Activity finder for trials and dragonstar arena for those who just want a pug group

akl77

Having to go Craglorn and shout lfg for pug trial or dsa is a pain, can we please have an activity finder for us that just wanna pug a VAA, vhrc, vdsa etc.
Grouping shouldn’t be such a pain, look at final fantasy online, it’s not so tedious getting in a group.
Yes dungeons and battlegrounds have activity finder grouping, but I’ve done dungeons over 3000 times, sometimes we just want a pug trial or dsa.

MLGProPlayer

Yes please

vDSA should absolutely have an activity finder.

They can go ahead and add one for trials too, but vet trials with PUGs will almost certainly fail 99% of the time. Since this game doesn't have voice comms, there is no way to communicate with a PUG (at least on PC).

akl77

Yes please

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

vDSA should absolutely have an activity finder.

They can go ahead and add one for trials too, but vet trials with PUGs will almost certainly fail 99% of the time. Since this game doesn't have voice comms, there is no way to communicate with a PUG (at least on PC).

I pug vet trials all the time, at least for vaa and vhrc they hardly ever fail in pug groups.
PS4 has voice comms, so we don’t have any problems.
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom would you please consider adding activity finder for those who want to pug vdsa and trials, cos shouting in zone for lfg is kinda silly, ff14 wasn’t like this for trials.

Apache_Kid

No

Please fix the current activity finder before adding another one.

kylewwefan

Yes please

I’m a glutton for punishment, so I’d probably try it. I seriously doubt you make it through vet though. There’s a big difference pugging zone chat and your trials guilds.

MLGProPlayer

Yes please

kylewwefan wrote: »

I’m a glutton for punishment, so I’d probably try it. I seriously doubt you make it through vet though. There’s a big difference pugging zone chat and your trials guilds.

I'll take OPs word that he's completed them before. Voice comms make a huge difference. I really wish PC had them.

DoctorESO

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deathcoyrwb17_ESO

Yes please

A dungeon finder for veteran Trials/DSA gonna be hell and a lot of tears but im still up for it provided ZOS includes more filtering options and tools otherwise we'll see a lot of fake tanks/healers, 690CP with 5k dps and other shenanigans. Seriously any cat and dog will queue in DF if they can hit the queue button so we need a way to make sure they're prepared before queueing.

Fingolfinn01

Yes please

I voted yes. Though I think it would hve to be nerfed.

FakeFox

No

It would end up being a complete mess. First of all the dungeon finder barely manages four players, so twelve would probably crash the servers. Secondly running trials without a clear leader doesn't work and a dungeon finder group has no real leader, so everyone just does whatever he wants, this kind of works for dungeons but no chance in trials. A lot of players have never done veteran trials, so the chance of getting a group that mostly has no clue what they are doing is high and I bet 95% of groups would disband quickly as they just stay no chance of completion.

DanielWinterborn

Yes please

FakeFox wrote: »

It would end up being a complete mess. First of all the dungeon finder barely manages four players, so twelve would probably crash the servers. Secondly running trials without a clear leader doesn't work and a dungeon finder group has no real leader, so everyone just does whatever he wants, this kind of works for dungeons but no chance in trials. A lot of players have never done veteran trials, so the chance of getting a group that mostly has no clue what they are doing is high and I bet 95% of groups would disband quickly as they just stay no chance of completion.

Nobody knew dungeons either at the start, look at them now. People learn, that's what they do.

ChuckyPayne

Yes please

Another topic:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/259866/question-for-zos-why-no-trials-option-for-the-activity-finder#latest

FakeFox

No

DanielWinterborn wrote: »

FakeFox wrote: »

It would end up being a complete mess. First of all the dungeon finder barely manages four players, so twelve would probably crash the servers. Secondly running trials without a clear leader doesn't work and a dungeon finder group has no real leader, so everyone just does whatever he wants, this kind of works for dungeons but no chance in trials. A lot of players have never done veteran trials, so the chance of getting a group that mostly has no clue what they are doing is high and I bet 95% of groups would disband quickly as they just stay no chance of completion.

Nobody knew dungeons either at the start, look at them now. People learn, that's what they do.

Yeah, but you just cant compare dungeons to trials in difficulty. You can beat pretty much every veteran dungeon without knowing what you do, not having proper gear or rotation. I would say the majority of players are able to beat non DLC dungeons on veteran, for trails they majority isn't able to I'm pretty sure. And that's not because they don't know the tactics, but because they don't even know their own character well enough to begin with. You just won't beat a veteran trial with a average DPS of 10k, just not going to happen.

Random groups barely beat DLC dungeons and they are a joke compared to trials.

kylewwefan

Yes please

I forgot to mention, my guild just did a nekkid triple crown Run Monday. 3 normal craglorn Trials. Allowed jewelry, weapons and boots. It was a little rough on the tank, but we smashed em out alright. So, at least a normal option should work?

method__01

Yes please

yes for vDSA,no for trials

ccfeeling

Yes please

One more option is not an bad idea

Ilithyania

Yes please

yes plz

ghwaite

Yes please

vDSA yes and maybe normal trials?

Vet Trails would just end up in constant fail runs.

OmniDo

Yes please

Blizzard tried this in WoW.
In the beginning, it was a spectacular wreck, wrought with massive amounts of epic /failure and loads of casual mediocrity.
Blizzard later added a stacking raid-wide damage and stat buff for each successive wipe, ensuring inevitable victory after enough contiguous failure.
It was great for experiencing content but horrible for execution, so the snowflake rewards were reduced to garbage by comparison to regular Looking-for-group tools or regular manual grouping.

Then again, Blizzard also had cumulative item-level assessment and filtering, which greatly helped to weed out the potential liabilities of undergeared players.
Z0$ has nothing like that and it's doubtful they ever will, since they won't even include a group combat log due to the possibility of player stratification and segregation.

Cage_Lizardman

Maybe if it's possible to choose that you only want to join with other players that have at least done it once before. Pugging those things is possible without voice as long as everyone had had enough practice with them to know what to do. But there must be some kind of basic competence check (and not just CP). If the chance to clear is as low as when you queue for vBF/vFH then there's no point.

Sleep

for normal mode

Voxicity

Yes please

For nornal modes at least

phontom78kiss

No

If using a finder for trials or Vdsa becomes a reality, the amount of nerf threads that trials are too hard and need to be made easier just like the vet maelstrom nerf threads would come out of the wood work...but what do I know ...

Runschei

No

Copied my comment from a similar thread.

Imo this is why we have guilds. You simply don't pug dsa and trials, at least not veteran ones. If you're looking for a mate to farm gear I simply suggest putting that out in the zone where the desired gear drops, or in any highly populated zone such as Craglorn. Farming achievements? Somewhat the same situation as farming gear or as first mentioned; guilds.

altemriel

Yes please

akl77 wrote: »

Having to go Craglorn and shout lfg for pug trial or dsa is a pain, can we please have an activity finder for us that just wanna pug a VAA, vhrc, vdsa etc.
Grouping shouldn’t be such a pain, look at final fantasy online, it’s not so tedious getting in a group.
Yes dungeons and battlegrounds have activity finder grouping, but I’ve done dungeons over 3000 times, sometimes we just want a pug trial or dsa.

yes please!!!

Uviryth

Yes please

Definitely. There is nothing worse than shouting "LFG" in zonechat. I hate myself for having to do it.

Surak73

Yes please

deathcoyrwb17_ESO wrote: »

A dungeon finder for veteran Trials/DSA gonna be hell and a lot of tears but im still up for it provided ZOS includes more filtering options and tools otherwise we'll see a lot of fake tanks/healers, 690CP with 5k dps and other shenanigans. Seriously any cat and dog will queue in DF if they can hit the queue button so we need a way to make sure they're prepared before queueing.

And this is probably the reason why ZOS has not implemented it already. When you make a pug group through zone chat, you can at least have some ideas about the players, but with the grouping tool you will find yourself directly in the trial with every person who has just thought "Mh, what I can do this evening? Well, let's see this strange thing, Hall of Fabrication or how is it called"...

Anyway, I'm up for it, after all no one will be forced to use the tool if he doens't like it.

pdebie64b16_ESO

Yes please

Yes please, atleast for DSA, back in the day it was impossible to beat nDSA solo, it wasnt even easy in a group. Now it can be done solo. vDSA is easier to i heard and with the much higher cp, Maelstrom weapons and better gear sets i think it can be pugged without to much problems.

Offcourse there is a chance being in a bad group just like pugging in vet dungeons. But atleast its easier to do/try a vDSA run instead of begging for hours to get a DSA group in zone chat.

Tasear

Yes please

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Please fix the current activity finder before adding another one.

It works just fine.

sevomd69

Yes please

At least for normal Craglorn trials and normal AS...all you need is one semi-competent tank and healer to complete...and one person willing to explain the "mechanics" (e.g. stacking on the paper pile in Storm Atro boss in AA)...now vet is all whole different animal...

Neyane

Other

I believe 100% that normal trials should have a group finder. Vet though? I don’t know, it depends on how good the pug is. Though nDSA and vDSA should definitely be in there.