Patch 4.0.2 where are the combat balance changes

BohnT

Really Zos no changes at all for any class?
Why do you even want us to provide Feedback if you don't do anything at all?
I really want the game to improve but it just feels like wasting our time on the Forums discussing about Balance and poiting out huge imbalances

- DKs reflective plate is still useless
- Still no buffs for stamdk
- Magwarden is stil so meh while stamwarden is overperforming in pvp
- Templar has so many issues i can't even list them here all
- Shimmering shield is still way too cheap even with the cost increase
- Nothing was changed about Incap
- Zaan and the other overperforming procs are still carrying Players
- No changes for oblivion damage
- No changes to defiles in their currently broken state
- infused potion Speed glyphs are still way too strong
you could add counless Things to this list and yet nothing changed.

@ZOS_GinaBruno
Will we see at least some changes for classes and Balance Overall?

Checkmath

they said balance changes will arrive this week or later. it was unlikely to get them this week. be patient

TheYKcid

Still no 1pc stat bonus for the arena weapons (master, maelstrom, etc) to compensate for all 2Hs now counting as 2 set bonuses.

These special, endgame-tier weapons are now being outperformed by any generic 2H weapon when frontbarred.

Waffennacht

What about "nerp" do you not understand?

Well at least daedric trickery isn't as bad as before

Anti_Virus

Stop asking they don't care just accept these changes or move on to another game, they got your money and will keep getting your money that's what matters to ZOS.

NyassaV

Checkmath wrote: »

they said balance changes will arrive this week or later. it was unlikely to get them this week. be patient

I was told to be patient last week... Didn't work out.

Royaji

Class and abilites balance normally hapens on the third week of PTS... Why are we still not used to that?

Sandman929

I think a lot of players feel like there's a lot to be looked at and tweaked. Every week that passes it seems like that's not going to happen.

Anti_Virus

Royaji wrote: »

Class and abilites balance normally hapens on the third week of PTS... Why are we still not used to that?

This is the third week.

Turelus

People still expecting those single mythical "we balanced everything you wanted just the way you wanted" patch notes I see.

Rygonix

Turelus wrote: »

People still expecting those single mythical "we balanced everything you wanted just the way you wanted" patch notes I see.

Except the ONLY balance tweaks that were received this patch was a nerf to LA and HA. Nothing else.

Hutch679

Lol @ mag wardens. Ps. I main a mag warden...

Turelus

Rygonix wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

People still expecting those single mythical "we balanced everything you wanted just the way you wanted" patch notes I see.

Except the ONLY balance tweaks that were received this patch was a nerf to LA and HA. Nothing else.

Well y'all kept saying Nightblade did too much damage.

Chufu

Hutch679 wrote: »

Lol @ mag wardens. Ps. I main a mag warden...

Me too but I gave it up.

Royaji

Anti_Virus wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

Class and abilites balance normally hapens on the third week of PTS... Why are we still not used to that?

This is the third week.

I've meant after the third week. Balance changes come with x.x.3 as far as I can remember.

_Ahala_

Why do we Magwarden mains exist? Is it only to suffer? Every patch, we feel our lack of damage skills, stuns, snares, and execute and the good abilities we’ve lost...

Tryxus

_Ahala_ wrote: »

Why do we Magwarden mains exist? Is it only to suffer? Every patch, we feel our lack of damage skills, stuns, snares, and execute and the good abilities we’ve lost...

So we can put flowers on our own graves

_Ahala_

Not sure we can put flowers on our own graves... but maybe some kind stamden will do that for us when we are all gone

KingLogix

This means the 4th week is going to fix any issues the 3rd week notes may have had

Geroken777

Main StamDK here and I keep getting slapped in the face and it hurts.

Hutch679

Chufu wrote: »

Hutch679 wrote: »

Lol @ mag wardens. Ps. I main a mag warden...

Me too but I gave it up.

Bout to give the whole game up lol. Every patch it's an entire rework and grind. Then you get comfortable and they screw it all up again.

Twohothardware

I'm still waiting to see a single Race balance change after we've been bringing it up every PTS for over a year. Redguard is dominating Stamina builds in PvE and PvP both with all the changes to sustain during Morrowind and Argonian, particularly with the new potion cooldown reduction on jewelry, is going to be unbalanced as heck in PvP and as a tank in PvE if they don't redo the passive resource return from Potions.

Nord, Khajiit, Breton, and Imperial are all in a bad place right now and are noticeably behind the Redguard/Argonian meta.

Dreyloch

Not sure why anyone hasn't figured this out yet.

ZoS will release a garbage/broken/unbalance changed product. There will be no time to test much of it before it goes live. Then...when it does go live it'll be a cluster.... For everything in the game. Balance, Trials, PvP, sets, classes, all of it. All of it will have issues for the next year, and even then it won't get fixed. But they sure will get your money so they can just do it all over again.

I'm sorry if any of you are new. This is just how the company operates. They can do it too, because there aren't any other competitors right now. I won't make any suggestions. It's all been said. Jewelry crafting and 5-5-2 PvP setups are all I'm concerned with. That's all this DLC/Chapter/ripoff has to offer.Oh, and balance? C'mon guys, the game is 4 years old. Time for us to stop crying like one, and realize it's just never going to happen.

Anti_Virus

Dreyloch wrote: »

Not sure why anyone hasn't figured this out yet.

ZoS will release a garbage/broken/unbalance changed product. There will be no time to test much of it before it goes live. Then...when it does go live it'll be a cluster.... For everything in the game. Balance, Trials, PvP, sets, classes, all of it. All of it will have issues for the next year, and even then it won't get fixed. But they sure will get your money so they can just do it all over again.

I'm sorry if any of you are new. This is just how the company operates. They can do it too, because there aren't any other competitors right now. I won't make any suggestions. It's all been said. Jewelry crafting and 5-5-2 PvP setups are all I'm concerned with. That's all this DLC/Chapter/ripoff has to offer.Oh, and balance? C'mon guys, the game is 4 years old. Time for us to stop crying like one, and realize it's just never going to happen.

The best changes made imo

Xvorg

BohnT wrote: »

Really Zos no changes at all for any class?
Why do you even want us to provide Feedback if you don't do anything at all?
I really want the game to improve but it just feels like wasting our time on the Forums discussing about Balance and poiting out huge imbalances

- DKs reflective plate is still useless
- Still no buffs for stamdk
- Magwarden is stil so meh while stamwarden is overperforming in pvp
- Templar has so many issues i can't even list them here all
- Shimmering shield is still way too cheap even with the cost increase
- Nothing was changed about Incap
- Zaan and the other overperforming procs are still carrying Players
- No changes for oblivion damage
- No changes to defiles in their currently broken state
- infused potion Speed glyphs are still way too strong
you could add counless Things to this list and yet nothing changed.

Did you really expected balance changes? They just want to give us a reason to keep on logging into PTS...

Sixty5

They nerfed all light and heavy attacks, including 2h, which had already been nerfed

Press F to equip DW

Kanar

Dreyloch wrote: »

Not sure why anyone hasn't figured this out yet.

ZoS will release a garbage/broken/unbalance changed product. There will be no time to test much of it before it goes live. Then...when it does go live it'll be a cluster.... For everything in the game. Balance, Trials, PvP, sets, classes, all of it. All of it will have issues for the next year, and even then it won't get fixed. But they sure will get your money so they can just do it all over again.

I'm sorry if any of you are new. This is just how the company operates. They can do it too, because there aren't any other competitors right now. I won't make any suggestions. It's all been said. Jewelry crafting and 5-5-2 PvP setups are all I'm concerned with. That's all this DLC/Chapter/ripoff has to offer.Oh, and balance? C'mon guys, the game is 4 years old. Time for us to stop crying like one, and realize it's just never going to happen.

But we got dungeon weapon outfits in the crown store!

Ladislao

BohnT wrote: »

Why do you even want us to provide Feedback if you don't do anything at all?
I really want the game to improve but it just feels like wasting our time on the Forums discussing about Balance and poiting out huge imbalances

They do. But you don't see it. "Feedback" doesn't mean "tell us what you want and we will implement it". It means "say what you don't like, and we will gather your opinions, analyze them based on real game data and further plans, and if necessary make changes".

How many people, so many opinions. And only ZOS team understand what the game really needs at the moment. The experience of the past years demonstrates this very clearly.

Jhalin

ZOS is putting priority on cosmetics and the crown store crates instead of content. It’s been like that since Morrowind. Less content, more cash grabbing.

Subversus

Meanwhile sorcs are absolutely and utterly broken on the pts right now. The current iteration of rune cage HAS to go.

ak_pvp

Subversus wrote: »

Meanwhile sorcs are absolutely and utterly broken on the pts right now. The current iteration of rune cage HAS to go.

To be honest I don't even know how strong it will be in reality, it seems useful for a duel/gank situation only. Should never have messed with frags and the CC, it made an already annoying Xv1 class worse, whilst taking away strength from the unique/useful ability.

BohnT wrote: »

- Wings is still useless.

FTFY