The only thing missing for class balance is a Nightblade nerf.

Azurya · February 2018

to give yourself the nick "Knowledge" is real mockery, that first said.
the most nerfed class in ESO is certainly nightblade
nightblades got the first and deepest nerfs alover and that caused them to learn earlier to react it, to find more ways to play that class
even in the latest downgrade this class got hit with a new nerf,
DK got a nerf in one skill, like templar, just the sorc did not got any nerf at all, once again.

now we all know that the "balancing" the devs do, is not something to win a nobel-prize with.
talking about stamina, we see less stam-builds in dungeons and trials
go in any city and you just staves to the horizon
note your deaths in PvP, I die most by magicka-abilities, class-based and weapon-based or light-armour based.
after 3 campaigns noting my deaths it is confirmed (for me) that I die mostly due to magsorc abilities.

so yeah, imho, this thread is a fail, just like balancing in ESO.

altemriel · February 2018

you seem to not know the history of NB nerfs (and now finaly this class is ok)...learn to play!!!

Qbiken · February 2018

Personally I would like to see a nerf to the vMA bow. It´s insane how much DPS it adds to a stamina build. vMA destro-staff or Asylum destro doesn´t add close to the same amount of DPS as the bow does.

Regarding stamblade and magblade, I think the introduction of Master Architect and Warmachine did a lot to their DPS-output.
Also magblade feels more like FotM due to their effectiveness in Asylum Sanctorium where ranged builds are more favourable than melee ones.

JobooAGS · February 2018

Leave nightblade alone, buff other classes

TheKingofSass · February 2018

❝The only thing missing for class balance is a Nightblade nerf.
When you take into account the Sorc, DK, Templar, and Warden they all feel roughly on par with each other or just needing a If they were brought down significantly while the other classes continued to receive minor tuning the game would be in a much better place balance wise.
balance, nerf, feeels roughly, NERF❞

Or, maybe, idk, buff up the other classes, instead nerfing??? JUST A THOUGHT.

And NB at a bad spot? Seriously, big LOL. There was a time, yes, that they were in a bad spot, but now they're finally in a good place, thank heaven sake. NB has been my first picked class from beta to release, always will be my main.

Were they in a bad spot? Ye boi. Are they now? Naw, son. Good sustain, nice utility and if done right, good dd output (NB has more complex rotations compared with other classes and is far less forgiving if making a mistake with weaving and rotating. Just saying).

TL:DR
Stop crying for nerfs on classes cause you likely got butt pampered by a class in pvp.
Don't drown me in your river of nerf-tears, instead, resurrect my corny-arse with Buff roars.

TequilaFire · February 2018

Please close this baiting, trolling thread.

Pink_Violinz · February 2018

Good lord stop. You have been making a thread every hour, complaining about this or that. Have you ever played a stamblade in PvE? They're one of the least used classes.

Blackleopardex · February 2018

Sounds like someone got ganked in pvp...

Sav72 · February 2018

OP, your a Troll...

What You cant use Miats Hack anymore?

You pissed, at a class being played the way it was designed to?

zaria · February 2018

Nerf request should have an cost 50 CP had been fitting

nihirisutou · February 2018

Hands off my pretty Night Blades

Silver_Strider · February 2018

I can name a plethora of group utility that other classes bring to the table. I can name only Minor Savagery as a NB group buff though.

NBs have worse AoE damage than a Sorc, have none of the group utility that DKs, Templars or Wardens offer, questionable sustain, no shields and only HoTs as a means of survival. Apart from their damage, there is NOTHING a NB brings to the group so unless NBs get some serious buffs elsewhere, I see absolutely nothing wrong with NBs having high damage as they are falling flat everywhere else.

The_Brosteen · February 2018

Vague nerf post is vague.

BigBadVolk · February 2018

It begins

Tan9oSuccka · February 2018

Nightblades are fine. This sounds like a PVP crying post.

I personally think most of the classes are pretty well balanced except Stam Warden and to a lesser degree, Mag Sorcerer.

Icy_Waffles · February 2018

You clearly are not aware... should we tell him?

Dymence · February 2018

You really go out of your way to make a dumb ass thread every day huh?

Mic1007 · February 2018

These threads...
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starkerealm · February 2018

Back in 2014, when this thread was relevant.

Minalan · February 2018

I wish the ‘nerf Sorc!’ Threads were met with this kind of vitriol!

the_man_of_steal · February 2018

This must be a troll post... Stamblade and Magblade have gone through significant nerfs throughout ESO's history. They are both the most nerfed class in the game. The ONLY skill that you might have an argument to tweak is Incap. Bear in mind, Magblades have been so atrocious, the most common Ulti used by them is Incap.

Please refrain yourself from calling for any kind of nerfs. Nothing will ever be truly balanced and every time ZOS has made a nerf, they go way too far. See: Mag DK or Frag Sorc, or Magplar, or Bomb-blade, or Wrath Heavy Armor...etc

Apache_Kid · February 2018

Troll thread, moving on.

OdinForge · February 2018

They are met with this much vitriol. Both confuse their enemies, both have insane burst capabilities. Just trade cloak for shield stacking, if you play both classes you realize that the people who hate you hate both.

Cenom · February 2018

For sure Nightblades are the new Sorcerers from One Tamriel but improved... Even the game play is easier now, and no other magicka class can come close. Every class can barelly hit 33k self on 6m skeleton... Nbs can hit 41k...

LordSemaj · February 2018

You're not describing OP Nightblades. You're merely not understanding what each class is best at and why the Nightblade role plays so well into a PVP environment. Were it not nightblades that you found broken it would be some other class that next best mimics this role.

Nightblades are bursters. Assassin combo killers with crit focus who ambush from stealth where other players might feel exposed and unprepared. Burst damage is good in pvp, combos and crits and ambushing are all effective, and players get overly emotional when they fail to react to unplanned circumstances and die as a result of it. Whether they are running bomb builds or sniping or doing incap strikes, Nightblades will deal a lot of damage in a very short period of time and make them feel like they're way too strong when really the victim failed make use of any countermeasures. If the victim is lagging, this can also make the feeling worse as the victim feels there is nothing they could have done about it. This is not the Nightblade's fault as even if the Nightblade did not exist as a class the next best lag burster would be complained about instead.

Surviving the initial burst rids the Nightblade of most of their advantages and allows the player to turn the tables but since Nightblades always begin a battle from a point of Advantage, players assume there is nothing that can be done to turn the tables. This is incorrect thinking and this topic explains in some posts why that is and what can be done about it. Players who are used to thinking proactively and carefully determining their rotations or impulsively maintaining high health totals are cast into a mild state of panic when engaged with someone who demands reactive thinking and recovering from a disadvantage. Remaining calm and employing the countermeasures that you possess is the one and only remedy to this predicament should you choose to not repeatedly die to them.

Kuramas9tails · February 2018

Stop.

Play a stamblade. Try it in PVE and PVP. You have no shields. You have no instant healing. You are squishy af. It is considered one of the hardest classes to play PVE end game wise. Stop asking for nerfs on a class you don't play and don't understand.

Mageblade?

I am bias because that has always been my class and still my favorite and main. My Magic Sorc out DPS my Mageblade. My Magic Sorc also has better shield and healing than my Mageblade so where you get this idea that Mageblades need a nerf is beyond my scope. The only thing my Mageblade does better than my Magic Sorc is resource management.

DeadlyRecluse · February 2018

It's really the specificity and detailed explanation in this analysis that makes it so compelling.

Undefwun · February 2018

ZOS needs to fix this guy's forum name... how bout "Has-No-Clue-But-Likes-To-Run-His-Mouth"...

Never sure if actually serious or troll....

Wrubius_Coronaria · February 2018

You know nothing knowledge.

Seriously, every class played correctly is powerfull. And the balance is quite good too actually. Zenimax did a really good job for balance.
The biggest difference now is the person behind the screen and the builds. Otherwise, nightblades are not more powerfull than others classes.

But what in your opinion make them so strong?

supaskrub · February 2018

The title has me howling with laughter.. I had to look twice, I've not seen a decent nerf thread in ages (not that this is a decent nerf thread of course)