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Are there no class abilities to use as a Stam DK?

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Pr0jectseph
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..it just seems that some class specs have ONLY magicka-based skills. Does that mean I simply can't play a stamina variant of those classes?
  • VaranisArano
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    Several of the magicka skills morph to stamina. You'll use Venomous Claw and Noxious Breath for sure.

    Use this or another website to check out the stamina morphs: http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Dragonknight
  • Apherius
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    Pr0jectseph wrote: »
    ..it just seems that some class specs have ONLY magicka-based skills. Does that mean I simply can't play a stamina variant of those classes?

    You need to play with weapon skills.

    I know that the stam sorc use the Hidden blade as a spammable.
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  • GrumpyDuckling
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    VaranisArano wrote: »
    Several of the magicka skills morph to stamina. You'll use Venomous Claw and Noxious Breath for sure.

    Use this or another website to check out the stamina morphs: http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Dragonknight

    "Several?" I only count 2 (3), with one ultimate:

    - Venemous Claw
    - Noxious Breath
    - Flames of Oblivion is still magicka, but at least it scales with highest attribute
    - Take Flight (ultimate)
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    All classes have some stamina morphs. Some have more than others, but only the Warden was designed to have a full stamina variant. This is because the game originally expected everyone to be magicka, so the original classes don't have full stam variants the way the Warden does. Therefore, most stamina builds also use weapon skills like Bow, Dual Wield, Two-hander, and One hand and shield to fill in the gaps.

    Not an exhaustive list of stam skills for each class, but just to give the idea
    Stam Sorc - Hurricane, Dark Deal
    StamDK - Venomous Claw, Noxious Breath
    Stam Nightblade - Killer's Blade, Ambush
    Stam Templar - Biting Jabs, Power of the Light
    Stam Warden - Cutting Dive, Subterranean Assault
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    How is this a problem? If you want to use the best skills possible, what about using weapon skills is bad?
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    GrumpyDuckling wrote: »
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    "Several?" I only count 2 (3), with one ultimate:

    - Venemous Claw
    - Noxious Breath
    - Flames of Oblivion is still magicka, but at least it scales with highest attribute
    - Take Flight (ultimate)

    Sorry, I play a MagDK and could only remember those two off the top of my head. Turns out there are only two.
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    VaranisArano wrote: »
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    Sorry, I play a MagDK and could only remember those two off the top of my head. Turns out there are only two.

    There is also molten armarments. And a ton of good passives.
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    GrumpyDuckling wrote: »
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    "Several?" I only count 2 (3), with one ultimate:

    - Venemous Claw
    - Noxious Breath
    - Flames of Oblivion is still magicka, but at least it scales with highest attribute
    - Take Flight (ultimate)

    Molten armaments has a stam intended morph, but most people use the magicka one and get brutality from elsewhere. There is also corrosive armor. Bit useless though.
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  • The_Brosteen
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    You misspelled "stamsorc" in the title. Although even then at least there's hurricane.

    Still waiting for crystal blast to be an instant cast stam morph :/

    Or at least a wind atro morph like dam
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    Venomous Claw, Noxious Breath, Flames of Oblivion, Molten Armaments, and Standard of Might.

    Basically, all stamina specs rely more on weapon abilities than class abilities.
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  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »
    How is this a problem? If you want to use the best skills possible, what about using weapon skills is bad?

    It's more of an issue how a class feels. If alsmost all your active/ offensive skills are from non-class skill lines, it just feels bland. Same with stam sorc.
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    HatchetHaro wrote: »
    Venomous Claw, Noxious Breath, Flames of Oblivion, Molten Armaments, and Standard of Might.

    Basically, all stamina specs rely more on weapon abilities than class abilities.

    This is the case, not saying it should be the case, having weapon abilities scale of the highest stat would improve versatility of builds, or failing that a close range magicka weapon line and a ranged stamina line that does not require a maelstrom bow to be competitive.
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    If your not breathing poison flames on your enemies, you are doing StamDK wrong!
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    All class skills start out as magicka, and relatively few of them morph to a stam variant with the exception of Wardens as noted above.

    But the blandness isn't limited to stam builds. All specs and rotations are mostly weapon and guild skills, with variety coming from only a few class skills.
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    Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »
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    It's more of an issue how a class feels. If alsmost all your active/ offensive skills are from non-class skill lines, it just feels bland. Same with stam sorc.

    i don't know about you but i have a stam version for every class, they all play a little bit different, i mean i don't even use caltrops on my sorc or a spammable on my dk, i use class spammable on my nb and temp, my warden is bow/bow and so on
  • Tan9oSuccka
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    Yeah. Unfortunately only two are worth using in my opinion: venomous claw and noxious breath.

    In PVP, Templars immediately purge/cleanse both DOTS.

    All you have left are weapon skills. Every other decent DK skill is Mag.

    DKs need a Stamina whip or something else badly.

  • smacky
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    I think it depends on what class you are planning to play as.

    There are plenty of people who play MagSorc, though they rely on stamina based abilities and therfore weapon based abilities more than anything.
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    Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »
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    i don't know about you but i have a stam version for every class, they all play a little bit different, i mean i don't even use caltrops on my sorc or a spammable on my dk, i use class spammable on my nb and temp, my warden is bow/bow and so on

    Yep, a little bit different. But enough to really feel unique? I, for one, feel completely different on my mDK than on my magPlar or magSorc. On my stam toons they just feel, I said it before, a bit bland. But that's what it is, feelings, opinions. No reason to dispute about it.
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