Fungal Grotto Loot Table - NO Viper Bow

pyrettasaphire

Ever since the release of One Tamriel and the implementation of the “smart” system that bases that Viper’s Sting procs off of melee effects has made it so that the Viper’s Sting Bow is no longer in the loot table for Fungal Grotto. This is not an RNG issue as it is no longer in the loot table! This is absolutely ridiculous.

redspecter23

You can't get the viper proc with a ranged attack anyway. Also you could put your second set in the weapon slot and use 5 armor pieces for viper as an alternative.

gp1680

I’m pretty sure viper bows were removed from Fungal several patches ago.

code65536

Not a bug. Since One Tamriel in fall of 2016, bows of the Viper no longer drop.

They did drop way back when Viper was a BoE set, though. I still have one, in fact.

pyrettasaphire

It should NOT have been removed from the loot table, that in fact IS an error.

For those saying it doesn’t proc, I already covered that, but reading is fundamental and I am not explaining my build to you.

redspecter23

pyrettasaphire wrote: »

It should NOT have been removed from the loot table, that in fact IS an error.

For those saying it doesn’t proc, I already covered that, but reading is fundamental and I am not explaining my build to you.

You seem misinformed. It was in fact removed on purpose. If you do want to share your build, perhaps the community could offer some assistance in making it work out for you. If you just want to shoot down everyone that's trying to help out and maintain an aggressive attitude, you're welcome to do that as well. We can't stop you.

pyrettasaphire

As a programmer, it should not have been removed from the loot table. Again, that is ridiculous.

My build wrecks house, which is precisely why I do not want to share it, as I do not want clones of myself to face in Cyrodiil. I did not say I had a character issue. This is in the “bug reports” for a reason. I have not asked a single question regarding my build, this “help” is unsolicited and off topic.

Truly, reading is fundamental.

redspecter23

pyrettasaphire wrote: »

As a programmer, it should not have been removed from the loot table. Again, that is ridiculous.

My build wrecks house, which is precisely why I do not want to share it, as I do not want clones of myself to face in Cyrodiil. I did not say I had a character issue. This is in the “bug reports” for a reason. I have not asked a single question regarding my build, this “help” is unsolicited and off topic.

Truly, reading is fundamental.

I'm reading everything you are saying. This works a specific way (which is intended). You don't like it, which is fine, but that does NOT make it a bug. By all means let those in charge know that you would like it changed back. That's your right to do so. The manner in which you're going about it currently is counter productive and won't likely help your cause due to your overly aggressive manner and assumption that because someone doesn't agree with you they must have obviously just not read what you have said. Accusing anyone who disagrees with you or actually goes out of their way to help of not reading is the poorest form of counter argument.

DoctorESO

Regardless of the reason for removal, no need to jump down her throat

N00BxV1

So it's impossible to run Viper jewelry, dual wield and bow. Sure the bow wouldn't proc it, but the bow on back bar with jewelry would make the 4th piece of the set. Well, good to know it doesn't even drop so I can scratch that off the list of things to get.

Apache_Kid

So when are they gonna get rid of the bone pirate restoration staves, the spell power cure bows, and the automaton inferno staves that always seem to drop?

The loot system in this game is anything but "smart"

Kram8ion

Ahh memories of viper bow procs of old cyrodil, praise be.

Trinity_Is_My_Name

Agree. Viper Bow should be in the Loot table. My build is incomplete as well. Mine is for PVE.

The_Protagonist

Kram8ion wrote: »

Ahh memories of viper bow procs of old cyrodil, praise be.

Sweet sweet poison enchant used to proc that set, loved it when it was all instant damage, Velidreth Widowmaker and Viper together were BiS, those sets used to crit doing massive damage in just a few lucky hits, Proc Viper on Bow and then change bar to proc Widow with poison pots. Ah the days of Proctatoes.

N00BxV1

Apache_Kid wrote: »

So when are they gonna get rid of the bone pirate restoration staves, the spell power cure bows, and the automaton inferno staves that always seem to drop?

The loot system in this game is anything but "smart"

pyrettasaphire

N00BxV1 wrote: »

So it's impossible to run Viper jewelry, dual wield and bow. Sure the bow wouldn't proc it, but the bow on back bar with jewelry would make the 4th piece of the set. Well, good to know it doesn't even drop so I can scratch that off the list of things to get.

With Summerset, two handed items count as two pieces...so again, the issue remains the same.

pyrettasaphire

Apache_Kid wrote: »

So when are they gonna get rid of the bone pirate restoration staves, the spell power cure bows, and the automaton inferno staves that always seem to drop?

The loot system in this game is anything but "smart"

This is the problem. It is the opposite of what they intend. Therefore, if the staves in Blackheart Haven drop, the bow should drop in Fungal Grotto.

I got a Warrior Poet resto staff...I was miffed given the excuse of why the Viper’s Bow was removed from the loot table. Clearly, it was an error, one that needs to be addressed.

pyrettasaphire

redspecter23 wrote: »

pyrettasaphire wrote: »

As a programmer, it should not have been removed from the loot table. Again, that is ridiculous.

My build wrecks house, which is precisely why I do not want to share it, as I do not want clones of myself to face in Cyrodiil. I did not say I had a character issue. This is in the “bug reports” for a reason. I have not asked a single question regarding my build, this “help” is unsolicited and off topic.

Truly, reading is fundamental.

I'm reading everything you are saying. This works a specific way (which is intended). You don't like it, which is fine, but that does NOT make it a bug. By all means let those in charge know that you would like it changed back. That's your right to do so. The manner in which you're going about it currently is counter productive and won't likely help your cause due to your overly aggressive manner and assumption that because someone doesn't agree with you they must have obviously just not read what you have said. Accusing anyone who disagrees with you or actually goes out of their way to help of not reading is the poorest form of counter argument.

The aggression is from those insisting they can “help.” My build is fine, was not the issue nor the bug. Yet again, reading is fundamental.

Apache_Kid

pyrettasaphire wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

So when are they gonna get rid of the bone pirate restoration staves, the spell power cure bows, and the automaton inferno staves that always seem to drop?

The loot system in this game is anything but "smart"

This is the problem. It is the opposite of what they intend. Therefore, if the staves in Blackheart Haven drop, the bow should drop in Fungal Grotto.

I got a Warrior Poet resto staff...I was miffed given the excuse of why the Viper’s Bow was removed from the loot table. Clearly, it was an error, one that needs to be addressed.

Yup I agree with you here. Why would the viper bow get special treatment?

redspecter23

pyrettasaphire wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

pyrettasaphire wrote: »

As a programmer, it should not have been removed from the loot table. Again, that is ridiculous.

My build wrecks house, which is precisely why I do not want to share it, as I do not want clones of myself to face in Cyrodiil. I did not say I had a character issue. This is in the “bug reports” for a reason. I have not asked a single question regarding my build, this “help” is unsolicited and off topic.

Truly, reading is fundamental.

I'm reading everything you are saying. This works a specific way (which is intended). You don't like it, which is fine, but that does NOT make it a bug. By all means let those in charge know that you would like it changed back. That's your right to do so. The manner in which you're going about it currently is counter productive and won't likely help your cause due to your overly aggressive manner and assumption that because someone doesn't agree with you they must have obviously just not read what you have said. Accusing anyone who disagrees with you or actually goes out of their way to help of not reading is the poorest form of counter argument.

The aggression is from those insisting they can “help.” My build is fine, was not the issue nor the bug. Yet again, reading is fundamental.

You clearly need the reading lesson. Read what I said again because you didn't do it the first time. See, I can say it too.

SirAndy

It used to be BoE so maybe just spent some time going through guild stores and see if you can find a Bow ...

N00BxV1

I can’t wait until the update when all 2handed weapons count as 2 pieces for a set bonus. I’ll finally be able to use my Burning Spellweave Bow and Sunderflame Inferno Staff!!!!1

N00BxV1

Can we get the Viper bow added back to the loot table if stuff like this is gonna remain? (from FG):


"Smart Loot"...Yeah right lmao

fred4

So you want Viper on your bow bar, but not the other bar? That's mighty strange. Or you want to go 5/1/1 heavy armor?

Since Viper was once BoE, I guess you could scour Tamriel Trade Center for such a thing.

Sun7dance

I think there was a big viper issue in the past, where you were able to get the former burst damage on your bow bar.

Maybe it's the same like axe bleeding?
If you just swap your bar fast enough, you can procc axe bleed with bow attacks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNA9sZr9a7s

But now it seems useless for me, coz gapcloser like ambush or crit.rush can also procc viper.
Maybe you should try sheer venom, but be carefull. If you change your bar to fast after firing injection, you won't get the dot.
You have to wait for the first dot tick at least!

fred4

I believe Viper used to proc from bow weapon enchants.

SainguinKrist

This thread is pretty funny. Complaining about something that isn't a bug, but claiming it's a bug, and getting snappy with anyone who corrects you.

It's not a bug. No matter how much you scream about it, it's not a bug.

ZoS has been working on sets/drops since 1T and some of that includes pulling stuff from the loot table that doesn't make any sense.

Sure there are still items that don't make sense but it's a work in progress. There are tons of sets.

Stop trying to make an issue out of something that isn't an issue and play the game. Change your build or don't. It's nobodies fault but yours if you gimp your build.

cbro72

The reason the bow was taken out is the 5th bonus will not work with a ranged attack. Other items sets that seem to have dumb drops can still work, like a resto staff of automaton. The automaton set will still work on physical attacks even with a resto staff.