Opinions on Ravaging set in end game PVE

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Using the standard:
2 duel wield
3 jewellery (transmutate from healthy)

What you think? Is it only worthy on a stamplar?

I was thinking using it on nightblade as a stopgap until I get War Machine.

Edit here it is for convenience:
(2 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical

(3 items) Adds 1206 Max Health

(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage

(5 items) When you deal melee damage, you have an 8% chance to increase your Weapon Damage by 630 for 10 seconds. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.

xeNNNNN

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Using the standard:
2 duel wield
3 jewellery (transmutate from healthy)

What you think? Is it only worthy on a stamplar?

I was thinking using it on nightblade as a stopgap until I get War Machine.

Edit here it is for convenience:
(2 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical

(3 items) Adds 1206 Max Health

(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage

(5 items) When you deal melee damage, you have an 8% chance to increase your Weapon Damage by 630 for 10 seconds. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.

could work on a stamblade but idk for a stamplar, I personally think it would be better to run hundings as a stopgap but eh

do stamplars run TFS as well btw?

(im more of a pvp player these days than pve so im not 100% sure).

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

xeNNNNN wrote: »

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Using the standard:
2 duel wield
3 jewellery (transmutate from healthy)

What you think? Is it only worthy on a stamplar?

I was thinking using it on nightblade as a stopgap until I get War Machine.

Edit here it is for convenience:
(2 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical

(3 items) Adds 1206 Max Health

(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage

(5 items) When you deal melee damage, you have an 8% chance to increase your Weapon Damage by 630 for 10 seconds. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.

could work on a stamblade but idk for a stamplar, I personally think it would be better to run hundings as a stopgap but eh

do stamplars run TFS as well btw?

(im more of a pvp player these days than pve so im not 100% sure).

Is good on stamplar because of jabs. I'm not 100% what stamplars run, but Ravaging proc will carry over on backbar, unlike hundings would. It also beats out briarheart due to better cool down and more damage. But it's harder to proc than briarheart.

Sixty5

The uptime just isn't worth it TBH.

It does have some potential to combo with Arms of Relequen since that set seems to currently count as melee damage (it procs Selene)

But realistically, on most setups you deal at most ~10 ticks of melee damage per rotation at best, so your uptime on Ravager is going to be really low.

xeNNNNN

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

xeNNNNN wrote: »

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Using the standard:
2 duel wield
3 jewellery (transmutate from healthy)

What you think? Is it only worthy on a stamplar?

I was thinking using it on nightblade as a stopgap until I get War Machine.

Edit here it is for convenience:
(2 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical

(3 items) Adds 1206 Max Health

(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage

(5 items) When you deal melee damage, you have an 8% chance to increase your Weapon Damage by 630 for 10 seconds. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.

could work on a stamblade but idk for a stamplar, I personally think it would be better to run hundings as a stopgap but eh

do stamplars run TFS as well btw?

(im more of a pvp player these days than pve so im not 100% sure).

Is good on stamplar because of jabs. I'm not 100% what stamplars run, but Ravaging proc will carry over on backbar, unlike hundings would. It also beats out briarheart due to better cool down and more damage. But it's harder to proc than briarheart.

I would of thought the issue of sets carrying over too the back bar wouldnt matter next patch because of bows and other 2h weapons being counted as 2 set pieces.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Sixty5 wrote: »

The uptime just isn't worth it TBH.

It does have some potential to combo with Arms of Relequen since that set seems to currently count as melee damage (it procs Selene)

But realistically, on most setups you deal at most ~10 ticks of melee damage per rotation at best, so your uptime on Ravager is going to be really low.

What you think on stamplar with jabs? The 10 sec uptime go on bow bar, then proc again pretty quick I'd imagine.

Qbiken

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Sixty5 wrote: »

The uptime just isn't worth it TBH.

It does have some potential to combo with Arms of Relequen since that set seems to currently count as melee damage (it procs Selene)

But realistically, on most setups you deal at most ~10 ticks of melee damage per rotation at best, so your uptime on Ravager is going to be really low.

What you think on stamplar with jabs? The 10 sec uptime go on bow bar, then proc again pretty quick I'd imagine.

You usually use one, maybe two jabs/rotation on a stamplar. Using more and your sustain will suffer. I´m doubtful it will be enough to have a high uptime on Ravager.

xeNNNNN wrote: »

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

xeNNNNN wrote: »

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Using the standard:
2 duel wield
3 jewellery (transmutate from healthy)

What you think? Is it only worthy on a stamplar?

I was thinking using it on nightblade as a stopgap until I get War Machine.

Edit here it is for convenience:
(2 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical

(3 items) Adds 1206 Max Health

(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage

(5 items) When you deal melee damage, you have an 8% chance to increase your Weapon Damage by 630 for 10 seconds. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.

could work on a stamblade but idk for a stamplar, I personally think it would be better to run hundings as a stopgap but eh

do stamplars run TFS as well btw?

(im more of a pvp player these days than pve so im not 100% sure).

Is good on stamplar because of jabs. I'm not 100% what stamplars run, but Ravaging proc will carry over on backbar, unlike hundings would. It also beats out briarheart due to better cool down and more damage. But it's harder to proc than briarheart.

I would of thought the issue of sets carrying over too the back bar wouldnt matter next patch because of bows and other 2h weapons being counted as 2 set pieces.

The majority of end-game stamina builds will use vMA bow on backbar (the same way magicka builds will still use vMA destro-staff)

Juhasow

Tested it on PTS on stamsorc and stamplar on jewelery+weapons. Both had ~70% uptime which is pretty decent and definietly worth considering as one of the better sets for meta setups. Also in PvE jabs are not mandatory skill to have for Ravager to have decent uptime.

ll_Rev

I made a similar thread on the same thing, try it out for yourself and if you get 70 percent up time, it's worth it.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Qbiken wrote: »

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Sixty5 wrote: »

The uptime just isn't worth it TBH.

It does have some potential to combo with Arms of Relequen since that set seems to currently count as melee damage (it procs Selene)

But realistically, on most setups you deal at most ~10 ticks of melee damage per rotation at best, so your uptime on Ravager is going to be really low.

What you think on stamplar with jabs? The 10 sec uptime go on bow bar, then proc again pretty quick I'd imagine.

You usually use one, maybe two jabs/rotation on a stamplar. Using more and your sustain will suffer. I´m doubtful it will be enough to have a high uptime on Ravager.

xeNNNNN wrote: »

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

xeNNNNN wrote: »

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Using the standard:
2 duel wield
3 jewellery (transmutate from healthy)

What you think? Is it only worthy on a stamplar?

I was thinking using it on nightblade as a stopgap until I get War Machine.

Edit here it is for convenience:
(2 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical

(3 items) Adds 1206 Max Health

(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage

(5 items) When you deal melee damage, you have an 8% chance to increase your Weapon Damage by 630 for 10 seconds. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.

could work on a stamblade but idk for a stamplar, I personally think it would be better to run hundings as a stopgap but eh

do stamplars run TFS as well btw?

(im more of a pvp player these days than pve so im not 100% sure).

Is good on stamplar because of jabs. I'm not 100% what stamplars run, but Ravaging proc will carry over on backbar, unlike hundings would. It also beats out briarheart due to better cool down and more damage. But it's harder to proc than briarheart.

I would of thought the issue of sets carrying over too the back bar wouldnt matter next patch because of bows and other 2h weapons being counted as 2 set pieces.

The majority of end-game stamina builds will use vMA bow on backbar (the same way magicka builds will still use vMA destro-staff)

Thanks for info, seems it'll just remain a pvp burst set.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

ll_Rev wrote: »

I made a similar thread on the same thing, try it out for yourself and if you get 70 percent up time, it's worth it.

@ll_Rev what character was this on? A stamplar?
How was it on the other classes? Thanks

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Juhasow wrote: »

Tested it on PTS on stamsorc and stamplar on jewelery+weapons. Both had ~70% uptime which is pretty decent and definietly worth considering as one of the better sets for meta setups. Also in PvE jabs are not mandatory skill to have for Ravager to have decent uptime.

So I reckon it's better than hundings, especially with it carrying over to bow bar.

Juhasow

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Tested it on PTS on stamsorc and stamplar on jewelery+weapons. Both had ~70% uptime which is pretty decent and definietly worth considering as one of the better sets for meta setups. Also in PvE jabs are not mandatory skill to have for Ravager to have decent uptime.

So I reckon it's better than hundings, especially with it carrying over to bow bar.

Yep it is straight forward better. Even health bonus is usefull since You can go redguard with 7 medium and have 18k+ health.

Masel

The main thing why ravager has such a high uptime is the new arms of relequen set. It is considered direct damage, it also procs selene on every tick.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Masel92 wrote: »

The main thing why ravager has such a high uptime is the new arms of relequen set. It is considered direct damage, it also procs selene on every tick.

@Masel92 Any idea what kind of parses these get? Have you tested yourself?
Cheers

Masel

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Masel92 wrote: »

The main thing why ravager has such a high uptime is the new arms of relequen set. It is considered direct damage, it also procs selene on every tick.

@Masel92 Any idea what kind of parses these get? Have you tested yourself?
Cheers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxm-iH5LAAg

with 2h ravager on PTS

Runefang

Can it work with rapid strikes? With 2 casts of that it should proc almost every time.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Masel92 wrote: »

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Masel92 wrote: »

The main thing why ravager has such a high uptime is the new arms of relequen set. It is considered direct damage, it also procs selene on every tick.

@Masel92 Any idea what kind of parses these get? Have you tested yourself?
Cheers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxm-iH5LAAg

with 2h ravager on PTS

That's pretty sick

Juhasow

Stamplar parse with Combat prayer and Major Fracture provided by friend. 72% uptime of Ravager.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Juhasow wrote: »

Stamplar parse with Combat prayer and Major Fracture provided by friend. 72% uptime of Ravager.

Not to shabby

TheNightflame

@Masel92 does bloodthirsty with the 2h execute make up for rending slashes?