PTS Update 18 - Bug Reports for Combat Balance & Abilities

Marcus684 · April 2018

SwampRaider wrote: »

Switching weapons while mounted and using the skill rapid maneuver and its morphs, dismounts you

More details. Rapid Maneuvers doesn’t dismount my DK (I’ve seen other reports that it’s class-specific), and swapping to Bow from 1H+S does dismount my DK, but swapping from Bow to S&B doesn’t cause a dismount.

pywackit11 · April 2018

After dying I can not spawn bear until I die again. I've tested the bug several times and it happens 9 times out of 10.

Kadoin · April 2018

I've already said this in the Nightblade feedback post, but due to all the clutter maybe its better placed here again:

For Malevolent Offering on Nightblades

The animation is buggy. Contrary to the "smart heal" changes, apparently you still need to directly have you crosshair on the target it chooses or the animation bugs out and it behaves more like a channel. You are stuck in an animation with your hand up and you cannot do anything. You have to block cancel to get out of the animation. This further lowers the value of the skill.

This can be triggered pretty reliably by aiming at the ground or empty space and spamming the skill.

The skill also stacks the health debuffs if no one is healed. This is the case because you cannot be healed by the skill. This is testable by spamming the skill with no one else around. I'm not sure if that is intended, but maybe the design team intended to only have the skill apply.

Ankael07 · April 2018

NyassaV wrote: »

Ankael07 wrote: »

Secondary status effects cannot be procced on damage shields. For example Lethal Arrow can apply defile to shields but any disease damage skill cannot proc defile. This also applies to Asylum stave's 100% chance to proc elemental effects

This is an intended effect

Also a lore friendly affect

If its indeed intended could you show me the moderator comment saying as such? Because there is nothing in game's help section stating that damage shields completely negate the secondary status effects.

Balancewise this would pave way for people to use the Charged trait or Asylum Destruction Staves.
Oh and I dont even want to get into the lore discussion because PVP combat system wasnt designed for roleplaying.

Ashryn · April 2018

Warden Bear ultimate is not generating properly. Seemed to be working alright earlier this afternoon, but was hardly working at all tonight.

Kadoin · April 2018

I already sent a bug report in-game, but in case its not seen:

Restoration staffs are broken, even with the crosshair on targets, or dead in the target's face:

Scenario 1: Cannot be properly aimed
Scenario 2: Cannot be channeled
Scenario 3: Do not return any resources back (probably because of 1 & 2)
Scenario 4: Resto heavy attack channel does not begin if started before the crosshair is on the target. (start in empty space, hold down attack button and guide the restoration staff over the target, restoration staff's channel will not work.)

I've checked and made sure it wasn't lag and I have asked others to try it out. They have confirmed this is a problem. None of these behaviors occur on the Live server, only on the PTS. This problem may affect lightning staves as well, it does not appear to affect frost or flame staves.

I actually think this bug may affect Templar Jabs as well. In order to aim the skill, you have to jab off-center or it randomly doesn't affect the targets(s). Perhaps this bug actually affects all channeled abilities right now except people aren't noticing it yet...

Zer0oo · April 2018

schattenkind wrote: »

The heavy attack target on lightning staff / resto staff is broken.

Destro staff on live: automatically going off when target comes in focus
https://youtu.be/kVQkG4RivLc

Destro staff on pts: not going off when started before target was in focus, not even after focusing
https://youtu.be/4QXwY5TPQbc

[I dont know how to embed this videos, copying the iframe links youtube generates doesnt work]

I noticed this too. I was wondering why my character was somehow stuck in a heavy attack without doing anything really, but i was pressing the heavy attack before i was really targeting the npc.

Derra · April 2018

Ankael07 wrote: »

NyassaV wrote: »

Ankael07 wrote: »

Secondary status effects cannot be procced on damage shields. For example Lethal Arrow can apply defile to shields but any disease damage skill cannot proc defile. This also applies to Asylum stave's 100% chance to proc elemental effects

This is an intended effect

Also a lore friendly affect

If its indeed intended could you show me the moderator comment saying as such? Because there is nothing in game's help section stating that damage shields completely negate the secondary status effects.

Balancewise this would pave way for people to use the Charged trait or Asylum Destruction Staves.
Oh and I dont even want to get into the lore discussion because PVP combat system wasnt designed for roleplaying.

I´ve gotten a reply from wrobel himself on that and it is intentional that dmg shields negate elemental effects. Can is quote PNs?

Mrakodol · April 2018

Sometimes the city guards no longer use light attacks and infinitely castout stun ability. From time to time they try to inflict heavy attacks. Usually after 2-3 minutes of such "fight", they run away on the positions.

NegativeVibes · April 2018

The new silver leash will automatically pull in targets hit with the skill. This includes players. Essentially, yoi can spam this skill on a player until you run out of stamina and they will continue to be pulled by you. A major problem is that it does not grant cc immunity to the target, thus allowing the pull to be spammed. Silver Leash is DK chains but actually usable. I really hope they add a cc immunity to it as the initial pull stuns you and does not grant immunity meaning a zerg of stamina characters can zerg you down with no way to escape.

Mystrius_Archaion · April 2018

schattenkind wrote: »

The heavy attack target on lightning staff / resto staff is broken.

Destro staff on live: automatically going off when target comes in focus
https://youtu.be/kVQkG4RivLc

Destro staff on pts: not going off when started before target was in focus, not even after focusing
https://youtu.be/4QXwY5TPQbc

[I dont know how to embed this videos, copying the iframe links youtube generates doesnt work]

I noticed this as well. This is very very concerning as this breaks those staves completely. It's not easy to tell sometimes when you should be firing a heavy attack but are not due to this.

Specifically, trying this on a sorcerer using boundless storm and lightning flood and blockade of storms makes it very very hard to even tell if you are firing your lightning staff heavy attack. I've run out of resources a lot more often with this bug than I should be.

WuffyCerulei · April 2018

Purifying light healing bonus only ticking once, as soon as the final damage tick goes off. Not healing for the 6 seconds as the tooltip states.

usmcjdking · April 2018

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Can we please get some insight as to what the combat team sees as the endgame for Werewolf for PVE? Like Is there even an end goal for WW enthusiast for some of the harder 4 man content much less 12 man stuff?

Mystrius_Archaion · April 2018

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

Purifying light healing bonus only ticking once, as soon as the final damage tick goes off. Not healing for the 6 seconds as the tooltip states.

WHOA!
That's a major problem. Templars already were more difficult to play, for me, after the Homestead/Morrowind sustain nerfs but this will really hurt.

Cinbri · April 2018

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

Purifying light healing bonus only ticking once, as soon as the final damage tick goes off. Not healing for the 6 seconds as the tooltip states.

WHOA!
That's a major problem. Templars already were more difficult to play, for me, after the Homestead/Morrowind sustain nerfs but this will really hurt.

It does healing properly but there is another problem that I hope is bug - reapply PL no longer proc healing pool, if target is died before PL explode - healing pool not procing either. This is indeed serious problem.

Mystrius_Archaion · April 2018

Cinbri wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

Purifying light healing bonus only ticking once, as soon as the final damage tick goes off. Not healing for the 6 seconds as the tooltip states.

WHOA!
That's a major problem. Templars already were more difficult to play, for me, after the Homestead/Morrowind sustain nerfs but this will really hurt.

It does healing properly but there is another problem that I hope is bug - reapply PL no longer proc healing pool, if target is died before PL explode - healing pool not procing either. This is indeed serious problem.

Sounds like how it used to behave.

rowanspring · April 2018

A couple of things I noted were, fighting the monsters in dungeons seemed to fall through the walls or the floor. Sometimes several would do it and then the next time it would be fine. Also when mounting and dismounting became very glitchy almost like a shudder. I noticed it when dismounting on the Camel and mounting the night mare horse. So far those two have been an issue. The mounts will go to a grid form, shudder and the frame slides to the left. Then it stabilizes and then you can proceed riding.

VaxtinTheWolf · April 2018

I am unsure if I should place this here or not but something I observed on the Live client is that Spiked Bone shield's damage return value of 33% is effected by Elemental Expert CP. I can understand it being effected by Master-At-Arms due to it's direct damage nature, but it does not benefit from the Mighty CP node. If that's the case, why does Elemental Expert effect this skill?

- Additionally, I believe the synergy from this skill should also grant the player casting this ability a shield 100% of their health as well.

Cinbri · April 2018

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

Purifying light healing bonus only ticking once, as soon as the final damage tick goes off. Not healing for the 6 seconds as the tooltip states.

WHOA!
That's a major problem. Templars already were more difficult to play, for me, after the Homestead/Morrowind sustain nerfs but this will really hurt.

It does healing properly but there is another problem that I hope is bug - reapply PL no longer proc healing pool, if target is died before PL explode - healing pool not procing either. This is indeed serious problem.

Sounds like how it used to behave.

no.

Mystrius_Archaion · April 2018

Cinbri wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

Purifying light healing bonus only ticking once, as soon as the final damage tick goes off. Not healing for the 6 seconds as the tooltip states.

WHOA!
That's a major problem. Templars already were more difficult to play, for me, after the Homestead/Morrowind sustain nerfs but this will really hurt.

It does healing properly but there is another problem that I hope is bug - reapply PL no longer proc healing pool, if target is died before PL explode - healing pool not procing either. This is indeed serious problem.

Sounds like how it used to behave.

no.

Yes, it does.
It sounds like every new cast is overwriting it, which was how it worked over a year ago, I think. If it is overwritten then of course the previous cast is no longer there to apply a healing pool.

Cinbri · April 2018

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

Purifying light healing bonus only ticking once, as soon as the final damage tick goes off. Not healing for the 6 seconds as the tooltip states.

WHOA!
That's a major problem. Templars already were more difficult to play, for me, after the Homestead/Morrowind sustain nerfs but this will really hurt.

It does healing properly but there is another problem that I hope is bug - reapply PL no longer proc healing pool, if target is died before PL explode - healing pool not procing either. This is indeed serious problem.

Sounds like how it used to behave.

no.

Yes, it does.
It sounds like every new cast is overwriting it, which was how it worked over a year ago, I think. If it is overwritten then of course the previous cast is no longer there to apply a healing pool.

1. Currently if you recast PL before previous exploded - it apply healing pool of previous cast. On pts it no longer work that way.
2. Currently if apply PL and enemy died before it exploded - it still explode into proc of healing pool, allowing to stay near corpse to get healing. On pts it no longer work that way.
Recap: bug or ninja nerf but this make skill much less reliable.

Mystrius_Archaion · April 2018

Cinbri wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

Purifying light healing bonus only ticking once, as soon as the final damage tick goes off. Not healing for the 6 seconds as the tooltip states.

WHOA!
That's a major problem. Templars already were more difficult to play, for me, after the Homestead/Morrowind sustain nerfs but this will really hurt.

It does healing properly but there is another problem that I hope is bug - reapply PL no longer proc healing pool, if target is died before PL explode - healing pool not procing either. This is indeed serious problem.

Sounds like how it used to behave.

no.

Yes, it does.
It sounds like every new cast is overwriting it, which was how it worked over a year ago, I think. If it is overwritten then of course the previous cast is no longer there to apply a healing pool.

1. Currently if you recast PL before previous exploded - it apply healing pool of previous cast. On pts it no longer work that way.
2. Currently if apply PL and enemy died before it exploded - it still explode into proc of healing pool, allowing to stay near corpse to get healing. On pts it no longer work that way.
Recap: bug or ninja nerf but this make skill much less reliable.

It's a bug. They definitely had it not apply the healing pool before when enemies died and patched it saying "fixed an issue where Purifying Light would not apply the healing pool when an enemy died while affected".
I remember that change well.

Cinbri · April 2018

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

Purifying light healing bonus only ticking once, as soon as the final damage tick goes off. Not healing for the 6 seconds as the tooltip states.

WHOA!
That's a major problem. Templars already were more difficult to play, for me, after the Homestead/Morrowind sustain nerfs but this will really hurt.

It does healing properly but there is another problem that I hope is bug - reapply PL no longer proc healing pool, if target is died before PL explode - healing pool not procing either. This is indeed serious problem.

Sounds like how it used to behave.

no.

Yes, it does.
It sounds like every new cast is overwriting it, which was how it worked over a year ago, I think. If it is overwritten then of course the previous cast is no longer there to apply a healing pool.

1. Currently if you recast PL before previous exploded - it apply healing pool of previous cast. On pts it no longer work that way.
2. Currently if apply PL and enemy died before it exploded - it still explode into proc of healing pool, allowing to stay near corpse to get healing. On pts it no longer work that way.
Recap: bug or ninja nerf but this make skill much less reliable.

It's a bug. They definitely had it not apply the healing pool before when enemies died and patched it saying "fixed an issue where Purifying Light would not apply the healing pool when an enemy died while affected".
I remember that change well.

Yes PTS Patch Notes v2.1 says:

So I hope this terrible bug will be fixed before it goes live.

Mystrius_Archaion · April 2018

Cinbri wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

Purifying light healing bonus only ticking once, as soon as the final damage tick goes off. Not healing for the 6 seconds as the tooltip states.

WHOA!
That's a major problem. Templars already were more difficult to play, for me, after the Homestead/Morrowind sustain nerfs but this will really hurt.

It does healing properly but there is another problem that I hope is bug - reapply PL no longer proc healing pool, if target is died before PL explode - healing pool not procing either. This is indeed serious problem.

Sounds like how it used to behave.

no.

Yes, it does.
It sounds like every new cast is overwriting it, which was how it worked over a year ago, I think. If it is overwritten then of course the previous cast is no longer there to apply a healing pool.

1. Currently if you recast PL before previous exploded - it apply healing pool of previous cast. On pts it no longer work that way.
2. Currently if apply PL and enemy died before it exploded - it still explode into proc of healing pool, allowing to stay near corpse to get healing. On pts it no longer work that way.
Recap: bug or ninja nerf but this make skill much less reliable.

It's a bug. They definitely had it not apply the healing pool before when enemies died and patched it saying "fixed an issue where Purifying Light would not apply the healing pool when an enemy died while affected".
I remember that change well.

Yes PTS Patch Notes v2.1 says:

So I hope this terrible bug will be fixed before it goes live.

Thanks for finding it. I gave up. My Google-fu is strong, but my forum-fu is hampered by the crappy search and no easy way to sort threads by date created.

SenorCrouch · April 2018

One thing I noticed is that when I cast Rapid Maneuvers and Charging Maneuvers while mounted it de-mounts me.

Sarjako · April 2018

Wrong thread sorry ;x

Narvuntien · April 2018

So I noticed a lot of the monsters are larger than the doorways in many locations (psijic, sapiarch, undercroft etc.)

My tank has low damage so I try to pull all the enemies together with the new silver leash and try to AoE them down. But trying to pull enemies through too small doors leads to a bunch of bugs.

Wuuffyy · April 2018

@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_EveP
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
@ZOS_BillE
@ZOS_GaryA

Bugs (please, please, please fix these)

AOE Dodgeables:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spr3qqfk3S4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-JOT9h04zc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YGG2D2zssk

Ability Mechanic Failures:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEuqYy9-uoU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq5o4yvkL9E

This Doesn't Make Sense:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCReyfy-2Ik

itsfatbass · April 2018

Rapid Maneuvers and all of its morphs will now dismount you if casted while mounted. I'm fairly certain this isn't not intentional, as nothing was listed in patch notes.

ZOS_JesC · April 2018

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