PVPers: Do you want a Vivec 2?

Chaos2088

Maybe

It would be cool that i would not have to que for 30mins-1hr to get in yes....

But: I would not like to go into a campaign that has little people to group/co-ordinate with.

I have not helped this discussion at all. -flies away-

NyassaV

Other

Isn't Shor just Vivec 2? Or the waiting room for Vivec?

Epona222

coop500 wrote: »

Edit: Happy spelling nazis?

*Digs nails into palms of hands and grits teeth*

What is wrong with the existing campaigns?

Vapirko

Other

If anything we need something new. A two week, faction locked campaign

elfantasmo

No

coop500 wrote: »

fastolfv_ESO wrote: »

no i want vivec fixed, if you understood vivec you would know theres not enough guilds atleast on dc side to even split between 2 servers so what would be accomplished? pugs swarm to where guilds start fights so the pug population will follow the guilds making it one big lopsided server no matter how you split things up

You're right, I don't know how it works, because I would never dare step foot in a place with so many blood thirsty people.

Why would you make a post about something you know nothing about? I don't see what you would be getting from the results...

Runschei

Other

I main Vivec myself and I wouldn't mind a copy of the campaign, but I doubt it will be as popular as the main Vivec.

Azurya

Yes

queueing for more than an hour is no fun
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Bam_Bam

Other

I'm at the stage where I really want them to create ESO: Cyrodiil - An entirely new game aimed squarely at the PvP community.

It would let them redesign Pvp from the floor up as well as allowing them to free up more time and resources into addressing PvE issues.

Maybe also allow server tunnelling so PvP players could join the PvE game with their PvP charcters AND VICE VERSA.

I'd happily buy both games

Epona222

Baranthus wrote: »

I'm at the stage where I really want them to create ESO: Cyrodiil - An entirely new game aimed squarely at the PvP community.

It would let them redesign Pvp from the floor up as well as allowing them to free up more time and resources into addressing PvE issues.

Maybe also allow server tunnelling so PvP players could join the PvE game with their PvP charcters AND VICE VERSA.

I'd happily buy both games

Except I think they make most of their cash from the PvE RP community, so not sure how that would work out in terms of resources being allocated.

SodanTok

No

There is no population to sustain current servers

Aquanova

No

I want Thornblade back

Eirella

Yes

Yes.

Joy_Division

ZoS can make a Vivec 2, but 4 years of ESOO history tells us everyone will still log into Vivec 1.

bloodthirstyvampire

Yes

coop500 wrote: »

fastolfv_ESO wrote: »

no i want vivec fixed, if you understood vivec you would know theres not enough guilds atleast on dc side to even split between 2 servers so what would be accomplished? pugs swarm to where guilds start fights so the pug population will follow the guilds making it one big lopsided server no matter how you split things up

You're right, I don't know how it works, because I would never dare step foot in a place with so many blood thirsty people.

Hey you talkin bout me

bloodthirstyvampire

Yes

I like it the way it is, campaigns are always active always something to do split it up and that stops

Ermiq

Other

On PC EU Vivec always has a free space for players to join. Sotha Sil is always full at prime time.
So, no, I don't need Vivec 2 (especially since I don't want PvP with CP), I need Sotha Sil 2 instead, because its population is a sign that it is more popular than Vivec.

starlizard70ub17_ESO

Other

The Vivec we already have kind of sucks, so why would I want a second one. (Honestly do you really think it would be better if we had a second Vivec? That's like asking for 3 more Shors.)

Beardimus

No

No, encourage people into Shor and Sotha instead.

No CP is way better anyway.

coop500

Maybe

elfantasmo wrote: »

coop500 wrote: »

fastolfv_ESO wrote: »

no i want vivec fixed, if you understood vivec you would know theres not enough guilds atleast on dc side to even split between 2 servers so what would be accomplished? pugs swarm to where guilds start fights so the pug population will follow the guilds making it one big lopsided server no matter how you split things up

You're right, I don't know how it works, because I would never dare step foot in a place with so many blood thirsty people.

Why would you make a post about something you know nothing about? I don't see what you would be getting from the results...

To learn, for giggles, to see what people say, seriously not everything has a endgame.

Katahdin

People calling for CP options to be taken away need to realize that if that happens, PvP will be just as dead as the no CP campaign is now because people will leave the game rather than play no CP pvp.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Katahdin wrote: »

People calling for CP options to be taken away need to realize that if that happens, PvP will be just as dead as the no CP campaign is now because people will leave the game rather than play no CP pvp.

There was no CP when this game launched and there were more people and healthier campaigns than now.

thedude33

No

No. I have been in games where they tried to promote pvp by thinking the answer was more servers with different rule sets. Failed miserably.

VaranisArano

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

People calling for CP options to be taken away need to realize that if that happens, PvP will be just as dead as the no CP campaign is now because people will leave the game rather than play no CP pvp.

There was no CP when this game launched and there were more people and healthier campaigns than now.

There was also a long grind through Veteran ranks, so YMMV.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

VaranisArano wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

People calling for CP options to be taken away need to realize that if that happens, PvP will be just as dead as the no CP campaign is now because people will leave the game rather than play no CP pvp.

There was no CP when this game launched and there were more people and healthier campaigns than now.

There was also a long grind through Veteran ranks, so YMMV.

Which had nothing to do with how the mechanics of PvP worked out at the time other than the grind.

VaranisArano

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

People calling for CP options to be taken away need to realize that if that happens, PvP will be just as dead as the no CP campaign is now because people will leave the game rather than play no CP pvp.

There was no CP when this game launched and there were more people and healthier campaigns than now.

There was also a long grind through Veteran ranks, so YMMV.

Which had nothing to do with how the mechanics of PvP worked out at the time other than the grind.

Its more that if you are going to claim that having No CP was a direct part of why PVP had more people and campaigns were healthier, I think its worth acknowledging that the reason we didn't have CP was because we had Vet ranks instead. Grinding for Vet ranks and having a distinct advantage the higher your vet rank is YMMV territory for me. You might have liked it, that's fine. I don't think it was much better than the current CP system myself even though we eventually got battleleveled up to Vet 14 in Cyrodiil.

Which is to say that I'm not sure that having No CP is in fact the cause of having more people and healthier campaigns instead of merely being correlated. There have been a lot of changes to PVP over the years.

DeadlyRecluse

A second campaign called Vivec?

A third CP campaign?

Change Shor to a 30 day ruleset?

Clone Vivec, complete with constant poplock and salt generation?

....what are you asking for?

VaranisArano

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

A second campaign called Vivec?

A third CP campaign?

Change Shor to a 30 day ruleset?

Clone Vivec, complete with constant poplock and salt generation?

....what are you asking for?

A campaign that has a high but balanced population, constant PVP, yet with little to no lag and low queues.

So, basically, working servers.

DeadlyRecluse

VaranisArano wrote: »

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

A second campaign called Vivec?

A third CP campaign?

Change Shor to a 30 day ruleset?

Clone Vivec, complete with constant poplock and salt generation?

....what are you asking for?

A campaign that has a high but balanced population, constant PVP, yet with little to no lag and low queues.

So, basically, working servers.

That sounds like the opposite of a Vivec 2 : P

HarlotsLoki

Other

Move the Imperial City to a server, rather than being tagged on to a main campaign. If vivec or sotha is full you can go hunting in there, even getting a heads up to the current population in IC.

RDMyers65b14_ESO

No

It won't change anything. But, cheer up in less than a week, we will have a more accurate population and queues as ZOS will stop the cross faction queuing exploit.