Undodgeable and unblockable skills list. Need your help

Alcast

@Cinbri Can you please double check this, is that info all correct? Tagging you because you do a lot of testing on magplar.

<<<Templar>>>
Undodgeable skills:
Radial Sweep (both morphs)
Puncturing Strikes (both morphs) (Puncturing Sweeps Snare can not be dodged or blocked)
Explosive Charge
Sun shield (both morphs)
Nova + Nova Synergy (both morphs)
Solar Barrage + Defile from Dark Flare
Radiant Destruction (both morphs)

Unblockable skills:
Nova (both morphs) + synergy
Sun Fire (only the Dot component)


Undodgeable and unblockable skills:
Eclipse application on enemy (Both Morphs) (Unstable Core: Explosion is undodgeable and unblockable)
Spear Shards DoT (Impact hit can be blocked but not dodged)
Burning Light
Backlash (both morphs)
Ritual of Retribution

Questions:
Eclipse reflected damage dodgeable or undodgeable?
Is the Solar Barrage DoT component undodgeable & unblockable?

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I will restructure the thread again once I have time and list up ALL abilities to get a better overview what each abilities is capable of.

Cinbri

Alcast wrote: »

@Cinbri Can you please double check this, is that info all correct? Tagging you because you do a lot of testing on magplar.

<<<Templar>>>
Undodgeable skills:
Radial Sweep (both morphs)
Puncturing Strikes (both morphs) (Puncturing Sweeps Snare can not be dodged or blocked)
Explosive Charge
Sun shield (both morphs)
Nova + Nova Synergy (both morphs)
Solar Barrage + Defile from Dark Flare
Radiant Destruction (both morphs)

Unblockable skills:
Nova (both morphs) + synergy
Sun Fire (only the Dot component)


Undodgeable and unblockable skills:
Eclipse application on enemy (Both Morphs) (Unstable Core: Explosion is undodgeable and unblockable)
Spear Shards DoT (Impact hit can be blocked but not dodged)
Burning Light
Backlash (both morphs)
Ritual of Retribution

Questions:
Eclipse reflected damage dodgeable or undodgeable?
Is the Solar Barrage DoT component undodgeable & unblockable?

1. Perhaps bugged but now if you are target of Dark Flare and dodged damage part you prevent AoE Defile apply on everyone, so it dodgeable.
2. Burning Light is blockable while sorc's Implosion is unblockable.
3. Eclipse reflected damage is undodgeable.
4. Solar Barrage despite being DoT is blockable and as AoE is undodgeable.
5. Damage and CC part of Nova's synergy are blockable.

Cinbri

@Alcast to be clear. Nova itself is undodgeable and unblockable, but synnergy is blockable.

Zer0oo

All dot component that are sticking on a player are unblockable:

• poison inj
• burning embers
• bleeds(they also ignore all resistances)
• ...

All mag ground aoes are unblockable and dodgeable:

• Woe
• Lquid lightning
• Ash cloud
• warden ground ice aoe
• ...

(Not sure if you really want to list all)

Warden:
Arctic Blast is undodgeable and i think also unblockable

Sorc:
Encase maybe theoretical undodgeble but it's only function is too root but after a dodge roll you are immun to it.

Also not sure why you listed healing/support skills as undodgeable that only target your own team members at least they tried to fix every support skill that you no longer can dodge it. (healing springs, blessing of protection, rapid maneuver, guard...)


In general all physical aoes were normally dodgeable(most still are) till zos changed in one patch leap to undodgeable with a dodgy statement and now everyone wants to interpret it as should all physical aoe undodgeable.

Alcast

Okay I changed the list for classes again. If there is any mistakes or stuff to add let me know.

Will do the others later

Cinbri

Alcast wrote: »

Okay I changed the list for classes again. If there is any mistakes or stuff to add let me know.

Will do the others later

Backlash also unblockable. Toppling Charge is dodgeable.

DDuke

Killer's Blade is dodgeable btw (atleast on Live), just tested it.

Alcast

Cinbri wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Okay I changed the list for classes again. If there is any mistakes or stuff to add let me know.

Will do the others later

Backlash also unblockable. Toppling Charge is dodgeable.

DDuke wrote: »

Killer's Blade is dodgeable btw (atleast on Live), just tested it.

thanks, updated the list.

WuffyCerulei

So long as they don't make Rune Cage blockable or dodgeable, I'll be happy. It's amazing counterplay against permablocking tanks and turbo-dodgers.

DDuke

Assassin's Blade (unmorphed) is undodgeable btw, tested on PTS.

krathos

DDuke wrote: »

Assassin's Blade (unmorphed) is undodgeable btw, tested on PTS.

Also tested on live. Please fix!

IZZEFlameLash

I am pretty sure Burning Embers is dodgeable. On live, when people dodge roll right after the root, my burning embers animation is cast and sfx played but they never take dot damage.

DDuke

IZZESparkling wrote: »

I am pretty sure Burning Embers is dodgeable. On live, when people dodge roll right after the root, my burning embers animation is cast and sfx played but they never take dot damage.

It is not.

What you described is what happens when target gets out of range (unlike Flame Lash/Power Lash/Fossilize, Embers has only 5m range) at the same time as you cast the skill.

Alcast

03.02.2018
Dive and morphs to dodgeable and blockable
Searing Strike and morphs to dodgeable and blockable
Cleave: The initial direct damage from this ability and its morphs can now be blocked, but cannot be dodged.
Whirlwind: The damage from this ability and its morphs can now be blocked, but cannot be dodged.

if someone can comfirm that those changes are actually working, would be great.

DDuke

Alcast wrote: »

03.02.2018
Dive and morphs to dodgeable and blockable
Searing Strike and morphs to dodgeable and blockable
Cleave: The initial direct damage from this ability and its morphs can now be blocked, but cannot be dodged.
Whirlwind: The damage from this ability and its morphs can now be blocked, but cannot be dodged.

if someone can comfirm that those changes are actually working, would be great.

Tested some of those:

Steel Tornado & Brawler are confirmed undodgeable.
Embers is dodgeable.

Also tested Power Extraction (still dodgeable) & Bombard/Acid Spray (still dodgeable), and I didn't have time to test it, but I suspect WW Claws are still dodgeable as well contrary to the ruleset set out by ZOS.

Gonna test do some more comprehensive testing tomorrow.

alainjbrennanb16_ESO

nb's can dodge everything so list for them means nothing

Lapin_Logic

Lag is Unblockable and undodgeable.
More so since the server communication rework essentially Doubled the Ping as you now have to hear back from the server not just communicate to the server #BigBrainMove

MincVinyl

Might be worth mentioning that all forms of dragon leap can pull the defender out of dodge roll regardless of immunity. I believe this is due to zos keeping it on the old gap close rules. I believe the dw dagger gap closer works in the same way, but worth testing.

honestly wish any undodgeable/unblockables were only on abilities with skill shot aspects to them. For instance leap could work like caltrops. Point and aim at a location>jump>aoe hit+stun in that location.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv7aZlwpl3I&amp;ab_channel=MincVinyl

ZOS_ConnorG

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