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Rosveen

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

The Many Headed Talos is not Canon, as only a few select quotes were used in game, not the whole text.

Mental shortcut. The point was that the text (or part of the text, no matter) was obscure lore before it appeared in an official game. This isn't the only time it's happened, so outright rejecting the value of all obscure texts is a bit silly. Like it or not, the people who wrote them often influenced the Elder Scrolls lore in a major way and continued to do so even after they stopped working for Bethesda.

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

And Towers weren't Canon??? Huh??? You said that Nu-Mantia was also the first one to openly discuss Towers ?
The Adamantine Tower, Crystal Tower & White Gold Tower have been IN GAME since Arena and Daggerfall, and are the creation of Julian LaFey, years before Micheal Kirkbride even worked for Bethesda. And again, the Nu-Mantia is "Fan Fiction" and not canon.

Part of what I meant when I talked about unnamed concepts. We knew a few towers existed here and there, we could sometimes puzzle out their significance, but we didn't always know they were Towers, capital T, that they were falling one by one and what it meant. I could be wrong, but I don't think the game talked about it openly until The Prophecy of the Dragonborn in Skyrim. Same with Amaranth, which appeared as a concept a long time ago, but wasn't mentioned in the games until ESO. There are also concepts like the Dreamsleeve which appear in the games, but are explored in depth only in out-of-game texts. What to do in this situation? Can we consider these texts lore or not?

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

(The same guy who wrote that some of Tamriel's Heroes are from outer space and time travelers)

If he was the one who wrote those heroes in the first place (e.g. Pelinal), then I think his interpretation should at least be considered, even if not accepted as canon. And in case of Pelinal, hints about his nature as a time traveler are legit in-game lore.

Aliyavana

Rosveen wrote: »

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

The Many Headed Talos is not Canon, as only a few select quotes were used in game, not the whole text.

Mental shortcut. The point was that the text (or part of the text, no matter) was obscure lore before it appeared in an official game. This isn't the only time it's happened, so outright rejecting the value of all obscure texts is a bit silly. Like it or not, the people who wrote them often influenced the Elder Scrolls lore in a major way and continued to do so even after they stopped working for Bethesda.

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

And Towers weren't Canon??? Huh??? You said that Nu-Mantia was also the first one to openly discuss Towers ?
The Adamantine Tower, Crystal Tower & White Gold Tower have been IN GAME since Arena and Daggerfall, and are the creation of Julian LaFey, years before Micheal Kirkbride even worked for Bethesda. And again, the Nu-Mantia is "Fan Fiction" and not canon.

Part of what I meant when I talked about unnamed concepts. We knew a few towers existed here and there, but we didn't know they were Towers, capital T, and what their metaphysical purpose was. I could be wrong, but I don't think the game talked about this concept openly until The Prophecy of the Dragonborn in Skyrim. Same with Amaranth, which appeared as a concept a long time ago, but wasn't mentioned in the games until ESO.

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

(The same guy who wrote that some of Tamriel's Heroes are from outer space and time travelers)

If he was the one who wrote those heroes in the first place (e.g. Pelinal), then I think his interpretation should at least be considered, even if not accepted as canon.

Agreed, a lot of mks lore becomes lore becomes canon even if not fully