Why 'DPS'? It's a 'DD', isn't it?

Ermiq · February 2018

Just curious. Here in ESO everyone says 'DPS player', 'DPS class', 'as DPS'...
Damage per second player? You queued as a damage per second?
It always've been a Damage Dealer, but in ESO it turned into DPS. Weird.

ZeroXFF · February 2018

I think that the usage of "DD" and "DPS" is a regional thing, and the reason it's mixed in ESO is because all of Europe is playing on one server. When I was playing WoW on German or Russian private servers, it was always called "DD", but when I switched to an American one (and later moved on to an official English European one), it was "DPS".

Diffused · February 2018

A lot of games use Dps also.

Rowjoh · February 2018

Both acronyms are valid and widely used in ESO

ak_pvp · February 2018

It stands for damage person sender duh.

/s

Minyassa · February 2018

I've never heard DD myself. Different games, I guess.

anitajoneb17_ESO · February 2018

Rowjoh wrote: »

Both acronyms are valid and widely used in ESO

No, the OP is right : calling a damage dealer a "DPS" is absurd and horrible. But it isn't the first nor te last time that the crowd goes blindly for the wrong thing.
Many people use "DD" in ESO, though.

Morgul667 · February 2018

Always heard DPS, never heard DD. As mentioned different games different habits

Sixty5 · February 2018

People have been calling the role DPS for well over a decade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtvIYRrgZ04

Gralor · February 2018

Players who call the damage dealer DPS instead of DD are the same ones who think TRAIL is the right term for Trial...

DPS is what you do, not who you are.

Morgul667 · February 2018

ESO_Blash wrote: »

Players who call the damage dealer DPS instead of DD are the same ones who think TRAIL is the right term for Trial...

DPS is what you do, not who you are.

No theyre not the same people :-)

DPS is the function. You do damage per second.

Anyway, potayto, potahto

Ermiq · February 2018

Morgul667 wrote: »

ESO_Blash wrote: »

Players who call the damage dealer DPS instead of DD are the same ones who think TRAIL is the right term for Trial...

DPS is what you do, not who you are.

No theyre not the same people :-)

DPS is the function. You do damage per second.

Anyway, potayto, potahto

So, we may call 'tank' a 'taunt'? It would be fine as well?
'Hey, taunt, use a taunt!'

Seraphayel · February 2018

Does it matter? There's no difference between DD or DPS.

(in comparison to Healer and Supporter - there is a difference)

Vahrokh · February 2018

The term "DPS" started being used in WoW. Since then, it has stuck as an anomalous but much used term.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · February 2018

Sixty5 wrote: »

People have been calling the role DPS for well over a decade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtvIYRrgZ04

Maybe it is like the hip young kid thing. Sure it is the same as DPS, but my dad was DPS and he is old and dumb and doesn’t understand the hip cool new ways of the DD!

joaaocaampos · February 2018

I'm a healer, and I can deal DPS (Damage Per Second) through Elemental Blockade. Am I a DPS?

Vaoh · February 2018

I’m surprised this is leading to so much debate!

The correct terminology is “DD”.... it really doesn’t matter though if called a “DPS”. In fact DPS is far more widely used in ESO to the point where many players don’t even understand what DD means. They think you’re referring to Dromathra Destroyer

Morgul667 · February 2018

Eremith wrote: »

Morgul667 wrote: »

ESO_Blash wrote: »

Players who call the damage dealer DPS instead of DD are the same ones who think TRAIL is the right term for Trial...

DPS is what you do, not who you are.

No theyre not the same people :-)

DPS is the function. You do damage per second.

Anyway, potayto, potahto

So, we may call 'tank' a 'taunt'? It would be fine as well?
'Hey, taunt, use a taunt!'

Are you taunting me ? :-D

Jokes aside, its just common habit and not an issue .

DPS is about quantity and duration, DD is about dealing damage only. I guess it feels right to emphasize on the fact the damage must be dealt quickly but continuously.

Cheveyo · February 2018

DPS is your job.

The higher the dps, the better you're doing your job. Getting big numbers every few seconds isn't doing your job, but you can still be considered a "damage dealer" when you do that.

fierackas · February 2018

Vahrokh wrote: »

The term "DPS" started being used in WoW. Since then, it has stuck as an anomalous but much used term.

Actually it predates WoW as I remember it from Everquest where you had tank classes, healing classes and dps classes.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · February 2018

Eremith wrote: »

Morgul667 wrote: »

ESO_Blash wrote: »

Players who call the damage dealer DPS instead of DD are the same ones who think TRAIL is the right term for Trial...

DPS is what you do, not who you are.

No theyre not the same people :-)

DPS is the function. You do damage per second.

Anyway, potayto, potahto

So, we may call 'tank' a 'taunt'? It would be fine as well?
'Hey, taunt, use a taunt!'

They are a tank because they tank damage. A healer is a healer because they heal. A dps is a dps because that is what they do, dps. Seems pretty consistent across the board.

Bevik · February 2018

It is DD atleast in that game where I came from.

Gythral · February 2018

DPS has been used for damage dealers since the dawn of MMOs
same as the game series has always be called TES
until ESO

but why care? most know what is meant by either DPS or DD
same as almost everyone refers to a 'meat shield' as a tank

Shanjijri · February 2018

ESO_Blash wrote: »

DPS is what you do, not who you are.

^This.
Or I'm a HPS, not a healer.

Cheveyo · February 2018

Griffe wrote: »

ESO_Blash wrote: »

DPS is what you do, not who you are.

^This.
Or I'm a HPS, not a healer.

That would be because how well you're doing isn't being judged by how much HP you heal per second. Instead, you're being judged on being able to keep your team alive.

A DPS is being judged by how much damage they do a second. Therefore, they are DPS.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · February 2018

Griffe wrote: »

ESO_Blash wrote: »

DPS is what you do, not who you are.

^This.
Or I'm a HPS, not a healer.

You might be if people actually measured hps as a thing. But if we go by this example both DD and Dps are wrong. They should just be damage. Like a healer.

Tommy_The_Gun · February 2018

Eremith wrote: »

Just curious. Here in ESO everyone says 'DPS player', 'DPS class', 'as DPS'...
Damage per second player? You queued as a damage per second?
It always've been a Damage Dealer, but in ESO it turned into DPS. Weird.

DPS = Damage per second.
This is very confusing especially for new players. Overall it means how much Damage your character can do. However even when it comes to different add-ons that tells you how much "DPS" you can do it is always measured for longer time than "one" second. This means that even if you have lets say 30K DPS - it does not mean you will be able to deal 30K in "one" second or even "per" second. It is only a theoretical, abstract value.

And don't forget that we have a 2 scenarios here:
- Sustained DPS (the constant dmg - mostly for PvE dungeons).
- Burst DPS (dealing A LOT of dmg for a short period of time and then being on "cooldown" - mostly for PvP content).

ninibini · February 2018

I've noticed that DPS is more commonly used on the NA server, while on EU it's mostly DD.

Just as interesting - on NA people type x to join a group and on EU it's +

anitajoneb17_ESO · February 2018

Gythral wrote: »

but why care? most know what is meant by either DPS or DD

Just because everyone got "used to it" and understand what's meant doesn't make it correct.
DPS is not "what you do". What you do is deal damage (hence "Damage dealer" is correct").
DPS is a measurement unit.

Calling a DD a "DPS" is like calling a car a "MPH". Or "KMPH".

Ermiq · February 2018

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

Griffe wrote: »

ESO_Blash wrote: »

DPS is what you do, not who you are.

^This.
Or I'm a HPS, not a healer.

You might be if people actually measured hps as a thing. But if we go by this example both DD and Dps are wrong. They should just be damage. Like a healer.

Nope. If DD/DPS was a 'damage', than healer would be a 'heal'.

Cheveyo wrote: »

Griffe wrote: »

ESO_Blash wrote: »

DPS is what you do, not who you are.

^This.
Or I'm a HPS, not a healer.

That would be because how well you're doing isn't being judged by how much HP you heal per second. Instead, you're being judged on being able to keep your team alive.

A DPS is being judged by how much damage they do a second. Therefore, they are DPS.

I see this another way. It's all about roles in a group. Tank 'tanks' enemies, he does crowd control, taunt and absorbs damage. Healer heals, protects (with shields) and supports (depends on a game and class mechanics). Damage dealer deals damage (high DPS - good damage dealer, low DPS - bad damage dealer, but still his role in a group is damage dealer).

drkfrontiers · February 2018

Geeks - gotta love them. Bless their geeky little hearts.

The Elder Scrolls Online

Why 'DPS'? It's a 'DD', isn't it?

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