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Guar and Dinosaurs

Iccotak
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NOTE:
1. This is my opinion
2. I am not suggesting replacing Guar. I know people like them
3. I am not solely talking about mounts. I am talking about the variety of wild life in ESO in general.

As a Dinosaur and Reptile enthusiast, the dino-like mounts we have so far are...bad. They look like mouths with legs. They look horribly cartoonish nor the least bit interesting.
Also nothing of the guar suggests herbivorous. They look like they have the head of a Snake.

I understand that they had this to work with, but come on.
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It's 2018 we have better technology and a better understanding of Dinosaurs. There is so much inspiration waiting to be used.

I would take a hadrosaur over a guar.
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Also There actually are dinosaur type creatures in Elder Scrolls. Take the Swamp Leviathan for example. It would make a great World Boss, or maybe it would fit better as a Trial Boss.
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How about some non-mechanical versions of these guys?
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On a side note; the fact that Guar don't look any different in Black Marsh as compared to Morrowind is a perfect example of the homogenization in ESO due to re-purposing assets without doing anything to differentiate them. Maybe give them different skin patterns depending on where they are. They should be adapted to their environment.
Why not use the Tessellated Guar?
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I want Dinosaurs!
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Edited by Iccotak on January 23, 2018 11:37PM
  • pauli133
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    Don't you dare mess with my Guar. BIG ROUND HEAD AND TINY ARMS OF FURY!
  • Iccotak
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    pauli133 wrote: »
    Don't you dare mess with my Guar. BIG ROUND HEAD AND TINY ARMS OF FURY!

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  • starlizard70ub17_ESO
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    Bitteroot would like to have a word with you. :#
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  • starkerealm
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    Well, Warhammer's got you covered. They have an entire faction of Dinosaurs.
  • Iccotak
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    Well, Warhammer's got you covered. They have an entire faction of Dinosaurs.

    I don't play games like Warhammer.

    Also this is not an issue of dinosaurs not existing in Elder Scrolls. They do.
  • SweetrollBunny
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    You are unworthy to even walk the same path as my Guar! My beautiful Guar shall smite thee with it's tiny angry arms! An army of tiny arms and big heads shall ever haunt your dreams! *dramatic exhale*
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  • TheDarkShadow
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    Not really on the topic but did anyone notice guar don't have nostrils? Which mean if they close their mouth they can't breath
    Edited by TheDarkShadow on January 23, 2018 4:18AM
  • zaria
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    I always thought the clanfear would make an fun mount.
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  • teiselaise
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    No no no no no no and hell no, if they add the swamp leviathan it will be scaled down and if that happens all future swamp leviathans will be scaled down, heeell no.
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  • Iccotak
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    teiselaise wrote: »
    No no no no no no and hell no, if they add the swamp leviathan it will be scaled down and if that happens all future swamp leviathans will be scaled down, heeell no.

    @teiselaise

    Well before you over-react
    1. Swamp Leviathan is an example that there are dinosaurs in Elder Scrolls, doesn't mean we have to show it in ESO but there are other dinos that they can bring in
    2. ESO is eventually going to cover the whole map so Swamp Leviathan could very well happen.
    3. With the better technology we see happening in the DLCs it is possible that it won't be scaled down.
    Edited by Iccotak on January 23, 2018 6:54AM
  • HatchetHaro
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    Guar are adorable ok? Don't you dare take my guar from me!

    I think the closest you'll get is a wamasu.

    ZOS gimme wamasu mounts and pets pl0x.

    Or daedroths as well. Daedroths are cool.
    Edited by HatchetHaro on January 23, 2018 6:55AM
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  • teiselaise
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    Iccotak wrote: »
    teiselaise wrote: »
    No no no no no no and hell no, if they add the swamp leviathan it will be scaled down and if that happens all future swamp leviathans will be scaled down, heeell no.

    @teiselaise

    Well before you over-react
    1. Swamp Leviathan is an example that there are dinosaurs in Elder Scrolls, doesn't mean we have to show it in ESO but there are other dinos that they can bring in
    2. ESO is eventually going to cover the whole map so Swamp Leviathan could very well happen.
    3. With the better technology we see happening in the DLCs it is possible that it won't be scaled down.

    NO!
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  • SilverIce58
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    Yeah, the Swamp Leviathan is a thing, but not in ESO. Closest thing currently is the Argonian Behemoth or Wamasu. In terms of mounts? Lots of us have been wanting a Wamasu mount for years. Get in line.
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    I can see a Swamp Leviathan being a world boss, but it would need to be scaled down to a reasonable level.
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  • Iccotak
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    SisterGoat wrote: »
    I can see a Swamp Leviathan being a world boss, but it would need to be scaled down to a reasonable level.

    Why? Why can't we have this huge thing? I think they should at least try or aim for that size. maybe make it a trial boss
    Edited by Iccotak on January 23, 2018 7:53AM
  • DenniMyuu
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    Guar are already baby t-rexes.
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  • SilverIce58
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    Iccotak wrote: »
    SisterGoat wrote: »
    I can see a Swamp Leviathan being a world boss, but it would need to be scaled down to a reasonable level.

    Why? Why can't we have this huge thing? I think they should at least try or aim for that size.

    Why can't we ride on a huge mount that's probably the size of a Dragon? Hmm, I wonder what that would do for Cyrodiil, everyone riding on a huge Swamp Leviathan would cause tons of lag.

    If we get Murkmire tho, I'd love to see it as a WB the size of the Wamasu Matriarch in the Cathedral of Akatosh

    If you weren't talking about it as a mount, then I apologize.
    Edited by SilverIce58 on January 23, 2018 7:58AM
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  • Runschei
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    I ride a pale guar and he is yet to see his family anywhere in the game. Yay to more skins on guars existing in the game already!
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    DenniMyuu wrote: »
    Guar are already baby t-rexes.

    We need more than Guars. Guars are not enough. How about some dinos that have necks?

    How about some non-mechanical versions of these guys?
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    Iccotak wrote: »
    SisterGoat wrote: »
    I can see a Swamp Leviathan being a world boss, but it would need to be scaled down to a reasonable level.

    Why? Why can't we have this huge thing? I think they should at least try or aim for that size. maybe make it a trial boss

    Maybe we get to see it in Murkmire? Or we can beg for it and get it in Murkmire!
    Edited by Runschei on January 23, 2018 7:59AM
  • Iccotak
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    Iccotak wrote: »
    SisterGoat wrote: »
    I can see a Swamp Leviathan being a world boss, but it would need to be scaled down to a reasonable level.

    Why? Why can't we have this huge thing? I think they should at least try or aim for that size.

    Why can't we ride on a huge mount that's probably the size of a Dragon? Hmm, I wonder what that would do for Cyrodiil, everyone riding on a huge Swamp Leviathan would cause tons of lag.

    If we get Murkmire tho, I'd love to see it as a WB the size of the Wamasu Matriarch in the Cathedral of Akatosh

    If you weren't talking about it as a mount, then I apologize.

    Not saying Mounts. I don't just want more types of mounts. I want greater Variety of creatures in Elder Scrolls.
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    Clannfear are basically raptors
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    Rejected
  • SisterGoat
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    Iccotak wrote: »
    SisterGoat wrote: »
    I can see a Swamp Leviathan being a world boss, but it would need to be scaled down to a reasonable level.

    Why? Why can't we have this huge thing? I think they should at least try or aim for that size. maybe make it a trial boss

    Because of game engine restrictions.
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  • SisterGoat
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    In WoW there is a dinosaur that is massive that you can tame...

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    Here you can see a scaled down version, and standing over it is a glitched version with it in full size, so big you can't even see the whole thing if you stood underneath it. See how disruptive that is? Unlike WoW, you can't run through NPCs like you can players. The hitbox of a creature that size would be massive, making it hard to get around it, dodging attacks close range would be impossible, and ESO's engine may not be able to even handle something like that in the first place.
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  • ZOS_Holden
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    Iccotak wrote: »
    NOTE:

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    Who wouldn't love this face?

    But seriously, while we do love the Guar, mouths with legs and all, we appreciate your passion for adding more realistic and dinosaur-esque dinosaurs into the game!
    Edited by ZOS_Holden on January 23, 2018 10:36PM
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  • xeNNNNN
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    Well, Warhammer's got you covered. They have an entire faction of Dinosaurs.

    Shhh we dont talk about them. SHHHH.
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    ZOS_Holden wrote: »
    Iccotak wrote: »
    NOTE:

    beast_morrowind_guar.png

    Who wouldn't love this face?

    But seriously, while we do love the Guar, mouths with legs and all, we appreciate your passion for adding more realistic and dinosaur-esque dinosaurs into the game!
    Ok so we have an interactive mod here, which is generally what the community needs. Otherwise we've been just full of 'This post has been removed bla bla bla keep it bla' or 'offtopic bla bla'. (won't specify anybody, but I think most people know them) Keep it up.
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    I love my guar buddy.
    He's my pal.
    I feed him lettuce.
    His name is Horatio.
    He lives in my yard with his goat friends.

    The only way guars need to be changed is if they added more interesting colors to the ones already in the game. LOL. It's funny riding through Bal Foyen on my flashy black-and-white spotted guar, and every guar there is ... brown.

    (*Edit* I wrote this five months ago, and it reads like I'm drunk. LOL! I wasn't drunk, I swear ... just in a silly mood.)
    Edited by SydneyGrey on June 17, 2018 3:02AM
  • VoodooPlatypus
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    SydneyGrey wrote: »
    I love my guar buddy.
    He's my pal.
    I feed him lettuce.
    His name is Horatio.
    He lives in my yard with his goat friends.

    The only way guars need to be changed is if they added more interesting colors to the ones already in the game. LOL. It's funny riding through Bal Foyen on my flashy black-and-white spotted guar, and every guar there is ... brown.

    Bal Foyen guars (is the plural guar or guars?) are just jealous of your flashy black-and-white spotted guar!

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