How Is This Possible?

Sleep

it is possible because

ESO’s content overall is a joke

far too casual-friendly, and how only scrubs struggle with something like VMA

Ch4mpTW

Sleep wrote: »

it is possible because

ESO’s content overall is a joke

far too casual-friendly, and how only scrubs struggle with something like VMA

Not sure if sarcasm or serious.

rteezy

did it before cp 200, around 189 (and i had lecc then a month of eso exp) when i cleared first time. Obviously it depends on what class and build u bring and some rng..but ultimately it is NOT hard, people are jsut lazy ...there is enough info and videos and guides outthere..

IF people are lazy enough to learn how to animation cancel (literaly somethjign that involves pressing a button....) but rather prefer spending time on forums complaining about it,do you think they will bother learning VMA?! they will just call it "super hard" and broken and complain about it on forums ..



it is NOT hard, i can see it being completed with sub 100cp if you have the right class and build and spent enough time learning..

greylox

I have 800+ cp and suck at VMA, cp means nothing. Deltia did it without cp bitd if I remember rightly

starkerealm

Joy_Division wrote: »

What platform are you on?

There is a add-on that allows you to make up your own title.

That's not... completely, accurate.

There's a list of names and titles that were generated from one addon author, and were included as a function in a couple other addons. This includes Lorebooks and Skyshards. This would allow the user to equip the "Recruit" title and display something completely different.

It doesn't let you, outright, create your own titles, however. Everything needed to go through the addon author. Additionally, he stopped adding people to the list somewhere around three years ago, and he wouldn't allow someone to replicate an existing title. So, there's no Emperors or Stormproofed on that list. So, if someone had wanted to so something like this, they'd have had to know that Stormproof would be a real title one day, that it would indicate something well above VR1, get to know the addon author, get Stormproof as their title, play to no more than Vet 9, then leave the game, and return today, with full knowledge of what that title meant, and then start bragging.

LordSemaj

ecru wrote: »

Someone who is under cp100 would not have any idea whether the content in eso is a joke or not. It's probably someone who has a lot of experience in vma with a new account, maybe because they got banned

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

LordSemaj wrote: »

Barring the possibility that you're using one of the mods that people can pay for custom titles in, you have the answer in your original post. He's an FPS gamer. The level of skill required for competitive shooters is well beyond what ESO requires and time effectively stands still in an RPG environment because 1 second globals are an ETERNITY to someone who lives or dies by split second decisions. He may even be a child and possess the time dilation awareness of one that fails to understand why other people cannot accurately and quickly click on someone's head when it's so easy to do because the world moves in such slow motion.

I mean there are players who have beaten Dark Souls games naked with no gear and zero deaths at level 1 with no health or dmg upgrades or skill points spent. Hard is a word used by casuals to such people.

While I’m aware of said “SoulsBourne” players with that amount of skill, FPS titles require little to no skill IMO. I mean, this is coming from someone who regularly plays Overwatch and Doom. Both relatively fast-paced shooters. Overwatch especially (I main: Zenyatta, S76, and Roadhog). So n’ah. I strongly disagree with FPS titles requiring the same amount of skills as say something like: ESO’s VMA, Nioh, Mega Man games, nor any installment of “SoulsBourne”. I’d even go as far as to say FPS games lack the skill needed for something like Crash Bandicoot or Ninja Gaiden games. I mean, I’m just being 100% honest here.

yeah nah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq2Glc7hudY

Ah bunnyhopping... young gamers missed out on so much. The games they play now aren't even a fraction as challenging as the good old days but how would they know when everything is made for casuals today?

If you want to talk about fast paced, look no further than Tribes, a game that not only required mastering basic movement, but learning how to headshot people moving at 200 miles per hour in various air arcs while you yourself are skating with a weapon that has a projectile travel time of 2 seconds before impact.

Between old CS and Tribes and Quake, if you could could be seen you were already dead. It wasn't a firefight like Overwatch turns into, target spotted = target killed, so you had to be quick at spotting and responding while accurate and able to account for dial-up pings in a world of lag while pre-firing ahead of your target to ensure the shot will hit them in the future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qY8s7X-f30

Vain

He probably is attempting to look "cool" by denigrating others. VMA isn't easy, he's just full of it as only FPS scrubs can be (not to say that all decent FPS players are scrubs, just this guy).

Emmagoldman

Its suspect. Why would anyone farm gear at that cp? Ok, if an alt, maybe someone wanted to beat it, just to do it. But let me farm this gear I cant use in a month?

Lets rememeber, people did use cheat engines extensively about two years ago. Spam those meteors!

LiquidPony

clocksstoppe wrote: »

To be entirely honest once you get to know the mechanics vma IS an absolute joke with the defense sigils, let alone all of them. Also you can probably just make some sort of tank build to beat it slowly but without any danger. Or be a sorc, that's easy mode.

Agreed.

I did it on my PC account around CP200, on a stamsorc using a pretty silly gear setup: 5 x Unfathomable Darkness, 5 x Spriggan, 2 x Stormfist, all Training except the weapons and the monster pieces which are Invigorating and Reinforced. All purple quality (including the weapons) with purple enchants. With trash pots and 16k health.

If you don't care about score and you don't care about dying, it's really not difficult if you already have experience in there. Grab every sigil every round if necessary. Blow through your resources, die at the beginning of the next round, carry on.

It was honestly far easier than I thought it'd be, and I'm not even particularly good at Maelstrom. I'm sure those guys who put up 600k scores could go in there on a CP100 and finish it without much trouble. And actually the things that gave me the most trouble were environmental damage and snares/stuns. The last boss is a bit tricky but you just need to use different strats than you'd use on your CP720 with BiS gear. And the stage 8 final boss took a few tries because that fight gets obnoxious if it drags on, and obviously my DPS is fairly low with the CP and setup I have.

I'd really call the experience "annoying" rather than "difficult," though.

I'm sure this dude was trolling with what he said but I have no doubt that there are many, many players who could pretty easily complete vMA on a sub-CP100 toon.

starkerealm

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

While I’m aware of said “SoulsBourne” players with that amount of skill...

To be fair, 90% of "skill" in Souls is system knowledge. It's knowing the bosses' movesets, the ranges they'll activate their abilities at, what can be parried (hint: if it's not Gwyn, it can't be parried).

Now, a lot of this is true of ESO, to an extent. Knowing boss move sets is very important. However, knowing a boss's moveset in Dark Souls will not help you in ESO, and vice versa.

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

...FPS titles require little to no skill IMO.

That's actually untrue. The difference is that FPSs require a radically different skillset from ESO.

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

I mean, this is coming from someone who regularly plays Overwatch and Doom.

So... here's the thing about those two examples:

Multiplayer shooters determine their skill floor based on who you play against. Same is true for PvP in ESO, so far as it goes. If you're getting matched against unskilled players, the floor will be pretty low. If you're dealing with professional players, expect a much more skillful game.

This can result in a feeling that multiplayer shooters, as a whole, aren't particularly skill based. It's not true, but when your only point of comparison are players who don't know what they're doing, then that will be the result.

There's a similar thing with the Doom reboot. The skill floor is pretty low. You can muddle through pretty easily. But, the skill ceiling is very high. There's a lot of opportunities to do far better than just clearing content. You can start to see that in some of the challenge modes, but you won't really be forced to play at that level unless you crank up the difficulty.

Minyassa

I vote troll. That whole "l2p" thing is a dead giveaway. People who earnestly say that never mean well, it's always meant to belittle others, and someone who's into that is not someone whose word you should trust.

starkerealm

Minyassa wrote: »

I vote troll. That whole "l2p" thing is a dead giveaway. People who earnestly say that never mean well, it's always meant to belittle others, and someone who's into that is not someone whose word you should trust.

Not always, but when it's offered by itself, without any additional advice, you're right. If someone says you have, "a L2P issue," and then starts offering advice, it's not really trolling, but still.