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Thanks ZOS for all the free crown crates

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  • Turelus
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    Zinaroth wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    If you got a legendary apex reward would you feel they're less bad?

    Whatever gets put in those boxes should instead have been obtainable in the game through various feats.
    Instead of a cash shop revenue they should have stuck with the subscription fee - this would have overall been better for the health of the game.

    I know you've become a Community Ambassador and as such are supposed to be constructive and objective to most things on these forums but crown crates are bad for the game no matter how lucky you are with the drops - there's no point being condescending about it and attribute his claim to him just having bad luck.
    Crates are scummy garbage and should go away, however having no cash shop and sub only wouldn't have been a viable business model for them with consoles.
    Console players already have to pay their online services fee, then to add a subscription fee (not something common for console games) would have kept a lot of people away from the game.

    There is nothing wrong with a Crown Store. It just needs to be well priced (and in touch with the games market [Motifs]) and not use sleazy marketing tactics.

    As for being condescending, sorry but every time we get free crates these threads come up. People being all snarky because they didn't get anything "good" regardless of the fact they just got at least 3x items they didn't have before for free (or gems if they already owned the item).
    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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  • Cadbury
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    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    Cadbury wrote: »
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    If you got a legendary apex reward would you feel they're less bad?

    Whatever gets put in those boxes should instead have been obtainable in the game through various feats.
    Instead of a cash shop revenue they should have stuck with the subscription fee - this would have overall been better for the health of the game.

    I know you've become a Community Ambassador and as such are supposed to be constructive and objective to most things on these forums but crown crates are bad for the game no matter how lucky you are with the drops - there's no point being condescending about it and attribute his claim to him just having bad luck.

    But people are basically complaining about the freebies they got.

    Free crates

    Because they suck. If someone gave you a free sample of cake, but it tasted like mouldy cheese, would you pretend it tasted nice, or be honest about why you wouldn't actually buy some?

    I'd simply say thanks but no thanks and be on my way. Also, show me where it says I must buy some crates after I accept the free ones.

    I'll wait...
    "If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."
  • LadyAstrum
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    Cadbury wrote: »
    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    Cadbury wrote: »
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    If you got a legendary apex reward would you feel they're less bad?

    Whatever gets put in those boxes should instead have been obtainable in the game through various feats.
    Instead of a cash shop revenue they should have stuck with the subscription fee - this would have overall been better for the health of the game.

    I know you've become a Community Ambassador and as such are supposed to be constructive and objective to most things on these forums but crown crates are bad for the game no matter how lucky you are with the drops - there's no point being condescending about it and attribute his claim to him just having bad luck.

    But people are basically complaining about the freebies they got.

    Free crates

    Because they suck. If someone gave you a free sample of cake, but it tasted like mouldy cheese, would you pretend it tasted nice, or be honest about why you wouldn't actually buy some?

    I'd simply say thanks but no thanks and be on my way. Also, show me where it says I must buy some crates after I accept the free ones.

    I'll wait...

    My point is that people can moan about them if they want to. I'm not, because I'm ambivalent to them, but if people want to express their displeasure at "free" pixel boxes, why can't they?
    ~ "You think me brutish? How do you imagine I view you?" - Molag Bal #misunderstood ~
  • DieAlteHexe
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    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    Cadbury wrote: »
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    If you got a legendary apex reward would you feel they're less bad?

    Whatever gets put in those boxes should instead have been obtainable in the game through various feats.
    Instead of a cash shop revenue they should have stuck with the subscription fee - this would have overall been better for the health of the game.

    I know you've become a Community Ambassador and as such are supposed to be constructive and objective to most things on these forums but crown crates are bad for the game no matter how lucky you are with the drops - there's no point being condescending about it and attribute his claim to him just having bad luck.

    But people are basically complaining about the freebies they got.

    Free crates

    Because they suck. If someone gave you a free sample of cake, but it tasted like mouldy cheese, would you pretend it tasted nice, or be honest about why you wouldn't actually buy some?

    To you they apparently do but whilst that opinion is shared by some, obviously more disagree else they'd be after finding some other way to make more money.

    I'm not a crate fan in particular. Most of the stuff I got was "oh...well" and I turned around, converted to gems where I could (which was most) and now have gems to buy something I really like.

    Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake
  • Eyesinthedrk
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    jazsper77 wrote: »
    The underlying problem with the free crates is it's designed to get you to (Gamble)

    It's exactly what PHILLIP MORRIS used to do back in the day in Urban areas. Leaving tubs of free singles on the counter tops in stores to hook people on smoking.

    Well, not exactly what Phillip Morris did. When I give $6 to Phillip Morris, I actually get a pack of ciggeretts. Not 2 lighters, three books of matches and a porciline replica of a pack of cigeretts.
  • LadyAstrum
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    DieAlteHexe wrote: »
    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    Cadbury wrote: »
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    If you got a legendary apex reward would you feel they're less bad?

    Whatever gets put in those boxes should instead have been obtainable in the game through various feats.
    Instead of a cash shop revenue they should have stuck with the subscription fee - this would have overall been better for the health of the game.

    I know you've become a Community Ambassador and as such are supposed to be constructive and objective to most things on these forums but crown crates are bad for the game no matter how lucky you are with the drops - there's no point being condescending about it and attribute his claim to him just having bad luck.

    But people are basically complaining about the freebies they got.

    Free crates

    Because they suck. If someone gave you a free sample of cake, but it tasted like mouldy cheese, would you pretend it tasted nice, or be honest about why you wouldn't actually buy some?

    To you they apparently do but whilst that opinion is shared by some, obviously more disagree else they'd be after finding some other way to make more money.

    I'm not a crate fan in particular. Most of the stuff I got was "oh...well" and I turned around, converted to gems where I could (which was most) and now have gems to buy something I really like.

    Yes, the second paragraph applies to me too. I get what I can, appreciate anything nice and accumulate the gems, but (I'm playing devil's advocate) why can't people complain? I don't like ungrateful people, but these aren't physical items, so why can't people gripe about them?
    ~ "You think me brutish? How do you imagine I view you?" - Molag Bal #misunderstood ~
  • DieAlteHexe
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    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    Cadbury wrote: »
    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    Cadbury wrote: »
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    If you got a legendary apex reward would you feel they're less bad?

    Whatever gets put in those boxes should instead have been obtainable in the game through various feats.
    Instead of a cash shop revenue they should have stuck with the subscription fee - this would have overall been better for the health of the game.

    I know you've become a Community Ambassador and as such are supposed to be constructive and objective to most things on these forums but crown crates are bad for the game no matter how lucky you are with the drops - there's no point being condescending about it and attribute his claim to him just having bad luck.

    But people are basically complaining about the freebies they got.

    Free crates

    Because they suck. If someone gave you a free sample of cake, but it tasted like mouldy cheese, would you pretend it tasted nice, or be honest about why you wouldn't actually buy some?

    I'd simply say thanks but no thanks and be on my way. Also, show me where it says I must buy some crates after I accept the free ones.

    I'll wait...

    My point is that people can moan about them if they want to. I'm not, because I'm ambivalent to them, but if people want to express their displeasure at "free" pixel boxes, why can't they?

    Sure they can! And others can offer their opinions and/or refute.

    Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake
  • Cadbury
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    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    Cadbury wrote: »
    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    Cadbury wrote: »
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    If you got a legendary apex reward would you feel they're less bad?

    Whatever gets put in those boxes should instead have been obtainable in the game through various feats.
    Instead of a cash shop revenue they should have stuck with the subscription fee - this would have overall been better for the health of the game.

    I know you've become a Community Ambassador and as such are supposed to be constructive and objective to most things on these forums but crown crates are bad for the game no matter how lucky you are with the drops - there's no point being condescending about it and attribute his claim to him just having bad luck.

    But people are basically complaining about the freebies they got.

    Free crates

    Because they suck. If someone gave you a free sample of cake, but it tasted like mouldy cheese, would you pretend it tasted nice, or be honest about why you wouldn't actually buy some?

    I'd simply say thanks but no thanks and be on my way. Also, show me where it says I must buy some crates after I accept the free ones.

    I'll wait...

    My point is that people can moan about them if they want to. I'm not, because I'm ambivalent to them, but if people want to express their displeasure at "free" pixel boxes, why can't they?

    Sure, it's their prerogative. But as @Turelus put it, this comes up all the time when free crates are announced. Even a fence sitter like myself can't help but to roll their eyes at the drama.
    "If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."
  • Turelus
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    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    DieAlteHexe wrote: »
    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    Cadbury wrote: »
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    If you got a legendary apex reward would you feel they're less bad?

    Whatever gets put in those boxes should instead have been obtainable in the game through various feats.
    Instead of a cash shop revenue they should have stuck with the subscription fee - this would have overall been better for the health of the game.

    I know you've become a Community Ambassador and as such are supposed to be constructive and objective to most things on these forums but crown crates are bad for the game no matter how lucky you are with the drops - there's no point being condescending about it and attribute his claim to him just having bad luck.

    But people are basically complaining about the freebies they got.

    Free crates

    Because they suck. If someone gave you a free sample of cake, but it tasted like mouldy cheese, would you pretend it tasted nice, or be honest about why you wouldn't actually buy some?

    To you they apparently do but whilst that opinion is shared by some, obviously more disagree else they'd be after finding some other way to make more money.

    I'm not a crate fan in particular. Most of the stuff I got was "oh...well" and I turned around, converted to gems where I could (which was most) and now have gems to buy something I really like.

    Yes, the second paragraph applies to me too. I get what I can, appreciate anything nice and accumulate the gems, but (I'm playing devil's advocate) why can't people complain? I don't like ungrateful people, but these aren't physical items, so why can't people gripe about them?
    It's fine for people to complain but it's what and how they're complaining.

    Complain about the drop chances? Sure, that's a good thing to talk about.
    Complain about the useless item padding? Sure, another good one.
    Complain about marketing tactics? Yup, that's a good one.
    Complain you got something you hate free and it performed exactly like you knew it would? Not so much, it's just venting because you feel cheated on something you knew was going to cheat you any way.

    Everyone is welcome to make on topic threads on these forums, but they also have to understand everyone is able to disagree and debate them.
    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
    "Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."
    The Great Forums Banning #NeverForget
  • LadyAstrum
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    DieAlteHexe wrote: »
    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    Cadbury wrote: »
    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    Cadbury wrote: »
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    If you got a legendary apex reward would you feel they're less bad?

    Whatever gets put in those boxes should instead have been obtainable in the game through various feats.
    Instead of a cash shop revenue they should have stuck with the subscription fee - this would have overall been better for the health of the game.

    I know you've become a Community Ambassador and as such are supposed to be constructive and objective to most things on these forums but crown crates are bad for the game no matter how lucky you are with the drops - there's no point being condescending about it and attribute his claim to him just having bad luck.

    But people are basically complaining about the freebies they got.

    Free crates

    Because they suck. If someone gave you a free sample of cake, but it tasted like mouldy cheese, would you pretend it tasted nice, or be honest about why you wouldn't actually buy some?

    I'd simply say thanks but no thanks and be on my way. Also, show me where it says I must buy some crates after I accept the free ones.

    I'll wait...

    My point is that people can moan about them if they want to. I'm not, because I'm ambivalent to them, but if people want to express their displeasure at "free" pixel boxes, why can't they?

    Sure they can! And others can offer their opinions and/or refute.

    Hehe exactly, that's all I was looking for. They can, and though it's probably a waste of time, I'm not going to feel upset if they do. Complaint is a form of feedback, even if expressed in a way that seems pointless.
    ~ "You think me brutish? How do you imagine I view you?" - Molag Bal #misunderstood ~
  • leothedino
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    I love ESO, and I won't deny i've brought crates in the past. As somebody with a marketing mind/experience... I can't help but see these (more than past) 'Free Crate Give-aways' as somewhat of a safety net against the loot-box drama (and potential laws) rising in many countries.

    Perhaps it's developers way to take ESO off that radar with a barrier of "but we also give them out for free"?
  • DieAlteHexe
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    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    DieAlteHexe wrote: »
    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    Cadbury wrote: »
    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    Cadbury wrote: »
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    If you got a legendary apex reward would you feel they're less bad?

    Whatever gets put in those boxes should instead have been obtainable in the game through various feats.
    Instead of a cash shop revenue they should have stuck with the subscription fee - this would have overall been better for the health of the game.

    I know you've become a Community Ambassador and as such are supposed to be constructive and objective to most things on these forums but crown crates are bad for the game no matter how lucky you are with the drops - there's no point being condescending about it and attribute his claim to him just having bad luck.

    But people are basically complaining about the freebies they got.

    Free crates

    Because they suck. If someone gave you a free sample of cake, but it tasted like mouldy cheese, would you pretend it tasted nice, or be honest about why you wouldn't actually buy some?

    I'd simply say thanks but no thanks and be on my way. Also, show me where it says I must buy some crates after I accept the free ones.

    I'll wait...

    My point is that people can moan about them if they want to. I'm not, because I'm ambivalent to them, but if people want to express their displeasure at "free" pixel boxes, why can't they?

    Sure they can! And others can offer their opinions and/or refute.

    Hehe exactly, that's all I was looking for. They can, and though it's probably a waste of time, I'm not going to feel upset if they do. Complaint is a form of feedback, even if expressed in a way that seems pointless.

    Where the "trouble" starts is when one side INSISTS that the other adhere to their beliefs/opinions.

    In the case of these crates, I have to believe they are worth ZMax having them available, else they wouldn't. Bottom line and all that.
    Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake
  • Prof_Bawbag
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    I buy 15 per season. Kinda been 'lucky' in the sense that I've obtained a fair amount of mounts, with one of them being a radiant mount (the dwemer green wolf mount), during the last few seasons. Currently have around 600 gems, so no need to actually buy any more this season as I'll get the mount i want and the silken motif book. I think we're now getting enough free ones that it's making less sense to buy many crates anyway.
  • LadyAstrum
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    leothedino wrote: »
    I love ESO, and I won't deny i've brought crates in the past. As somebody with a marketing mind/experience... I can't help but see these (more than past) 'Free Crate Give-aways' as somewhat of a safety net against the loot-box drama (and potential laws) rising in many countries.

    Perhaps it's developers way to take ESO off that radar with a barrier of "but we also give them out for free"?

    *eyebrow raise* interesting point.
    ~ "You think me brutish? How do you imagine I view you?" - Molag Bal #misunderstood ~
  • DieAlteHexe
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    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    leothedino wrote: »
    I love ESO, and I won't deny i've brought crates in the past. As somebody with a marketing mind/experience... I can't help but see these (more than past) 'Free Crate Give-aways' as somewhat of a safety net against the loot-box drama (and potential laws) rising in many countries.

    Perhaps it's developers way to take ESO off that radar with a barrier of "but we also give them out for free"?

    *eyebrow raise* interesting point.

    That is an interesting viewpoint. Quite. Cynical, but interesting.
    Edited by DieAlteHexe on March 14, 2018 1:02PM
    Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake
  • Turelus
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    leothedino wrote: »
    I love ESO, and I won't deny i've brought crates in the past. As somebody with a marketing mind/experience... I can't help but see these (more than past) 'Free Crate Give-aways' as somewhat of a safety net against the loot-box drama (and potential laws) rising in many countries.

    Perhaps it's developers way to take ESO off that radar with a barrier of "but we also give them out for free"?
    They're free to earn in most other games (Overwatch, Battlefont) and it hasn't stopped them getting any flack.
    Honestly I think ESO flies under the radar because the big people who are covering them (Sterling, YongYea, SidAlpha) are not really big on MMO gaming. It's also been in the MMO industry and become accepted here for some time.
    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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    The Great Forums Banning #NeverForget
  • newtinmpls
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    Xeven wrote: »
    There is absolutely nothing wrong with being grouchy. We were promised, all of us, no micro transactions..

    Hmmm... I don't recall being "forced" into any micro transactions.
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    Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
    Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
    Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.
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    House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
    Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis
  • Kendaric
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    I just do what I always do with free crates, I let them rot in their own "inventory" space. No matter how many free crates ZOS gives to me, as long as I can't turn any unwanted collectible into gems I won't open them.
      PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!. Outfit slots not being accountwide is ridiculous given their price. PC EU/PC NA roleplayer and solo PvE quester
    • Owondyah
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      Been playing online games for well over a decade...

      After buying a game, I NEVER felt the need to spend extra money on it. That includes buying these gambling crates.
      It's a lottery and I don't play it even IRL...

      There should be more incentive to EARN stuff, rather then to be/get lucky...
      Edited by Owondyah on March 14, 2018 1:16PM
    • Aurielle
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      The free crates serve as a good reminder why you shouldn't buy them in bulk (if at all). I'm not unappreciative of the free crates, even if they ARE a thinly-veiled strategy to get people to buy more... If I get something nice out of my free ones, that's all well and good. If I don't get anything, I bank the gems and maybe purchase 1-4 crates when a new season comes out if there's something in the 16-40 gem range I want. That's it. If the thing I want is not easily obtainable (e.g. an apex mount), I don't even bother because there's no point.

      Know your limits, and stick to them.
    • MyKillv2.0
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      Robvenom wrote: »
      After the 3 from this weekend and the 3 from the new level up rewards, I am now 100% certain I will never spend any money on those awful, awful crown crates.

      So thank you for letting me know just how *** they are.

      Salty are we?

      How dare you Zo$ not give me what I want for free, you greedy company!
      Voxicity wrote: »
      500k says you end up buying some
      This.
      Edited by MyKillv2.0 on March 14, 2018 1:19PM
    • Ley
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      I'm happy I got free crates but sad that I got nothing even remotely interesting from the crates. I think it's fair to say that every time ZOS gives me free crates it just reinforces the fact that I would never spend my money on them. I'll still participate in any event that gives free crate stuff though!
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    • SorataArisugawa
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      DieAlteHexe wrote: »
      Grouchy. Free stuff and still grouses. :/

      They don't give it for you for free.. it is a promotion... they want to make them interesting to you, so you buy them.
      Stop of being so illusional, they win far more than they "lose" with this "gift"!
      PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
    • Syncronaut
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      Well the law may catch up soon enogh. ESRB is not doing so well under all the pressure.
      Probaly they may change how we get those boxes like they did in china with overwatch (buy currency = get free crates), so they can avoid showing the % droprate.

      But i do expect the game market to crash greatly, once the laws are passed.

      Right now Ea games makes more money on *services*, then selling the games itself. Same applys for this game.

      Just a reminder:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_crash_of_1983

      I guess someone should make a skin mod for eso that changes lootcrates into Pride and Accomplishment logo. (if its allowed to modifly game files, if not just a icon like UI screen over the box)
    • DieAlteHexe
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      SorataArisugawa wrote: »
      DieAlteHexe wrote: »
      Grouchy. Free stuff and still grouses. :/

      They don't give it for you for free.. it is a promotion... they want to make them interesting to you, so you buy them.
      Stop of being so illusional, they win far more than they "lose" with this "gift"!

      They do give it to you for free and you're right, it's, as they plainly stated, a "taste" of what is to come. That does not negate these crates being free. Of course they want folks to buy them. I swear, it's as if people don't have willpower any more. "OMG OMG, they waved crates in my face, I cannot control myself and now I have to buy them!!11!!".

      And the word you meant is "delusional", more specifically "deluded". I'm not, I just don't fear myself breaking down and buying something I don't want to buy.

      Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake
    • jazsper77
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      Actually it is what Phillip Morris did, when the driver showed up and dropped off my grandparents order for their store he would leave a tub of singles on the counter top.
      Which were straight up free and intended to hook the neighborhood kids.
    • Tan9oSuccka
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      I’m not a fan of the practice, but I’m thankful for the free ones.

      I got the icky zombie skin.
      Of course I like steak. I'm a Nord, aren't I?
      -Berj Stoneheart
    • boombazookajd
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      These should be allowed to be traded, like cards. If you have a bear mount and I have a wolf mount, we can trade.
      Edited by boombazookajd on March 14, 2018 2:30PM
      Drathus Delenu- Dunmer magDk: Shehai Shatterer, Mageslayer, Stormproof, Peak Scaler, Clockwork Confounder, Orderly, Master Wizard, Cloudrest Hero, Undaunted, Dragonstar Arena Champion
      Thoronir Rolston- Breton petsorc: Stormproof
      Zaakazha-Redguard stamblade: Boethia's Scythe, Clockwork Confounder, Maelstrom Arena Champion, Dragonstar Arena Champion

      Scrubs:
      Justinius Maximus Decimus- Altmer magblade
      Agronak gro'Mashul- Orc DK Tank
      Valerya Hawkcroft- Breton healer
      Zaaka- Imperial stamDK/crafter

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    • DieAlteHexe
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      boombazookajd wrote: »
      ***snip***

      These should be allowed to be traded, like cards. If you have a bear mount and I have a wolf mount, we can trade.

      Absolutely, 100% agree with this.

      Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake
    • Defilted
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      Xeven wrote: »
      There is absolutely nothing wrong with being grouchy. We were promised, all of us, no micro transactions. We were promised a subscription only business model. We were told the game will not be F2P.

      We were all lied to and these free crates are an ugly reminder. ZO$ isn't in the business of selling a balanced quality game anymore. They sell digital swag and run an online casino.

      It's disgusting.

      The game is not F2P. It is B2P.
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      XBOX Series X

      #NightmareBear
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