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  • Sotomaior
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    jchrist21 wrote: »
    Sotomaior wrote: »
    jchrist21 wrote: »
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    jchrist21 wrote: »
    I'll see it tonight :smile:

    Yesterday I proved my actual set with buff. Spell critical is always the same, but spell damage increase to 3100. So, the damage is really good, but the critical chance is low.
    Didn't use the power surge, i think is better inner light. But critical % is still near 45%.

    Italian? Witch platform? Are u in a guild? (Sei in una gilda?) Ciao

    Ahahah ciao!! No attualmente sono in 4 gilde. Una di trial e tre piccole di trader. Niente di chè. PS4 la piattaforma

    If u are interested,i'm in an italian guild on ps4.we do end game content...


    Mandami pure l'invito. Mi chiamo jchrist21. Stasera faccio pulizia delle gilde inutili e accetto la tua :smiley:

    Ok
  • Lord-Otto
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    @Oreyn_Bearclaw

    Hey, btw, what's the general consensus on the AS destro? Worth using over fourth trials set bonus? Just one in group? Or is it redundant no matter what?
    =3
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    @Oreyn_Bearclaw

    Hey, btw, what's the general consensus on the AS destro? Worth using over fourth trials set bonus? Just one in group? Or is it redundant no matter what?
    =3

    If you have a perfect asylum staff AND run a force pulse build, it is absolutely Best in Slot. If you are running a heavy attack build, it's frankly worthless. If you have a non-perfect asylum staff, I think its close to a wash with a trial staff (edit: again assuming you run a FP build).
    Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on January 12, 2018 6:45PM
  • Lord-Otto
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    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    @Oreyn_Bearclaw

    Hey, btw, what's the general consensus on the AS destro? Worth using over fourth trials set bonus? Just one in group? Or is it redundant no matter what?
    =3

    If you have a perfect asylum staff AND run a force pulse build, it is absolutely Best in Slot. If you are running a heavy attack build, it's frankly worthless. If you have a non-perfect asylum staff, I think its close to a wash with a trial staff.

    That just warmed my heart, thank youuu!
    =3
  • monktoasty
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    Necro 5 julianos 5 pump all into magicka and Mundus Stone that gives Magicka.

    Your spell damage won't look high in number..but the high Magicka and crit will basically be doing insane damage.

    Magicka is best state for running a pet build
  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    And as a race without Mag regen, such as a Dunmer... what magicka regen would be an ideal?
  • X3ina
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    And as a race without Mag regen, such as a Dunmer... what magicka regen would be an ideal?

    Depends on a build, and a group support
    HA pet build = 800ish reg average
    FP petless build = 1200ish
    SW GoH > ESO
  • Vahrokh
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    X3ina wrote: »
    And as a race without Mag regen, such as a Dunmer... what magicka regen would be an ideal?

    Depends on a build, and a group support
    HA pet build = 800ish reg average
    FP petless build = 1200ish

    That's exactly what I do on my Dunmer magsorc.
  • jchrist21
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    I'm an highelf. But idk if I've completed the build.

    Now I deal 30k damage with the crystals when I'm good. An average of 20/28k of damage with curse and crystals.
  • Cybercore_Death
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    One thing I would say is don’t just go off the tool tip for the heavy hitters like that. Your dots / light and heavy attacks also account for damage (more so than one off hits like frags etc)
    I'm a Dunmer DK Damage Dealer - My that's a lot of D's
  • jchrist21
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    Ok I know, but how can other people deal more than 38k damage with a crystal?
    Now I've 46k magicka.. If I change my mundus from the mage to something can give me spell power?

    I don't really know :disappointed:
  • Asardes
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    Most magicka skills scale with both spell damage and maximum magicka/10.5. Pet damage and shields are the only exception since they only scale with the latter. Light and heavy attacks scale mostly with the former, so the ratio of maximum magicka is closer to 40. So if you stack a lot of magicka but neglect spell damage you will be decreasing the amount of damage those do. As light and heavy attacks are 15-20% of your DPS, that's not a good idea.
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  • jchrist21
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    Tonight I will try both with the mage and the apprentice.

    But I really don't understand why my crit % is so low. Really, 45% is nothing ahah.
  • Sotomaior
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    jchrist21 wrote: »
    Ok I know, but how can other people deal more than 38k damage with a crystal?
    Now I've 46k magicka.. If I change my mundus from the mage to something can give me spell power?

    I don't really know :disappointed:

    More points in master at arms,more damage to frags and every other direct damage skill
    Also with an inferno staff in main your damage in single target will increase by 8%
    Edited by Sotomaior on January 16, 2018 6:19AM
  • LadyNalcarya
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    jchrist21 wrote: »
    I'm an highelf. But idk if I've completed the build.

    Now I deal 30k damage with the crystals when I'm good. An average of 20/28k of damage with curse and crystals.

    Have you tested your dps on a target dummy?
    Cause thats the best way to compare setups. Damage from a single skill can seem very high (thats why so many new players fall into snipe spam trap lol), but your overall dps depends on many factors, and your rotation is the most important of them.
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  • jchrist21
    jchrist21
    So. News.
    I've changed mundus from mage to apprentice. Now I've 42k max magicka.
    Yesterday in the daily pledge I saw my stats during the battles (lol).

    I reached a max of spell damage of 4100, but the average was 3000. A spell critical of 50%. Magicka 42k as always.
    In the main staff I've placed power surge instead of inner light (I've to try to put it in the second bar).
    You would think that's really good, but when I istant cast the crystal fragments it deals 28k of damage. Not so much I think. The % of crit in the inferno staff (the one I use for single target, with force pulse, prey, crushing) was like 50% but I think I'm really unlucky, so most of damages were white :neutral:

    I have to try with a target dummy, maybe tonight in someone's house..
  • Vahrokh
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    jchrist21 wrote: »
    So. News.
    I've changed mundus from mage to apprentice. Now I've 42k max magicka.
    Yesterday in the daily pledge I saw my stats during the battles (lol).

    I reached a max of spell damage of 4100, but the average was 3000. A spell critical of 50%. Magicka 42k as always.
    In the main staff I've placed power surge instead of inner light (I've to try to put it in the second bar).
    You would think that's really good, but when I istant cast the crystal fragments it deals 28k of damage. Not so much I think. The % of crit in the inferno staff (the one I use for single target, with force pulse, prey, crushing) was like 50% but I think I'm really unlucky, so most of damages were white :neutral:

    I have to try with a target dummy, maybe tonight in someone's house..

    I have yet to have a parse where my crit % goes well above the bare minimum.
    Youtubers usually get that 1 parse out of a million that achieves that, and rush to post it as a video >:)
  • Sotomaior
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    jchrist21 wrote: »
    So. News.
    I've changed mundus from mage to apprentice. Now I've 42k max magicka.
    Yesterday in the daily pledge I saw my stats during the battles (lol).

    I reached a max of spell damage of 4100, but the average was 3000. A spell critical of 50%. Magicka 42k as always.
    In the main staff I've placed power surge instead of inner light (I've to try to put it in the second bar).
    You would think that's really good, but when I istant cast the crystal fragments it deals 28k of damage. Not so much I think. The % of crit in the inferno staff (the one I use for single target, with force pulse, prey, crushing) was like 50% but I think I'm really unlucky, so most of damages were white :neutral:

    I have to try with a target dummy, maybe tonight in someone's house..

    Io ti *** invitato,da me c'è tutto.
    I send u an invite in my guild,we've everything in guild house
  • jchrist21
    jchrist21
    Sotomaior wrote: »
    jchrist21 wrote: »
    So. News.
    I've changed mundus from mage to apprentice. Now I've 42k max magicka.
    Yesterday in the daily pledge I saw my stats during the battles (lol).

    I reached a max of spell damage of 4100, but the average was 3000. A spell critical of 50%. Magicka 42k as always.
    In the main staff I've placed power surge instead of inner light (I've to try to put it in the second bar).
    You would think that's really good, but when I istant cast the crystal fragments it deals 28k of damage. Not so much I think. The % of crit in the inferno staff (the one I use for single target, with force pulse, prey, crushing) was like 50% but I think I'm really unlucky, so most of damages were white :neutral:

    I have to try with a target dummy, maybe tonight in someone's house..

    Io ti *** invitato,da me c'è tutto.
    I send u an invite in my guild,we've everything in guild house

    Grazie, stasera accetto
  • jchrist21
    jchrist21
    1st try
    Target skeleton robust argonian: 15360.4 DPS in 1m45s
    2nd try
    Target skeleton humanoid: 15652.7 DPS in 1m30s
    3rd (te one I tried to play best)
    Target skeleton humanoid: 19170.0 DPS in 1m

    So?

    @Sotomaior non mi è arrivato nulla :cry:
  • jchrist21
    jchrist21
    Without ultimate. Sorry the repost
  • Sotomaior
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    jchrist21 wrote: »
    1st try
    Target skeleton robust argonian: 15360.4 DPS in 1m45s
    2nd try
    Target skeleton humanoid: 15652.7 DPS in 1m30s
    3rd (te one I tried to play best)
    Target skeleton humanoid: 19170.0 DPS in 1m

    So?

    @Sotomaior non mi è arrivato nulla :cry:

    Domani ti invito (tomorrow I'll send invite)
    15 / 19 k dps...there's something wrong.
    Join my guild,we can explain how to improve your damage very quickly.maybe you're not weaving or cancelling,bar-swapping .
    Stai sbagliando sicuramente qualcosa perché quel dps è veramente basso
  • jchrist21
    jchrist21
    :bawling: I know.
  • Asardes
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    If you can only pull 15K DPS how did you manage to do vAA? :)
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    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
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    Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
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  • jchrist21
    jchrist21
    I've already done vAA without any problem. But I want to do better than this.
  • Flips
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    As someone said above, you need to have lover as mondus stone and like 45-50 in spell erosion. Very important for dummy parses. Much more important then crit rates.
    Soon cp1000

  • Sotomaior
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    jchrist21 wrote: »
    I've already done vAA without any problem. But I want to do better than this.

    Someone carried you (ti hanno carriato ) ;)
    Vieni che ti portiamo a 30/35k in 2 giorni
    Come,we'll explain you how to reach 30/35k in a couple of days
    Then you can pull 40k+ with a mael staff in back
  • jchrist21
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    @Sotomaior ancora non mi è arrivato nulla :disappointed:
  • Sotomaior
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    jchrist21 wrote: »
    @Sotomaior ancora non mi è arrivato nulla :disappointed:

    Ti *** invitato 2 volte.aggiungimi tu : psn massimoali

    I've invited you a couple of times...add me in psn
    Edited by Sotomaior on January 18, 2018 11:02AM
  • Giraffon
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    I've been lurking on this thread and "Frankensteined" a build together based on the suggestions here. It goes against all of my tanking instincts and throws caution into the wind in the name of doing damage. It was a very unnatural act for me to create such a character, but I pushed onward and ended up with one of the highest DPS sorcs I've ever created. So thanks everyone for the advise and suggestions!

    The two /facepalm revelations I had while doing this:
    - enchanting jewelry for spell damage
    - realizing that if you do enough damage fast enough...nothing else even matters most of the time


    Giraffon - Beta Lizard - For the Pact!
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