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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Is 30K dps enough for endgame trial raids?

Somber97866
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If no why?
Edited by Somber97866 on February 12, 2018 1:58AM

Is 30K dps enough for endgame trial raids? 363 votes

Yes
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SirAndySorianaAzaraiitsfatbassSkuaWuffyCeruleixaraanAlmarielGalendiorAzuryaIruil_ESOsnostorm85b16_ESOTurelusniawrathb16_ESOAlienSlofleothedinoSkayaqkwisatznemo284b16_ESOthomas1970b16_ESO 220 votes
No
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Depends
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  • ValkynSketha
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    No
    Respec to stamplar.

    Edit: Apparently poll got changed to be more general so Respec your magdk to stamdk aswell.

    Serious Edit2: 30k is more than enough to complete everything this game has to offer, and even compete for leaderboards, since the game don't have that much competition.
    Edited by ValkynSketha on February 12, 2018 10:01AM
  • static_recharge
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    You asked a poll question in a really weird way and are going to get confused answers. You need to reword the question to be either "would you be happy with this" or"would you turn it away". You're asking a double sided question with only yes or no answers.
  • ForsakenSin
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    depends on the person is he a d bag that people can't get along with ? is he one of the those people who put everybody down ? dose he get angry allot ?

    If yes ... then yhea i would be happy that person is not in the vet trial raid.

    Are you just talking about character it self?

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  • AbysmalGhul
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    Yes/No please check one
  • Princess_Ciri
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    No
    if it was a casual group just seeking to clear vet trials then yes

    but for serious scores in end game raiding, 30k dps is super low. So no.
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  • Ackwalan
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    I've known a few really exceptional gamers, that were so toxic, they ruined evert guild they ever joined.
  • Somber97866
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    Yes
    Sorry everyone, due to confusion issues I simplified the question a bit.
  • FakeFox
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    Depends
    You can for sure beat some trials with it, but it's not gonna get you far.
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  • Waffennacht
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    Yes
    Can someone just say the expected DPS and then what class that corresponds with that dps?

    Can they also say in what context, as in, what support is necessary for said build to achieve said dps?
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  • JakelDK
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    Yes
    When this type of question is afsked, is it then always assumed that the 30k dps is measured on the tagget dummy?
    Also was invited to a guild provided i could perform 20k dps so i guess 30 must be enough:)
    Edited by JakelDK on February 12, 2018 2:24AM
  • Runefang
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    Yes
    I'd say yes but... are you taking a stam spot? Or are you a fully rangled templar with that DPS?

    It's genuinely enough for craglorn vet trials, you should really go for 35k for the other 3 vet trials.
  • xenowarrior92eb17_ESO
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    No
    craglorn trials yes but whats beyond that no 35k minimum
  • Jhalin
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    Depends
    For normal trials, yeah that's more than enough. In vTrials you may not make it high on the leaderboards if your group consists of 30k deeps all around, but you can clear it without too much difficultly.
  • ArchMikem
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    Yes
    If you've hit 30k, then you've achieved that which eludes a great many players.
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  • AbysmalGhul
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    Yes/No please check one

    [ Yes ] It is very acceptable.

    You can burn through 4-12 person content with 30k dps
  • Vapirko
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    Yes
    Assuming this is self buffed without major fracture i would think yes maybe except for really high end progression. Most normal guilds only require you to reliably hit 20-25k to start progressing in vet trials.
  • Erraln
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    Yes
    You'll clear, you won't get top leaderboard scores. The question is can you get 30k while not dying. Some of the highest parses I've ever seen personally have come from the people that flop to easy mechanics, ya dig?
  • Neeno
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    Yes and even enough for HM craglorn trials but not the HM DLC Trials
  • JobooAGS
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    Depends
    As long as it is self buffed and not pen cheesed, you should be fine for all but the hard modes of the dlcs
  • Morgul667
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    Yes
    Its enough, when you reach those numbers the import thing are :

    - whether you can keep this DPS in all kind of fights/difficultuies
    - whether you die a lot
    - whether you are reactive to res teammates and follow RL requests
    Edited by Morgul667 on February 12, 2018 4:38AM
  • Vaoh
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    No
    This shouldn’t be allowed. You have asked two very different questions in this poll.

    Your first question was something along the lines of:
    “Would your group be happy to turn down my 30K DPS Templar”
    Sounded like you had some attitude too so most people picked Yes.

    Your second question then showed up:
    “Is 30K dps enough for endgame trial raids?”
    It’s fine for Normal trials. Even for Vet Craglorn trials. Yet if you’re asking questions this way, I would be very skeptical of how you actually perform.

    Are you trying to prove your DPS to someone and say “oh look everyone on the Forum says I have enough DPS”?

    Don’t change your poll question or it messes everything up.

  • KingYogi415
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    Yes
    If you don’t cheese a NB 45k the only people left running won’t even look at you.

    But 20k+ is good enough.
  • DoctorESO
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    Yes
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    Edited by DoctorESO on September 23, 2018 3:23AM
  • KingYogi415
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    Yes
    DoctorESO wrote: »
    If you don’t cheese a NB 45k the only people left running won’t even look at you.

    But 20k+ is good enough.

    This one regrets to inform you that 20k is not good enough for VAA HM, VHRC HM, VMOL, VHOF, VAS+1, and VAS+2.

    dps.jpg

    Not everyone is as toxic as you.

    A couple people running self buffed 20k+ can easily be brought along, as long as they can learn to not die to the mechanics!
  • DoctorESO
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    Yes
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    Edited by DoctorESO on September 23, 2018 3:23AM
  • Ihatenightblades
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    No
    craglorn trials yes but whats beyond that no 35k minimum

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  • LadyNalcarya
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    Depends
    It depends. Hard dps checks arent very high in this game, but almost everyone plays a dd so there's a huge competition. And of course, pretty much every group wants a "safer", faster and easier run and they will choose dds with higher dps. That's how things work. Even if we're talking about beginner groups, more dps means more room for mistakes (so the group will still be able to recover even after several deaths).
    So if your group is ok with that and you're not looking for leaderboard runs, then yes, its technically enough (if you can pull this 30k dps in raid without dying too much).

    DoctorESO wrote: »
    If you don’t cheese a NB 45k the only people left running won’t even look at you.

    But 20k+ is good enough.

    This one regrets to inform you that 20k is not good enough for VAA HM, VHRC HM, VMOL, VHOF, VAS+1, and VAS+2.

    dps.jpg

    Not everyone is as toxic as you.

    A couple people running self buffed 20k+ can easily be brought along, as long as they can learn to not die to the mechanics!

    The problem is that reaching high dps is easier than not dying to mechanics in DLC trials. At least from what I've seen.
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  • Anhedonie
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    No
    Not if you want to run vMoL.
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  • wolfxspice
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    No
    whenever i bring this up with people, first thing they ask is, "what are you getting in a group parce" I pull a little over 37k on my own with my trial setup, and i still have a hard time finding a group, most people i talk to don't care about solo parces anymore, but maybe i'm just talking to the wrong people.
    I'm a casual now
  • Nighn_9
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    DoctorESO wrote: »
    If you don’t cheese a NB 45k the only people left running won’t even look at you.

    But 20k+ is good enough.

    This one regrets to inform you that 20k is not good enough for VAA HM, VHRC HM, VMOL, VHOF, VAS+1, and VAS+2.

    There are normal versions of every trial and 20k dps is enough for those. Goodluck new raiders! (get the hint?)
    Edited by Nighn_9 on February 12, 2018 8:20AM
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