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Chapter II - announcement on Friday March 2nd during ESO Live?

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So Dragon Bones hits consoles in a few days. We already had the ESO Live two weeks ago dedicated to it and this week there will be another ESO Live on Friday.

Could there be a better time for the announcement of Chapter II or at least the "announcement for the announcement"?

Back last year they announced Morrowind before releasing Homestead, this year they will obviously wait until Dragon Bones is rolled out completely. So why not dedicate the upcoming ESO Live to Chapter II and the "Road Ahead" this year? Last year they said on 30th January that they'll announce something on 31st January. So why not this year a similar schedule? As far as we know they are still heading towards a Q2 release and we are already one month late compared to Morrowind.

So do you think ZOS will finally start talking about Chapter II (which most likely takes place on Summerset Isles) this week?
Edited by Seraphayel on February 26, 2018 8:43PM
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Chapter II - announcement on Friday March 2nd during ESO Live? 110 votes

Yes, they will announce it!
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No, they won't announce it!
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I think Chapter II gets delayed and won't release in Q2
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  • flguy147ub17_ESO
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    Could be a very short teaser trailer i think. But not sure there will be much info on it.
  • Stinkyremy
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    Yes, they will announce it!
    Yeah they will announce it soon. we all know it will be summerset isles, it basically said so in CWC, same as CWC was announced in game on another DLC questline, I don't remember which.
    They have also said in an official yearly recap post that they have big plans and more DLC coming this year
  • VDoom1
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    Yes, they will announce it!
    It is entirely possible.
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  • Elsonso
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    No, they won't announce it!
    Announce it on ESO Live? This week? No.

    EDIT: The might wait until the first week in April, for all we know. That is plenty of time to run a beta and still roll it out in 2Q, if that is what they want to do.
    Edited by Elsonso on February 26, 2018 8:54PM
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  • Sixty5
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    Chapter is probably Q3 this year tbh.
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  • Seraphayel
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    Yes, they will announce it!
    Announce it on ESO Live? This week? No.

    EDIT: The might wait until the first week in April, for all we know. That is plenty of time to run a beta and still roll it out in 2Q, if that is what they want to do.

    Q2 ends June 30th. To announce it in April and get everything ready, Beta up etc. within ~ 2 months sounds like a very tough schedule. For Morrowind they had ~ 4 months.
    Edited by Seraphayel on February 26, 2018 9:04PM
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  • Mitrenga
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    No, they won't announce it!
    I think we would have heard about it by now. My bet is on late March 2018.
    Edited by Mitrenga on February 26, 2018 9:10PM
  • Radinyn
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    No, they won't announce it!
    I would love to see it, but I think they will start social media hype first.
  • Vanthras79
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    Yes, they will announce it!
    @ZOS_GinaBruno I would love some nuggets!
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  • Acrolas
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    Every time there's a new Chapter thread, they push back the announcement by 12 hours.

    At this rate we'll be time travelers because we'll get the Chapter before the announcement.
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  • Vanthras79
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    Yes, they will announce it!
    Vanthras79 wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno I would love some nuggets!

    Ima tag Rich in here to. @ZOS_RichLambert, Gina has been busy today putting out fires and may have 100+ messages to go through. :smiley: Those CMs are troopers!
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  • Seraphayel
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    Yes, they will announce it!
    Radinyn wrote: »
    I would love to see it, but I think they will start social media hype first.

    As mentioned above, the "hype" for Morrowind started exactly one day before the announcement.
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  • Elsonso
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    No, they won't announce it!
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Announce it on ESO Live? This week? No.

    EDIT: The might wait until the first week in April, for all we know. That is plenty of time to run a beta and still roll it out in 2Q, if that is what they want to do.

    Q2 ends June 30th. To announce it in April and get everything ready, Beta up etc. within ~ 2 months sounds like a very tough schedule. For Morrowind they had ~ 4 months.

    Last time it was a combination of hype and the need to communicate a change in how they were doing content that negatively impacted ESO Plus subscribers. They don't need to do the latter this year, which is why we have not heard anything this year.

    Marketing only gets one chance to play this year, and they are not going to do it on ESO Live. PAX East is in early April, and the timing is good. That is when I think we will hear about it, formally. They could announce it on April 5 and have people in the PTS beta on April 9. That would give them 8 beta weeks to the first week in June. They could launch PC/Mac on June 4 and console 2 weeks later, or have PC/Mac sit around until June 18 or 25 and launch everyone at the same time.

    Edited by Elsonso on February 26, 2018 9:32PM
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  • LonePirate
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    No, they won't announce it!
    I am waiting for the announcement of the PTS being restricted for testing much like it was for the Morrowind chapter. There will be another invite only forum in all likelihood. I hope PC players have spent time using, testing and logging issues on the PTS during the past year.
  • ADarklore
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    Yes, they will announce it!
    Announce it on ESO Live? This week? No.

    EDIT: The might wait until the first week in April, for all we know. That is plenty of time to run a beta and still roll it out in 2Q, if that is what they want to do.

    The problem is, they need enough time to get it out to physical RETAILERS. Typical DLCs are not shipped to retailers to prepare and stock in stores, let alone sell collectible versions. All of this requires lead time and preparation, so if they intend to get it out for June, they need to start preparing physical retailers ASAP.
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  • Seraphayel
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    Yes, they will announce it!
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Announce it on ESO Live? This week? No.

    EDIT: The might wait until the first week in April, for all we know. That is plenty of time to run a beta and still roll it out in 2Q, if that is what they want to do.

    Q2 ends June 30th. To announce it in April and get everything ready, Beta up etc. within ~ 2 months sounds like a very tough schedule. For Morrowind they had ~ 4 months.

    Last time it was a combination of hype and the need to communicate a change in how they were doing content that negatively impacted ESO Plus subscribers. They don't need to do the latter this year, which is why we have not heard anything this year.

    Marketing only gets one chance to play this year, and they are not going to do it on ESO Live. PAX East is in early April, and the timing is good. That is when I think we will hear about it, formally. They could announce it on April 5 and have people in the PTS beta on April 9. That would give them 8 beta weeks to the first week in June. They could launch PC/Mac on June 4 and console 2 weeks later, or have PC/Mac sit around until June 18 or 25 and launch everyone at the same time.

    I would totally agree with you if

    a) PAX East would be a thing for non-American players

    b) it would be sooner than April

    Your arguments are good and marketing is and always has been a big thing for ZOS but I am still optimistic we will hear about it sooner. And if there will be another physical CE I think they want the pre orders starting as soon as possible. If it gets delayed and won't release in Q2 I'd say they will announce it indeed on PAX East as you said!

    And I think Chapters release simultaneously on every platform.
    Edited by Seraphayel on February 26, 2018 9:47PM
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  • Elsonso
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    No, they won't announce it!
    ADarklore wrote: »
    Announce it on ESO Live? This week? No.

    EDIT: The might wait until the first week in April, for all we know. That is plenty of time to run a beta and still roll it out in 2Q, if that is what they want to do.

    The problem is, they need enough time to get it out to physical RETAILERS. Typical DLCs are not shipped to retailers to prepare and stock in stores, let alone sell collectible versions. All of this requires lead time and preparation, so if they intend to get it out for June, they need to start preparing physical retailers ASAP.

    My timetable is more of a digital one, that is for sure. I am not an expert in physical supply chain stuff, but they are. They might announce in March, but one thing is for sure. They will make a production out of it and we will know it is coming days before it gets here.

    However, I do want to point out that a lot of behind the scenes preparation can be happening without them announcing anything to us.
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  • Smmokkee
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    So sick of this content release model. If they were smart they would change it.
  • Elsonso
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    No, they won't announce it!
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    I would totally agree with you if

    a) PAX East would be a thing for non-American players

    b) it would be sooner than April

    Your arguments are good and marketing is and always has been a big thing for ZOS but I am still optimistic we will hear about it sooner. And if there will be another physical CE I think they want the pre orders starting as soon as possible. If it gets delayed and won't release in Q2 I'd say they will announce it indeed on PAX East as you said!

    And I think Chapters release simultaneously on every platform.

    "Any port in a storm"

    If they want to announce at a show, then PAX East is the port. If they can't wait, then they make do with what they can. Historically, ESO gets the short end of the stick at these shows, so there is precedent to just make up something and slap it on the news page after teasing us for a week.

    I don't know if they will try a simultaneous rollout this year. They said that last year, then they did an Early Access Event for PC/Mac.
    Edited by Elsonso on February 26, 2018 10:02PM
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  • Acrolas
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    ADarklore wrote: »
    The problem is, they need enough time to get it out to physical RETAILERS. Typical DLCs are not shipped to retailers to prepare and stock in stores, let alone sell collectible versions. All of this requires lead time and preparation, so if they intend to get it out for June, they need to start preparing physical retailers ASAP.

    I'd say, only if there were a physical product, but even then... not quite.

    Any manufacturing would be completed prior to the Chinese New Year factory hiatus (this year, February 16 through March 2), so any physical items would be stateside or very near to stateside by now. The physical discs have no new media on them as all Chapter information would be downloaded with Update 18.

    So I don't see any timetable problems with a physical edition, if there even is one this time around. There's no rush to announce.
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  • WhiteCoatSyndrome
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    No, they won't announce it!
    Announce it on ESO Live? This week? No.

    Inclined to agree with this. The one after this week maybe.
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  • AdamBourke
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    No, they won't announce it!
    My estimate is next week, not this week - i think they'll leave a little bit of time for console players to play Dragon Bone before asking "What's Next?"
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  • Danikat
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    Did they say the chapter would come out in Q2?

    As far as I knew the only schedule they'd given was 1 chapter, 1 dungeon DLC, 1 story DLC and 1 free update each year. They never said they would be released in the same order or at the same time each year. They've already broken the 'pattern' by releasing Dragonbones (and dungeon DLC) in Q1 when they released Homestead last year, so I don't see any reason they have to release a chapter in Q2.
    Acrolas wrote: »
    ADarklore wrote: »
    The problem is, they need enough time to get it out to physical RETAILERS. Typical DLCs are not shipped to retailers to prepare and stock in stores, let alone sell collectible versions. All of this requires lead time and preparation, so if they intend to get it out for June, they need to start preparing physical retailers ASAP.

    I'd say, only if there were a physical product, but even then... not quite.

    Any manufacturing would be completed prior to the Chinese New Year factory hiatus (this year, February 16 through March 2), so any physical items would be stateside or very near to stateside by now. The physical discs have no new media on them as all Chapter information would be downloaded with Update 18.

    So I don't see any timetable problems with a physical edition, if there even is one this time around. There's no rush to announce.

    It would be a huge waste of money for the physical copies to be shipped out before the game is even announced because then they have to be stored for months before they can be sold. Storage isn't free - even if you already own the warehouse you need to pay for security, temperature control (even if that's just keeping it barely warm/dry enough that you don't damage the discs that costs money) and basic maintenance to the building- more likely you need at least a few staff to maintain it, take in deliveries, organise out-going shipments and keep track of where everything is.

    Stores are not going to take in copies this early because they have exactly the same costs for warehouses and usually very limited storage space in the stores themselves which they need to use for products they can actually sell, not ones that will be gathering dust for months.

    So ZOS have to pay for the storage. In the unlikely event that they already have a building with enough space to safely store all the copies that cost may be minimal, but it still exists and will eat into the profit from the chapter.

    It would make much more sense for them to arrange for the copies to be shipped shortly before release, so they spend as little time as possible sitting around and the whole process is cheaper and less likely to go wrong.
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  • Eddyble
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    No, they won't announce it!
    As much as I want to be optimistic on this, I had a feeling when they announced the plan last year, that there would be delays.

    •in Q1, a new DLC will be released
    • a new Chapter similar to the scope of Morrowind, will be released in Q2. Chapters are designed to be about 30-hours in length
    • a dungeon-based DLC in 3rd quarter
    • a new DLC in Q4

    I don't think appx. 1 month of dragon bones on console is enough time between the next announcement/release of content. Best case if it is announced at the end of march, tested for a month and released then we might see it at the very end of Q2?
    We shall see....
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    I hope they never announce it and instead make it a DLC like it should be.
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    Danikat wrote: »
    So ZOS have to pay for the storage. In the unlikely event that they already have a building with enough space to safely store all the copies that cost may be minimal, but it still exists and will eat into the profit from the chapter.

    Who said anything about ZOS? Logistics like that are a Bethesda thing.
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  • Eddyble
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    No, they won't announce it!
    Danikat wrote: »
    Did they say the chapter would come out in Q2?

    As far as I knew the only schedule they'd given was 1 chapter, 1 dungeon DLC, 1 story DLC and 1 free update each year. They never said they would be released in the same order or at the same time each year. They've already broken the 'pattern' by releasing Dragonbones (and dungeon DLC) in Q1 when they released Homestead last year, so I don't see any reason they have to release a chapter in Q2.
    Acrolas wrote: »
    ADarklore wrote: »
    The problem is, they need enough time to get it out to physical RETAILERS. Typical DLCs are not shipped to retailers to prepare and stock in stores, let alone sell collectible versions. All of this requires lead time and preparation, so if they intend to get it out for June, they need to start preparing physical retailers ASAP.

    I'd say, only if there were a physical product, but even then... not quite.

    Any manufacturing would be completed prior to the Chinese New Year factory hiatus (this year, February 16 through March 2), so any physical items would be stateside or very near to stateside by now. The physical discs have no new media on them as all Chapter information would be downloaded with Update 18.

    So I don't see any timetable problems with a physical edition, if there even is one this time around. There's no rush to announce.

    It would be a huge waste of money for the physical copies to be shipped out before the game is even announced because then they have to be stored for months before they can be sold. Storage isn't free - even if you already own the warehouse you need to pay for security, temperature control (even if that's just keeping it barely warm/dry enough that you don't damage the discs that costs money) and basic maintenance to the building- more likely you need at least a few staff to maintain it, take in deliveries, organise out-going shipments and keep track of where everything is.

    Stores are not going to take in copies this early because they have exactly the same costs for warehouses and usually very limited storage space in the stores themselves which they need to use for products they can actually sell, not ones that will be gathering dust for months.

    So ZOS have to pay for the storage. In the unlikely event that they already have a building with enough space to safely store all the copies that cost may be minimal, but it still exists and will eat into the profit from the chapter.

    It would make much more sense for them to arrange for the copies to be shipped shortly before release, so they spend as little time as possible sitting around and the whole process is cheaper and less likely to go wrong.

    Just to provide some official info, in the link it states their goal as quoted.

    "A new content Cadence

    Because we will be regularly introducing Chapters to ESO, we are going to make a small revision to our content delivery cadence, starting this year. We will continue to ship quarterly updates to the game – each with a base patch that has all the balance, quality of life, and bug fixes that you have come to expect. Additionally, we'll have a DLC in the first quarter of each year, a Chapter in the second quarter, a dungeon-based DLC in the third quarter, and a DLC in the 4th quarter. "


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  • SirAxen
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    I think Chapter II gets delayed and won't release in Q2
    If I had to put money on it, I would say early April around PAX time is when we'll get a formal announcement on the next Chapter. I'd love to see some nuggets sooner, but the PAX time frame makes a lot of sense.
  • Darkonflare15
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    I hope they never announce it and instead make it a DLC like it should be.

    No because I prefer chapter because then they release the content at the same time for PC and consoles. Also I prefer to buy the content. Not buy currency to buy content or buy a subscription that is limited on my platform.
  • JD2013
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    No, they won't announce it!
    Nope they likely won’t announce it on this week’s ESO Live.

    It’ll probably have its own separate announcement again.
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