Mockery

ruikkarikun

Guildmate invited to do hm pledge Falkreath Hold.
After some searching we found tank and healer.

We did dungeon fast and reach the final boss. At first try we almost killed boss, but wiped. Tank invited us to teamspeak to get some better cordination. I installed teamspeak, and got crashed while it was installing, after I back my guildmate left. I asked why did he left, tank said "I know this guy, he always leave at the bosses"

So I joined to teamspeak, and we found new dd. Tank and Healer (she is woman) explained our tactics and we started our tries. I typed in chat that I dont have microphone, they said ok, whey wanted just all hear commands.

While we did boss fight or before that dungeon I didn't type any bad words, didn't do bad things and they tell a couple of times that dps is good we just need good coordination.

We did 10 tries but didnt kill boss, someone died every time, but not only me, it was just hard on hm. One time tank died at the begining so it was not a problem.

Healer said she got to go, so it was last try for her.

Then STARTED INSANE THINGS READ

Healer typed me in chat: "Do you want to join my guild or trials etc". I said that ok, but I'm in 5 guils, and asked her to invite me in friend list. She said ok. Then se said "Do you leave the group? I need to clean my list" I said I'm still in group. She added me as friend, I accept it and immidiately was kicked from the party.

When I press "O" I saw friend list, healer was offline.
I asked tank in chat why did they kick me, and did not get responce.

But they frogot to kick me from teamspeak and I heard all their conversations.
Healer said "We kicked him, and I go to invisible mode, so he won't see I'm online" Tank said Ok yes lets find new.

I asked Tank in chat why did they kick me also I said I heard all their conversations.

Tank said "I know I know, I don't know why she kick you"
Healer seems became embarrases when se realized I heard about what did she said In teamspeak, and was like nothing happens.

I asked second DD why they kicked me and who it was, He didn't say anything.

Again I didnt say any bad words even now, I was polite, I just dont understend it's insane add me to friend list, after 10 seconds kick me from group, go to invisible mode. Can someone explain me what is this? How it can be real?

Again if they told me something like "Can you leave bacuse of *reason*" I would be ok with that.

I asked again and again in chat what is the REASON of kick. They didnt say.
Then tank put me to ignore list.

I just worry about time I spent on that dungeon. I didnt get keys, didnt beat boss.

I asked tank why they kick me, but he just say leave temaspeak, i dont know etc.

So I first time see things like this.

Horowonnoe

Sucks that happened.

Ihatenightblades

"Team speak" LOL why console is wayyy more fun i hardly ever get put in a group where someone doesnt have mic.

Couldnt imagine playing this game on pc

Tasear

Some people are cowards and don't have class. You have my sympathies for such an encounter.

Marabornwingrion

She's a b****

VilniusNastavnik

You got paired up with a bunch of [Snip]. Don't let it get to you. Some people are like that. Do it with guildies or friends and have fun.

But, I would invest in a mic. I could understand if they kicked you because they were unable to coordinate with you not being able to speak.. though that is simple a matter of them asking you to leave due to the microphone issue, not acting like [Snip] as you described.

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nihirisutou

This happens a lot on multi-player console games tbh, maybe not to the extent of being in a team speak but the 'friending-kicking' thing happens.

LeagueTroll

I tell ppl in voice, ‘man your dps is not nuf for this, need to replace you and get someone better.’ That hm need some real dps. Average 25k ones don’t make the cut. They give you at least a few times out of the 10 tries to prove yourself. Only kicked you after for most likely not nuf dps. If this is indeed the case, git gud.

Aelakhaii_De_Mythos

lol

don't take these people serious... just become more violent and if anyone says something... you know what to do (i am serious)


and that was really cowardly from their part

VilniusNastavnik

LeagueTroll wrote: »

I tell ppl in voice, ‘man your dps is not nuf for this, need to replace you and get someone better.’ That hm need some real dps. Average 25k ones don’t make the cut. They give you at least a few times out of the 10 tries to prove yourself. Only kicked you after for most likely not nuf dps. If this is indeed the case, git gud.

Telling people to Git Gud yet here you are in another thread that has since been locked:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/393651/why-hybrid-is-bad/p2

LeagueTroll wrote:

This game is already difficult enough, at least i still have not done any dlc trial hard mode. you over achievers who run around with your vas hm silver skin, really should understand not everyone has amazing animation cancel skills, most of us can’t possibly master 10 dots rotations.

Obvious troll is obvious. Trial hard mode can be done with coordination and understanding mechanics with 30K DPS.. if you're QQing about a character with 25K DPS in one thread and saying you don't have enough to do HM in another.. If you're going for speed, vitality scoring or leader board, you're gonna need more.. 35-40K. But clearing.. 30K is sufficient for all content.

ForsakenSin

VilniusNastavnik wrote: »

But, I would invest in a mic. I could understand if they kicked you because they were unable to coordinate with you not being able to speak.. though that is simple a matter of them asking you to leave due to the microphone issue, not acting like d*cks as you described.

I have to disagree with that ive done many vet trails and VDSA without having a mic on as i play late at night i don't talk much no one has ever kicked me because they can't hear my sexy deep voice lol , as long as you can hear what to do and whats going on you are fine.

however

"You got paired up with a bunch of [Snip]. Don't let it get to you. Some people are like that. Do it with guildies or friends and have fun."

you are right about that 100%

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ruikkarikun

LeagueTroll wrote: »

I tell ppl in voice, ‘man your dps is not nuf for this, need to replace you and get someone better.’ That hm need some real dps. Average 25k ones don’t make the cut. They give you at least a few times out of the 10 tries to prove yourself. Only kicked you after for most likely not nuf dps. If this is indeed the case, git gud.

You read it wrong? They said 3 times - in the middle of dungeon, at the last boss and after a couple of tries that we have "good", "nice" "enough" dps. I didnt ask - they said it.

So why they didnt say it before kick? They didnt say it even after, when I asked them in chat.

And Healer asked me if I want to join with her to some dungeons in future, then added me in friend list, then after 10 seconds kicked me from the group and said in teamspeak that she go to invisible mode, so I won't see she's still doing this dungeon.

And more then I was in teamspeak some time listening their new tries and they didnt have success.

geonsocal

always good though to have crazy people tell you they're crazy...

as far as why what happened to you happened to you - i think this may sum it up best:



people are only human - don't expect too much...

every once in a while when i've pugged - people have tried to kick me from the group (who knows why)...thing is, i'll usually pug with a friend - so, you ain't gonna be able to kick me...you can leave the group - and, yeah - take that 15 minute dungeon finder penalty with you

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Diminish

LeagueTroll wrote: »

I tell ppl in voice, ‘man your dps is not nuf for this, need to replace you and get someone better.’ That hm need some real dps. Average 25k ones don’t make the cut. They give you at least a few times out of the 10 tries to prove yourself. Only kicked you after for most likely not nuf dps. If this is indeed the case, git gud.

Please tell me what vet dungeons 25k DPS is not enough for? I'd vote to kick you from my group just for saying something like that.

Bhaal5

"Days of our lives" style drama, please tell me more

Nimble it, and move on.

DoctorESO

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monktoasty

I don't get it either. It seems odd..why go invisible? If their intent was ton kick just kick you..why all the extra steps like asking to join guild and friend listing...going invisible..just..wow..

Diminish

Perhaps you weren't actually carrying your weight, even when you thought you were? It may be harsh to hear, but if that were the case, I probably would have voted to... Not out of spite, simply because vFH and some other DLC dungeons can be a pita if just 1 person is consistently not carrying their weight. The last boss literally relies on the DPS. If even one goes down it makes it A LOT harder to manage at burn phase.

You said you guys pulled 10 times and still hadn't beat it. At that point, something needs to change. Nobody wants to spend 5 hours in a dungeon wiping, repairing gear, etc. I wouldn't let it bother you, just keep running that dungeon with PUGs and you will eventually be able to do it with your eyes closed, and if they did vote you out due to lack of performance, then you will get to the point where you will realize why when you are the one doing the voting.

starkerealm

LeagueTroll wrote: »

I tell ppl in voice, ‘man your dps is not nuf for this, need to replace you and get someone better.’ That hm need some real dps. Average 25k ones don’t make the cut. They give you at least a few times out of the 10 tries to prove yourself. Only kicked you after for most likely not nuf dps. If this is indeed the case, git gud.

Thing is, we're talking about Vet Falkreath. If your DPS is aware of their surroundings and understand the mechanics, there are remarkably few DSP checks in that dungeon. In fact, almost all of the mechanics are based on boss health thresholds. That means your DPS sets the tempo for the fights. You don't need high DPS, and vFH is one of the few dungeons where an inexperienced team with high DPS can screw themselves over.

Stovahkiin

Sorry that happened, I’ve had very similar things happen to me over the years, albeit without the teamspeak part.

All you can do is shrug your shoulders and hope they just keep wiping without you

rynth

I feel for you one of reasons I stopped using dungeon finder, I tell people right off bat that I'm learning so if they want to kick to let me know. I'd rather leave a group on my own then just be kicked because some jackasses can't take time to be respectful. But, I guess just have to choke it up to MMO and all that.

Perfect example is second to last boss on vet mode White gold tower where you have the boss that team has to take turns clicking on agro while portals open. I was on a team my first time through since I was tank I was the only person that was supposed to agro and people getting pissed cause eventually I would get killed after being the only one agro group started complaining why I couldn't agro the boss by myself got kicked.

Got with next group and come to find out everyone has to take turns agro'ing the boss no one person can take him on. lol also been on groups where I was last person to die (when I was a tank) same boss. Then all of a sudden I have a couple bad rounds where I'm the first to die and group starts harping on tanking skills. Even though my death ratio was small compared to rest of the group you will find people blame certain builds or duties (tank, healer, dps) no matter what has gone on.

Ch4mpTW

Damn OP... They did you dirty. I apologize that you had to endure such a horrible thing.

firedrgn

I have been in dungeons doing 70% of dps and been kicked. Lmao. Its always the same crybaby that dies first. They start talking crp abput someone. I wpould have paid to watch them on last boss lol.

Dymence

They probably saw you as the deadweight of the group but didn't have the balls to tell you. *** happens.

Chaos2088

Healers and Tanks know they can replace DD's very quickly....some people are just plain rude about it. (I play all roles so don't jump me)

It could be a number of things, damage wasn't enough, mechs were not being followed. Underlining thing is people just don't have the patience to explain things to people, which sucks as we have all been there at one point. Proper communication is key. A lot of people do not convey what they really mean due out of wanting to appear polite and their actions do the opposite... lol

I would just leave them and play in the realm of elder scrolls with other people, plenty of us out there. No point in dealing with people like that.

Find a guild of people who you really click with, a big one so no matter when you log in there are people who you can join and have fun with. That the whole point isn't it to have fun

RobbieRocket

The truth is that people find it easier to avoid confrontation. Even more so in online games where it is easy to hide identity, opinion or present false ones, and so on.

It sounds to me like you should not worry too much about this, it is not personal. I mostly only do any challenging content with online friends/guild mates I know. This way we all communicate and there is an strong element of understanding, teamwork and familiarity. Not that it isn't good to make new contacts too, it's just that this is one of the pitfalls of that.

Good luck.

Merlin13KAGL

Yeah, that's pretty lame.

If there is legit reason that someone wishes to replace you in group, they should at least have the courtesy and courage to tell you why.

They did you a favor by blocking you, as it doesn't sound like either one is worth your time.

Iccotak

This honestly made me mad to read.
This person invested their time into this hard dungeon and they get kicked for no discernible reason and then they treat this person like a nobody.
I have dealt with one group like that before and I was pretty mad. Which is why I made this rule.

Rule #1 of grouping: Always take a picture and/or screenshot of the group you are with so then you can report them for that crap.

DoctorESO

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Stovahkiin

DoctorESO wrote: »

If you add them to your ignore list, does that mean Group Finder won't pair you with them?

I know it does in some other games, not sure if it works like that here though. It would obviously be a good idea.

Cpt_Teemo

monktoasty wrote: »

I don't get it either. It seems odd..why go invisible? If their intent was ton kick just kick you..why all the extra steps like asking to join guild and friend listing...going invisible..just..wow..

They think you can't report them while invis i guess but they're wrong !