Guar and Dinosaurs

  • Iccotak
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    I literally say in the OP
    Iccotak wrote: »
    NOTE:
    1. This is my opinion
    2. I am not suggesting replacing Guar. I know people like them
    3. I am not solely talking about mounts. I am talking about the variety of wild life in ESO in general.

    So Why is everyone acting like I am saying "Get Rid of Them" ?
  • starkerealm
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    ZOS_Holden wrote: »

    Who wouldn't love this face?

    But seriously, while we do love the Guar, mouths with legs and all, we appreciate your passion for adding more realistic and dinosaur-esque dinosaurs into the game!

    15 years later, and those guys are still ****ing adorable.
  • starkerealm
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    Iccotak wrote: »
    Dragons in Skyrim are fantastical yet biology is still taken into account when designing them.

    They really don't. Or, more accurately, the Dragons in Skyrim don't take physics into account. When you consider the weight of one of Skyrim's dragons, they would need an immense wingspan to get airborne. I crunched the numbers once on a similar variables, and from what I recall the Dragons of Skyrim would need to weigh slightly less than your average Whiterun guard based on their size.
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    They really don't. Or, more accurately, the Dragons in Skyrim don't take physics into account. When you consider the weight of one of Skyrim's dragons, they would need an immense wingspan to get airborne. I crunched the numbers once on a similar variables, and from what I recall the Dragons of Skyrim would need to weigh slightly less than your average Whiterun guard based on their size.

    This explains why they come apart like tissue paper when they get killed and burn! :smile:
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  • SilverIce58
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    Iccotak wrote: »

    More like "The lore says there are dinosaurs, where are they and why is Guar the default? AND take realism into account when making up new animals"

    That's not funny tho, also you must be fun at parties.
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    They really don't. Or, more accurately, the Dragons in Skyrim don't take physics into account. When you consider the weight of one of Skyrim's dragons, they would need an immense wingspan to get airborne. I crunched the numbers once on a similar variables, and from what I recall the Dragons of Skyrim would need to weigh slightly less than your average Whiterun guard based on their size.

    Their bodies have a sharper shape kept in mind. Their chests convex.
    As to wing span this is because Dragons use aedric powers to fly. That is why it takes a shout to force one to the ground and experience 'Mortality'
  • SilverIce58
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    Iccotak wrote: »

    Their bodies have a sharper shape kept in mind. Their chests convex.
    As to wing span this is because Dragons use aedric powers to fly. That is why it takes a shout to force one to the ground and experience 'Mortality'

    They don't use "Aedric powers" to fly. Magic is what "grants them the abilities to speak and fly despite their lack of lips or aerodynamic frame." The Thu'um also is not "aedric powers," it is a form of magic. Magic comes from Aetherius, not the Aedra. (Tho, both the Daedra and the Aedra have used magic)

    Source: the first sentence of the 2nd paragraph of this page -> http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dragons
    Edited by SilverIce58 on June 18, 2018 4:59AM
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  • kichwas
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    Iccotak wrote: »
    It's 2018 we have better technology and a better understanding of Dinosaurs. There is so much inspiration waiting to be used.

    Yes, it's 2018...

    So if you want to be correct, anything dinosaur like should look like this:
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    Or this:
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    Or just give up and go for this:
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    Many of those would be awesome inspirations

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    We already have Dinosaurs..
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    DanteYoda wrote: »
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    We already have Dinosaurs..

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  • Cardthief
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    Here's the thing though, when we talk "realism" the realism you are looking for only really applies to us on Earth, yes many of the creatures of Nirn are similar, if not identical biologically to the creatures on Earth, but you need to keep in mind, this is a different planet in a different universe we are talking about. Biology can act differently there, hell, the laws of physics can be entirely different.

    Just because Nirn and Earth share similar things, doesn't mean that the same rules apply, an herbivore on Nirn can have pointed-teeth and a digestive system that would seem to not be possible on Earth because it its not Earth.

    Again, different planet, different universe; there are similarities, there are differences; the realism/biology/laws of physics of Earth only apply to Earth, Nirn has its own set of rules, its own biology, etc.
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    ZOS_Holden wrote: »

    Who wouldn't love this face?

    But seriously, while we do love the Guar, mouths with legs and all, we appreciate your passion for adding more realistic and dinosaur-esque dinosaurs into the game!

    next thing we know here comes a elder scrolls tyranasaurus rex out of nowhere lol
  • KraziJoe
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    Even though this was once earth, it was so long ago that things are not like they used to be. Heck, even humans have been replaced by other races, so don't expect dinosaurs to make a come back.
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    DuskMarine wrote: »

    next thing we know here comes a elder scrolls tyranasaurus rex out of nowhere lol

    Wouldn't that technically be the kagouti
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    DanteYoda wrote: »

    Wouldn't that technically be the kagouti

    no itd be something alot worse
  • Mystrius_Archaion
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    Guar are adorable ok? Don't you dare take my guar from me!

    I think the closest you'll get is a wamasu.

    ZOS gimme wamasu mounts and pets pl0x.

    Or daedroths as well. Daedroths are cool.

    I would like a daedroth mount, riding on its back while it walks on 2 legs looking very scary to my enemies.
    SWTOR sort of did this with Rancor mounts but they had seats on their heads because of their hunchback spine instead of the standing grip points a daedroth would require.

    This would be so cool to have a daedroth mount.
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