" being spit back at certain people is a joy you can honestly allow me. You know with what ridiculousness we had to discuss with.

    @Sharee
    As expected, you as an NB main vaaastly exaggerate Cloak counters. Truth of the matter is, Cloak counters are insufficient, or NBs wouldn't be rocking Cyro.
    You'll now experience a true counter and I hope that opens your NB eyes.
  • BohnT
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    Sharee wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    glavius wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Sload: 850 damage/second. 10% chance to proc.
    Viper: 1600 damage/second. 100% chance to proc.

    Like i said. Only saving grace is the oblivion damage type.

    Viper after battle spirit = 800/second.
    Viper after battle spirit and 20% mitigation = 640/second.

    10% proc chance is quite a lot because it works on all damage. So a weave of light attack, weapon glyph, skill and bash is a 40% proc chance. Add in dots and it will have a VERY high uptime. It also works at range unlike viper.

    So we have a set that's already quite strong at 640 dmg/second. (viper 5 piece makes up on average 17% of my sustained dmg on my Stam NB, it's quite a good set)
    And we have a new set, which does 850dmg/second, and works as a hardcounter for both cloak and healing ward.

    It also has great 2-4 set bonuses (better than viper for pvp, and can be used by magicka classes)

    Will I use it and wreck any cloaking NB or shielding sorc/mag nb? Sure.
    Is it balanced? Hell no.
    Will it be nerfed after I craft a full set of very expensive jewelry? Only wrobel knows

    - It will have a high uptime (tho you cannot just add percentages like that), but still not 100%.
    - It counters cloak(if it procs), but its not like NB's aren't used to cloak breaking on a myriad other things already, so no big deal there (at least for me, im surprised everytime cloak *does* work).
    - I don't see how an 850 damage tick counters healing ward, really. Unless the guy is next to dead already, you have to get through the shield to kill him, and oblivion damage does not help with that. Personal experience with shieldbreaker.
    - The set's 2-4 bonuses mark it as a hybrid set, which may not be for everyone.

    Remember how knightslayer set was supposed to be the end of the world when it was on PTS according to these forums?

    This is the same. A storm in a teapot. Mark my words.

    Knightslayer was nerfed by 25% before it hit live. Not a good argument to make.

    Knightslayer has been heralded as the set to end all sets well into the actual release, after all PTS adjustments have been made. Where is it now?

    Same with shieldbreaker - it was supposed to make magicka sorcs extinct, if you believed the forums. I guarantee you i meet a lot more magicka sorcs nowadays than shieldbreakers.

    This set is going to end up being the same. Useful, yes (i'm thinking of using it on my WW, purely because of how the WW has trouble with uncovering cloaked players). But everyone and their mother using this in exclusion of all the other possible sets? No chance.

    There are 20 players i know from the top of my head who run shieldbreaker/ infused oblivion torugs or both from the top of my head in Pc EU Vivec.

    Any sorc that meets them is at a huge disadvantage.
    Also Sload will be used way more often than Shieldbreaker because it reveals Nbs every second, try to fight with a nb against someone exploiting Soultrap bug.
    Cloak works very well but it will be back to useless once sload comes to live especially in outnumbered fights.

    The only thing that will stop this set from becoming a bane is that scrubs read "does 800 damage" and assume it's useless once they learn that it's one of the best tools in the game they will start to plague PvP with this abomination of a set
  • Sharee
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    ak_pvp wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    glavius wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Sload: 850 damage/second. 10% chance to proc.
    Viper: 1600 damage/second. 100% chance to proc.

    Like i said. Only saving grace is the oblivion damage type.

    Viper after battle spirit = 800/second.
    Viper after battle spirit and 20% mitigation = 640/second.

    10% proc chance is quite a lot because it works on all damage. So a weave of light attack, weapon glyph, skill and bash is a 40% proc chance. Add in dots and it will have a VERY high uptime. It also works at range unlike viper.

    So we have a set that's already quite strong at 640 dmg/second. (viper 5 piece makes up on average 17% of my sustained dmg on my Stam NB, it's quite a good set)
    And we have a new set, which does 850dmg/second, and works as a hardcounter for both cloak and healing ward.

    It also has great 2-4 set bonuses (better than viper for pvp, and can be used by magicka classes)

    Will I use it and wreck any cloaking NB or shielding sorc/mag nb? Sure.
    Is it balanced? Hell no.
    Will it be nerfed after I craft a full set of very expensive jewelry? Only wrobel knows

    - It will have a high uptime (tho you cannot just add percentages like that), but still not 100%.
    - It counters cloak(if it procs), but its not like NB's aren't used to cloak breaking on a myriad other things already, so no big deal there (at least for me, im surprised everytime cloak *does* work).
    - I don't see how an 850 damage tick counters healing ward, really. Unless the guy is next to dead already, you have to get through the shield to kill him, and oblivion damage does not help with that. Personal experience with shieldbreaker.
    - The set's 2-4 bonuses mark it as a hybrid set, which may not be for everyone.

    Remember how knightslayer set was supposed to be the end of the world when it was on PTS according to these forums?

    This is the same. A storm in a teapot. Mark my words.

    Knightslayer was nerfed by 25% before it hit live. Not a good argument to make.

    Knightslayer has been heralded as the set to end all sets well into the actual release, after all PTS adjustments have been made. Where is it now?

    Same with shieldbreaker - it was supposed to make magicka sorcs extinct, if you believed the forums. I guarantee you i meet a lot more magicka sorcs nowadays than shieldbreakers.

    This set is going to end up being the same. Useful, yes (i'm thinking of using it on my WW, purely because of how the WW has trouble with uncovering cloaked players). But everyone and their mother using this in exclusion of all the other possible sets? No chance.

    Knight slayer used to work on every tick of lightning heavies. So it was real strong for a bit.

    Now though, it's kind of useless, sloads has been tested and it isn't. How much sloads we will see is another thing, it is quite a sacrifice if solo.

    Knight slayer has also been tested on PTS, that's how the whole "omg" forum storm started in the firstplace. And it wasn't just because of lightning staves.

    "Everyone will pair it with torug set and oblivion glyph! Hide your wives!"
    "It ignores all defenses and it is IMPOSSIBLE to outheal!"
    "Drop whatever you are doing and equip the knightslayer set!"

    Don't you remember it? I do. The history repeats itself.
  • Derra
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    Sharee wrote: »
    ak_pvp wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    glavius wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Sload: 850 damage/second. 10% chance to proc.
    Viper: 1600 damage/second. 100% chance to proc.

    Like i said. Only saving grace is the oblivion damage type.

    Viper after battle spirit = 800/second.
    Viper after battle spirit and 20% mitigation = 640/second.

    10% proc chance is quite a lot because it works on all damage. So a weave of light attack, weapon glyph, skill and bash is a 40% proc chance. Add in dots and it will have a VERY high uptime. It also works at range unlike viper.

    So we have a set that's already quite strong at 640 dmg/second. (viper 5 piece makes up on average 17% of my sustained dmg on my Stam NB, it's quite a good set)
    And we have a new set, which does 850dmg/second, and works as a hardcounter for both cloak and healing ward.

    It also has great 2-4 set bonuses (better than viper for pvp, and can be used by magicka classes)

    Will I use it and wreck any cloaking NB or shielding sorc/mag nb? Sure.
    Is it balanced? Hell no.
    Will it be nerfed after I craft a full set of very expensive jewelry? Only wrobel knows

    - It will have a high uptime (tho you cannot just add percentages like that), but still not 100%.
    - It counters cloak(if it procs), but its not like NB's aren't used to cloak breaking on a myriad other things already, so no big deal there (at least for me, im surprised everytime cloak *does* work).
    - I don't see how an 850 damage tick counters healing ward, really. Unless the guy is next to dead already, you have to get through the shield to kill him, and oblivion damage does not help with that. Personal experience with shieldbreaker.
    - The set's 2-4 bonuses mark it as a hybrid set, which may not be for everyone.

    Remember how knightslayer set was supposed to be the end of the world when it was on PTS according to these forums?

    This is the same. A storm in a teapot. Mark my words.

    Knightslayer was nerfed by 25% before it hit live. Not a good argument to make.

    Knightslayer has been heralded as the set to end all sets well into the actual release, after all PTS adjustments have been made. Where is it now?

    Same with shieldbreaker - it was supposed to make magicka sorcs extinct, if you believed the forums. I guarantee you i meet a lot more magicka sorcs nowadays than shieldbreakers.

    This set is going to end up being the same. Useful, yes (i'm thinking of using it on my WW, purely because of how the WW has trouble with uncovering cloaked players). But everyone and their mother using this in exclusion of all the other possible sets? No chance.

    Knight slayer used to work on every tick of lightning heavies. So it was real strong for a bit.

    Now though, it's kind of useless, sloads has been tested and it isn't. How much sloads we will see is another thing, it is quite a sacrifice if solo.

    Knight slayer has also been tested on PTS, that's how the whole "omg" forum storm started in the firstplace. And it wasn't just because of lightning staves.

    "Everyone will pair it with torug set and oblivion glyph! Hide your wives!"
    "It ignores all defenses and it is IMPOSSIBLE to outheal!"
    "Drop whatever you are doing and equip the knightslayer set!"

    Don't you remember it? I do. The history repeats itself.

    Knightslayer was effin nerfed before it made it to live. It was nerfed by 20% because it was too good + made to procc only once on heavyattack.

    The only one that does seem to have a very selective memory is you.
    Edited by Derra on May 16, 2018 9:24AM
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  • Sharee
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    Derra wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    ak_pvp wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    glavius wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Sload: 850 damage/second. 10% chance to proc.
    Viper: 1600 damage/second. 100% chance to proc.

    Like i said. Only saving grace is the oblivion damage type.

    Viper after battle spirit = 800/second.
    Viper after battle spirit and 20% mitigation = 640/second.

    10% proc chance is quite a lot because it works on all damage. So a weave of light attack, weapon glyph, skill and bash is a 40% proc chance. Add in dots and it will have a VERY high uptime. It also works at range unlike viper.

    So we have a set that's already quite strong at 640 dmg/second. (viper 5 piece makes up on average 17% of my sustained dmg on my Stam NB, it's quite a good set)
    And we have a new set, which does 850dmg/second, and works as a hardcounter for both cloak and healing ward.

    It also has great 2-4 set bonuses (better than viper for pvp, and can be used by magicka classes)

    Will I use it and wreck any cloaking NB or shielding sorc/mag nb? Sure.
    Is it balanced? Hell no.
    Will it be nerfed after I craft a full set of very expensive jewelry? Only wrobel knows

    - It will have a high uptime (tho you cannot just add percentages like that), but still not 100%.
    - It counters cloak(if it procs), but its not like NB's aren't used to cloak breaking on a myriad other things already, so no big deal there (at least for me, im surprised everytime cloak *does* work).
    - I don't see how an 850 damage tick counters healing ward, really. Unless the guy is next to dead already, you have to get through the shield to kill him, and oblivion damage does not help with that. Personal experience with shieldbreaker.
    - The set's 2-4 bonuses mark it as a hybrid set, which may not be for everyone.

    Remember how knightslayer set was supposed to be the end of the world when it was on PTS according to these forums?

    This is the same. A storm in a teapot. Mark my words.

    Knightslayer was nerfed by 25% before it hit live. Not a good argument to make.

    Knightslayer has been heralded as the set to end all sets well into the actual release, after all PTS adjustments have been made. Where is it now?

    Same with shieldbreaker - it was supposed to make magicka sorcs extinct, if you believed the forums. I guarantee you i meet a lot more magicka sorcs nowadays than shieldbreakers.

    This set is going to end up being the same. Useful, yes (i'm thinking of using it on my WW, purely because of how the WW has trouble with uncovering cloaked players). But everyone and their mother using this in exclusion of all the other possible sets? No chance.

    Knight slayer used to work on every tick of lightning heavies. So it was real strong for a bit.

    Now though, it's kind of useless, sloads has been tested and it isn't. How much sloads we will see is another thing, it is quite a sacrifice if solo.

    Knight slayer has also been tested on PTS, that's how the whole "omg" forum storm started in the firstplace. And it wasn't just because of lightning staves.

    "Everyone will pair it with torug set and oblivion glyph! Hide your wives!"
    "It ignores all defenses and it is IMPOSSIBLE to outheal!"
    "Drop whatever you are doing and equip the knightslayer set!"

    Don't you remember it? I do. The history repeats itself.

    Knightslayer was effin nerfed before it made it to live. It was nerfed by 20% because it was too good + made to procc only once on heavyattack.

    The only one that does seem to have a very selective memory is you.
    Sharee wrote: »

    Knightslayer has been heralded as the set to end all sets well into the actual release, after all PTS adjustments have been made.
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    Sooo.. anyone tried Wyrd Tree? Wondering if the 15sec cooldown is too long for sloads.. and if its too indiscriminate.

    Not looking forward to facing Big Bosses bunch of determined solo-chasers with this.. Already hard enough with the multiple shieldbreaker bow-spammers. Not looking forward to dealing with multiple sload dots too...
    Starting to wonder if my main bars will have to be both geared to defence.. shields/mobility/healing/purging/more healing/resto ult.... with space for attacking abilities only on the overload bar(wrath/curse/cage)..??

    People think its hard to kill a sorc now - hahaha!

    I kind of worry that builds capable of dealing with sloads won't die to anyone else. WIll it push people back to a tank meta?


    Edited by Biro123 on May 16, 2018 9:58AM
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  • BohnT
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    Biro123 wrote: »
    Sooo.. anyone tried Wyrd Tree? Wondering if the 15sec cooldown is too long for sloads.. and if its too indiscriminate.

    You can't purge sload
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    BohnT wrote: »
    Biro123 wrote: »
    Sooo.. anyone tried Wyrd Tree? Wondering if the 15sec cooldown is too long for sloads.. and if its too indiscriminate.

    You can't purge sload

    :-( Why does it feel like you just stole my ice-cream?
    Minalan owes me a beer.

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    Aidee - Magsorc - DC
    Notadorf - Stamsorc - DC
    Khattman Doo - Stamblade - Relegated to Crafter, cos AD.
  • glavius
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    BohnT wrote: »
    Biro123 wrote: »
    Sooo.. anyone tried Wyrd Tree? Wondering if the 15sec cooldown is too long for sloads.. and if its too indiscriminate.

    You can't purge sload

    This is a joke right
  • BohnT
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    glavius wrote: »
    BohnT wrote: »
    Biro123 wrote: »
    Sooo.. anyone tried Wyrd Tree? Wondering if the 15sec cooldown is too long for sloads.. and if its too indiscriminate.

    You can't purge sload

    This is a joke right

    Nope, it's really unpurgeable, uncloakable, unblockable and unmitigatable
  • Feanor
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    One very different thing between Shield Breaker and Knight Slayer on the one side and Sload on the other side is the easy accessibility. Unlike the latter these sets required the player to do very specific activities not everyone did (TelVar farming, BGs) and, in case of KS, also a grind for the right traits (before Transmutation). And even now you at least have to pay gold on a vendor to get it.

    Sload? Just hop to the crafting station or ask in your guild. Way easier to get and in perfect trait and weight.
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  • ErMurazor
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    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    @Derra
    I have voiced my negative opinion on Sload's and I have stated I'm not going to use it. It'll go live, anyway, so having the "Shieldbreaker Karma" being spit back at certain people is a joy you can honestly allow me. You know with what ridiculousness we had to discuss with.

    @Sharee
    As expected, you as an NB main vaaastly exaggerate Cloak counters. Truth of the matter is, Cloak counters are insufficient, or NBs wouldn't be rocking Cyro.
    You'll now experience a true counter and I hope that opens your NB eyes.

    Another clueless player. I dont emcounter more Nbs than i do any other class and if i do i gladly kill them without that much effort.
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    [nvm, i read it wrong]
    Edited by Sharee on May 16, 2018 10:25AM
  • Lord-Otto
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    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    @Derra
    I have voiced my negative opinion on Sload's and I have stated I'm not going to use it. It'll go live, anyway, so having the "Shieldbreaker Karma" being spit back at certain people is a joy you can honestly allow me. You know with what ridiculousness we had to discuss with.

    @Sharee
    As expected, you as an NB main vaaastly exaggerate Cloak counters. Truth of the matter is, Cloak counters are insufficient, or NBs wouldn't be rocking Cyro.
    You'll now experience a true counter and I hope that opens your NB eyes.

    Another clueless player. I dont emcounter more Nbs than i do any other class and if i do i gladly kill them without that much effort.

    Then you should try encountering the good NBs for a change.
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    The problem with sloads is that it will be best vs most oponents, permblockers? oblivion dmg np, shieldstackers? oblivion dmg np, cloak? oblivion dmg np, neither of those? oblivion dmg np.

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  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    ErMurazor wrote: »
    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    @Derra
    I have voiced my negative opinion on Sload's and I have stated I'm not going to use it. It'll go live, anyway, so having the "Shieldbreaker Karma" being spit back at certain people is a joy you can honestly allow me. You know with what ridiculousness we had to discuss with.

    @Sharee
    As expected, you as an NB main vaaastly exaggerate Cloak counters. Truth of the matter is, Cloak counters are insufficient, or NBs wouldn't be rocking Cyro.
    You'll now experience a true counter and I hope that opens your NB eyes.

    Another clueless player. I dont emcounter more Nbs than i do any other class and if i do i gladly kill them without that much effort.

    I could swear I encounter a lot more NB than other classes. However most aren’t very skilled. Does that make me clueless too?

    Anyway, I‘m looking forward to put this cheese on my stam sorc dot build. Should save me a lot of magicka from not having to streak through cloak spammers anymore. No shame to admit it.
  • Derra
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    Sharee wrote: »

    Knightslayer has been heralded as the set to end all sets well into the actual release, after all PTS adjustments have been made.

    I don´t know anyone that deemed the set problematic after the nerfs. Care to quote someone on that?

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  • Derra
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    BohnT wrote: »
    glavius wrote: »
    BohnT wrote: »
    Biro123 wrote: »
    Sooo.. anyone tried Wyrd Tree? Wondering if the 15sec cooldown is too long for sloads.. and if its too indiscriminate.

    You can't purge sload

    This is a joke right

    Nope, it's really unpurgeable, uncloakable, unblockable and unmitigatable

    It´s the great equalizer.

    Really no defense mechanic works apart from healing - which is ofc in itself unfair because healing across classes varies. Atleast we get to pair it with op healdebuffs for maximum efficiency.
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  • BohnT
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    Derra wrote: »
    BohnT wrote: »
    glavius wrote: »
    BohnT wrote: »
    Biro123 wrote: »
    Sooo.. anyone tried Wyrd Tree? Wondering if the 15sec cooldown is too long for sloads.. and if its too indiscriminate.

    You can't purge sload

    This is a joke right

    Nope, it's really unpurgeable, uncloakable, unblockable and unmitigatable

    It´s the great equalizer.

    Really no defense mechanic works apart from healing - which is ofc in itself unfair because healing across classes varies. Atleast we get to pair it with op healdebuffs for maximum efficiency.

    Someone insert that FMJ meme where Hartman tells them they are all equally worthless with Sloads and class defences :lol:
  • Aedaryl
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    I think sload could be fine if it wasn't stackable.

    Make sload apply a Major debuff like : Major Oblivion dot.

    Then if 2 people wear sload vs 1, they will be 1 at the disadventage cuz one of them will have a useless set.

    800 oblivion damage per second is not that bad itself. 800x10 is a problem.

    I feel like sload is a set made for people without access to defile for make them competitive vs healing machine. But it's an hybrid set and everyone can use it.


    NB complaining about sload breaking cloak are just the noobs one.

    They are playing the most evade class based and so they are the less exposed to sload proc.

    They also seems to forget the new shadow Image which is the best defensive skill in the all game now you can use it when you want and where you want without limits.

    You get sloaded ?

    Dodge.
    Port to you shadow Image.

    The most funny fact is that the most shieldbreaker user are NBs and now they complain about a set that's so much less effective to counter a class entirely.
  • BohnT
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    Aedaryl wrote: »
    I think sload could be fine if it wasn't stackable.

    Make sload apply a Major debuff like : Major Oblivion dot.

    Then if 2 people wear sload vs 1, they will be 1 at the disadventage cuz one of them will have a useless set.

    800 oblivion damage per second is not that bad itself. 800x10 is a problem.

    I feel like sload is a set made for people without access to defile for make them competitive vs healing machine. But it's an hybrid set and everyone can use it.


    NB complaining about sload breaking cloak are just the noobs one.

    They are playing the most evade class based and so they are the less exposed to sload proc.

    They also seems to forget the new shadow Image which is the best defensive skill in the all game now you can use it when you want and where you want without limits.

    You get sloaded ?

    Dodge.
    Port to you shadow Image.

    The most funny fact is that the most shieldbreaker user are NBs and now they complain about a set that's so much less effective to counter a class entirely.

    Sloads is a hardcounter for cloak just as shieldbreaker is for shields.
    Also saying NBs won't have an issue with sloads works just the same way people say there is no issue with zaan, shieldbreaker or any hardcounter as long as you can get away with streak, shade or anything it's fine?

    No it's not if things completely prevent people from staying in combat to survive is stupid especially when there's no skill required to force your enemy to run away.

    You can always tell @Ragnaroek93 or @Subversus they are bad NBs and then they'll show you the fastest way to a dust tasting festival :wink:
  • Strider__Roshin
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    BohnT wrote: »
    glavius wrote: »
    BohnT wrote: »
    Biro123 wrote: »
    Sooo.. anyone tried Wyrd Tree? Wondering if the 15sec cooldown is too long for sloads.. and if its too indiscriminate.

    You can't purge sload

    This is a joke right

    Nope, it's really unpurgeable, uncloakable, unblockable and unmitigatable

    This is correct!

    Huehuehuehue
  • Minalan
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    Daus wrote: »
    BohnT wrote: »
    glavius wrote: »
    BohnT wrote: »
    Biro123 wrote: »
    Sooo.. anyone tried Wyrd Tree? Wondering if the 15sec cooldown is too long for sloads.. and if its too indiscriminate.

    You can't purge sload

    This is a joke right

    Nope, it's really unpurgeable, uncloakable, unblockable and unmitigatable

    This is correct!

    Huehuehuehue

    The purge part I didn’t know, but I don’t play a Templar.

    It’s still affected by Thaumaturge CP right? People keep mentioning 800 damage, it should be hitting for around 1K.
  • Feanor
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    Minalan wrote: »
    Daus wrote: »
    BohnT wrote: »
    glavius wrote: »
    BohnT wrote: »
    Biro123 wrote: »
    Sooo.. anyone tried Wyrd Tree? Wondering if the 15sec cooldown is too long for sloads.. and if its too indiscriminate.

    You can't purge sload

    This is a joke right

    Nope, it's really unpurgeable, uncloakable, unblockable and unmitigatable

    This is correct!

    Huehuehuehue

    The purge part I didn’t know, but I don’t play a Templar.

    It’s still affected by Thaumaturge CP right? People keep mentioning 800 damage, it should be hitting for around 1K.

    Isn’t that just a tooltip increase without affecting actual damage?
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  • glavius
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    BohnT wrote: »
    Biro123 wrote: »
    Sooo.. anyone tried Wyrd Tree? Wondering if the 15sec cooldown is too long for sloads.. and if its too indiscriminate.

    You can't purge sload
    Minalan wrote: »
    Daus wrote: »
    BohnT wrote: »
    glavius wrote: »
    BohnT wrote: »
    Biro123 wrote: »
    Sooo.. anyone tried Wyrd Tree? Wondering if the 15sec cooldown is too long for sloads.. and if its too indiscriminate.

    You can't purge sload

    This is a joke right

    Nope, it's really unpurgeable, uncloakable, unblockable and unmitigatable

    This is correct!

    Huehuehuehue

    The purge part I didn’t know, but I don’t play a Templar.

    It’s still affected by Thaumaturge CP right? People keep mentioning 800 damage, it should be hitting for around 1K.

    Doesn't really matter if it is affected by offensive cp. Because if it is, it's also affected by defensive cp.
  • Minalan
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    glavius wrote: »
    BohnT wrote: »
    Biro123 wrote: »
    Sooo.. anyone tried Wyrd Tree? Wondering if the 15sec cooldown is too long for sloads.. and if its too indiscriminate.

    You can't purge sload
    Minalan wrote: »
    Daus wrote: »
    BohnT wrote: »
    glavius wrote: »
    BohnT wrote: »
    Biro123 wrote: »
    Sooo.. anyone tried Wyrd Tree? Wondering if the 15sec cooldown is too long for sloads.. and if its too indiscriminate.

    You can't purge sload

    This is a joke right

    Nope, it's really unpurgeable, uncloakable, unblockable and unmitigatable

    This is correct!

    Huehuehuehue

    The purge part I didn’t know, but I don’t play a Templar.

    It’s still affected by Thaumaturge CP right? People keep mentioning 800 damage, it should be hitting for around 1K.

    Doesn't really matter if it is affected by offensive cp. Because if it is, it's also affected by defensive cp.

    How many people are running around with 20% in dot damage reduction though?
  • Ragnaroek93
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    Imo Sloads should disable the use of Harness Magicka, Healing Ward and Hardened Ward. Good sorcs will easily adapt by slotting Boneshield and Healing Springs.
    I used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.
  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    Imo Sloads should disable the use of Harness Magicka, Healing Ward and Hardened Ward. Good sorcs will easily adapt by slotting Boneshield and Healing Springs.

    Try shieldbreaker for that.
  • glavius
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    Minalan wrote: »
    glavius wrote: »
    BohnT wrote: »
    Biro123 wrote: »
    Sooo.. anyone tried Wyrd Tree? Wondering if the 15sec cooldown is too long for sloads.. and if its too indiscriminate.

    You can't purge sload
    Minalan wrote: »
    Daus wrote: »
    BohnT wrote: »
    glavius wrote: »
    BohnT wrote: »
    Biro123 wrote: »
    Sooo.. anyone tried Wyrd Tree? Wondering if the 15sec cooldown is too long for sloads.. and if its too indiscriminate.

    You can't purge sload

    This is a joke right

    Nope, it's really unpurgeable, uncloakable, unblockable and unmitigatable

    This is correct!

    Huehuehuehue

    The purge part I didn’t know, but I don’t play a Templar.

    It’s still affected by Thaumaturge CP right? People keep mentioning 800 damage, it should be hitting for around 1K.

    Doesn't really matter if it is affected by offensive cp. Because if it is, it's also affected by defensive cp.

    How many people are running around with 20% in dot damage reduction though?

    Not that many put alot in dot dmg cp either for pvp. Plus defensive cp scale better than offensive cp.
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