Should forum access require ESO+?

Knowledge

I think ESO+ should include the ability to post on the forums. This not only further incentivizes being an ESO Plus member but it will clean up the forums a great deal. There's quite a bit of players with only a copy of the game that have no desire to further support Zenimax and I feel like forum use should be a privilege.

Aliyavana

No, players can show their loyalty through crown crates and other transactions and a player may want to voice their opinions on why they do not give zos their money for eso plus and may give suggestions to improve it so that they can consider getting eso plus.

Mureel

I feel like that would definitely lessen the QQ - but the forums are really the only way to find/ask for info, so it's also a NO from me

Aliyavana

Mureel wrote: »

I feel like that would definitely lessen the QQ - but the forums are really the only way to find/ask for info, so it's also a NO from me

This too, a new player may ask simple questions and among them if eso plus is worth getting

Dragonnord

And so can't read/listen to more than half of the community? I don't think so.
 

SydneyGrey

It would be awful for new players who want to try the game out first before they consider getting a subscription. They're excited about the game, and want to learn more about it, but would be banned from the forums? I was one of those noobs once. I played for a couple of months before I actually got a subscription, and have been subbed ever since.

It's also not fair to players who love the game, but who don't have the money for a subscription.

AlienatedGoat

I'd rather ZOS add something new to ESO+ that doesn't involve gimping or taking something away from non-subbers.

It just seems shady and cheap every time they resort to that, and doesn't make me appreciate my sub more. Instead I just resent their methods of adding "value". And I say this as a lifetime subber.

Mertica

This is actually a terrible idea...

MinarasLaure

Too p2w

Knowledge

I think new players should be able to read the forums but without ESO+ there should be no posting privileges.

LordGavus

Nah. Buying the game is good enough to get access. Everyone who plays the game should be able to voice their opinions.

red_emu

Why not make forums available only for people with 1000CP and 85k DPS? Because elitism is soooo trendy here.

AlienatedGoat

MinarasLaure wrote: »

Too p2w

More like pay-to-lose.

Some of the crap posted to these forums makes me genuinely worry for the future of mankind (and goatkind too).

altemriel

lol, nope

KitLightning

2/10 Troll Topic

TheCyberDruid

KitLightning wrote: »

2/10 Troll Topic

My thoughts exactly. Very weak bait and underwhelming execution.

Tasear

Seriously what in *** are you thinking.

Knowledge

Tasear wrote: »

This why freedom of speech is the first Amendment

The First Amendment doesn't protect you on private forums.

Knowledge

TheCyberDruid wrote: »

KitLightning wrote: »

2/10 Troll Topic

My thoughts exactly. Very weak bait and underwhelming execution.

I am being genuine and I think the forums get a lot of QQ spam and unnecessary posts from people not truly devoted to the game.

Beardimus

See what you are trying to achieve @Knowledge but this place is way to liberal for that. I can see what you are saying, multiple people that seeming hate the game and have 'quit' yet still come here daily and comment / steer things.

But asking questions is too valuable to new players for this to be an asset.

However an ESO+ members area might give you what you are after. Active / dedicated players discussion.

Mureel

Phage wrote: »

MinarasLaure wrote: »

Too p2w

More like pay-to-lose.

Some of the crap posted to these forums makes me genuinely worry for the future of mankind (and goatkind too).

The forums actually make me feel disheartened sometimes - esp all the nerf this nerf that threads.

OrdoHermetica

Wow. What a thoroughly terrible idea.

Arv_Morvis

You want to turn the forum "Elitist Only"? Because that's what i'm getting from you., people not truly devoted to the game pfft ....and mind you i'm an ESO+ subscriber ever since i first got the game last November and i find this stupid.

AlienatedGoat

Knowledge wrote: »

TheCyberDruid wrote: »

KitLightning wrote: »

2/10 Troll Topic

My thoughts exactly. Very weak bait and underwhelming execution.

I am being genuine and I think the forums get a lot of QQ spam and unnecessary posts from people not truly devoted to the game.

And I genuinely think its an ill-advised, elitist, asinine, and unnecessary suggestion to ask for limited forum access based on subscriptions.

Knowledge

Beardimus wrote: »

See what you are trying to achieve @Knowledge but this place is way to liberal for that. I can see what you are saying, multiple people that seeming hate the game and have 'quit' yet still come here daily and comment / steer things.

But asking questions is too valuable to new players for this to be an asset.

However an ESO+ members area might give you what you are after. Active / dedicated players discussion.

Thank you for seeing and understanding my position. I agree there needs to be a new player help area and there should be a forum dedicated to that, that perhaps, would remain open to all account holders. Simply call it the "Help Forum" and open it to everyone while the remainder of the forums remain locked to paying members.

Saturnana

While I understand the reasoning behind it, to me it would feel like censorship or sorts. Only listening to the people who are paying to be listened to.. Limiting the group of people who can visibly post their feedback can only hurt ZOS' QA in the long run. I'd prefer to keep things as they are.

AlienatedGoat

Mureel wrote: »

Phage wrote: »

MinarasLaure wrote: »

Too p2w

More like pay-to-lose.

Some of the crap posted to these forums makes me genuinely worry for the future of mankind (and goatkind too).

The forums actually make me feel disheartened sometimes - esp all the nerf this nerf that threads.

What disheartens me are threads like these that just show how deeply selfish and short-sighted some people really are.

Turelus

Nope.

People who play without ESO+ are still people playing and partaking in the game, they should be able to join the community in discussions and give feedback to the developers the same as others.

It's also worth noting that some people on the B2P model might still be spending more money than an ESO+ making any arguments about monetary support not work.

Lastly if the main issue is the forums trolls and haters then a better solution would just be stronger moderation against people who clearly aren't interested with the game and come here just to post toxic material.
Paradox recently added this rule to their own forums to cut down on the people who only go there to post how greedy the company is or how the devs never listen.

Didgerion

Well......it will not clean up this thread ....looks like.....

Reedx

Mureel

Beardimus wrote: »

See what you are trying to achieve @Knowledge but this place is way to liberal for that. I can see what you are saying, multiple people that seeming hate the game and have 'quit' yet still come here daily and comment / steer things.

But asking questions is too valuable to new players for this to be an asset.

However an ESO+ members area might give you what you are after. Active / dedicated players discussion.

You are right, too - I mean people go full on negative, 'QUIT' the game and brag about quitting and still try to neg out every thread going.