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DON'T limit the Transmog System...

  • MaddPowered
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    You should not be able to tranmog Monster Sets, Maelstrom Weapons, Master Weapons or Asylum Weapons.
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  • Zordrage
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    You should not be able to tranmog Monster Sets, Maelstrom Weapons, Master Weapons or Asylum Weapons.

    so basically nothing end game ? then whats the point of transmog ? Ugly and miss matched set at endgame is one of the major reason people want transmogs....

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    Edited by Zordrage on December 31, 2017 1:44AM
  • Aliyavana
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    You should not be able to tranmog Monster Sets, Maelstrom Weapons, Master Weapons or Asylum Weapons.

    Grothdar and other sets look *** ugly af and are the entire reason people resort to costumes at endgame. You can already hide your armor at endgame with costumes so WTH NOT
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    They are unique items and they should keep the appearance. vMA / master / asylum are items you actually need to work for. To appearance change them will ruin the value and defeat the purpose of them having their own UNIQUE look. For pick up sets such as Necro or Sunderflame, You should be able to,
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  • WhiteCoatSyndrome
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    They are unique items and they should keep the appearance. vMA / master / asylum are items you actually need to work for. To appearance change them will ruin the value and defeat the purpose of them having their own UNIQUE look.

    I don't follow your logic. People go after those for the stats, and if they want the particular look of the originals they'd keep it as-is.
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    They are unique items and they should keep the appearance. vMA / master / asylum are items you actually need to work for. To appearance change them will ruin the value and defeat the purpose of them having their own UNIQUE look.

    I don't follow your logic. People go after those for the stats, and if they want the particular look of the originals they'd keep it as-is.

    THIS . its not like changing your appearance is going to be force. just like you can chose not to wear costumes right now, you can chose to keep appearance of your weapons.
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  • Zordrage
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    They are unique items and they should keep the appearance. vMA / master / asylum are items you actually need to work for. To appearance change them will ruin the value and defeat the purpose of them having their own UNIQUE look. For pick up sets such as Necro or Sunderflame, You should be able to,

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    a Transmog system is Optional... you don't need to use it... you will just as well be able to Show off your Leet gear you got with your Mad Pixel Defeating skills......
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    Edited by Zordrage on December 31, 2017 3:03AM
  • Vanthras79
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    I am really tired of the red weapons. I just hope this is not crown store exclusive, but I am not holding my breath...
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  • Zordrage
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    Vanthras79 wrote: »
    I am really tired of the red weapons. I just hope this is not crown store exclusive, but I am not holding my breath...

    i think it will be locked behind a Sub like the crafting Bag...

    but i don't think they will go the crown store route.... the amount of rage and Hate that would generate from the community would be Chatastropic.... i know some people will outright leave if that happens... players will only see greed.. especialy as a MMO with a SUB OPTION....

    I mean your Subbed paying monthly and you would still be locked out of transmog ? yeah that gonna end well for the devs..
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    Edited by Zordrage on December 31, 2017 3:14AM
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    Wow i sure am getting ripped on for having an OPINION
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  • Zordrage
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    Wow i sure am getting ripped on for having an OPINION

    the prob is the Reasons your building your Opinion on is false.....

    we have costumes that already do the stuff that in your opinion should not be allowed/possible...
    transmog would not and CANT make it worse for you then what costumes already do...


    so not having a 100% free Transmog System because of these OPINIONS sound reeeeeealy silly
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    Edited by Zordrage on December 31, 2017 4:42AM
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    I'd -really- like for them not to do this.

    Like half the armor in this game you would never use, Medium seems to be the general thing you'd see on most soldiers if we were going to realism.
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    Zordrage wrote: »
    Wow i sure am getting ripped on for having an OPINION

    the prob is the Reasons your building your Opinion on is false.....

    we have costumes that already do the stuff that in your opinion should not be allowed/possible...
    transmog would not and CANT make it worse for you then what costumes already do...


    so not having a 100% free Transmog System because of these OPINIONS sound reeeeeealy silly
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    I said that vMA, Master and Asylum and Monster set pieces should not be able to be transmogged because that would Defeat their purpose What would be the point of having a concept of monster helmets when you can just change it to daedric? Same with Maelstrom weapons etc. I said that i am pro for transmog for Everything but these sets I've listed. So who are you to tell me that my opinion is false when it is perfectly reasonable.
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    vHOF - 4D (PC NA) - 232,362 - 14:11 Greymoor
    vAS - 4D (PC NA) - 117,014 - 2:41 Stonethorn
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    vSS - 4D (PC NA) - 255,552 - 21:34 Greymoor
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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Zordrage wrote: »
    Wow i sure am getting ripped on for having an OPINION

    the prob is the Reasons your building your Opinion on is false.....

    we have costumes that already do the stuff that in your opinion should not be allowed/possible...
    transmog would not and CANT make it worse for you then what costumes already do...


    so not having a 100% free Transmog System because of these OPINIONS sound reeeeeealy silly
    .

    I said that vMA, Master and Asylum and Monster set pieces should not be able to be transmogged because that would Defeat their purpose What would be the point of having a concept of monster helmets when you can just change it to daedric? Same with Maelstrom weapons etc. I said that i am pro for transmog for Everything but these sets I've listed. So who are you to tell me that my opinion is false when it is perfectly reasonable.

    Transmog is just a coverup so players can look they way they like . We already have costume armors that can cover all monsters sets this way currently . You're proposal would reverse what we already enjoy and would make the new system less desirable then costumes that already defeat what you've proposed . Of course you can have any opinion you want just try to understand why so many do not see the logic behind it . Are you proposing to reverse costumes that already hide monster sets ? That would be the only way your idea would achieve what you think is right Ingame .
  • Maura_Neysa
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    Zordrage wrote: »
    To Armor type...

    Most of the MMOs out there that has a Transmog system at place usually limit it to Armor type ( Light Medium heavy )

    what i mean by this is Heavy armor only can be Transmoged with another Heavy armor and light armor with light etcetc...

    DON'T put a limit like that in this game pls..... Let us Transmog freely in this game our armor pieces...

    You do realize Transmog is going to let you change the style, thats it. You're going to be able to make your Necropotence set in CelestiaI instead of Argoinian, it will still be light armor.

    @Maura_Neysa

    I think it’s too early to rule out not being able to change the style from heavy to light ... ZOS hasn’t rolled out the system yet.

    Some armor styles actually look like a different weight entirely anyway ... such as Mazzatun heavy.

    You might be right, but let’s wait until (fingers crossed) next week for the PTS debut.

    @Taleof2Cities Fair enough, I set what people are asking for now. Making it look a light armor style while still functioning as heavy. I can almost see this as okay, but I do think an Axe should stay an Axe, so where exactly draw the line? The simplest answer is that it stays what it is. Axe can't be made to look like a sword and heavy armor can't be made to look light. For a more extrem sample Battle Axe can't look like a Lighting Staff.
    Edited by Maura_Neysa on December 31, 2017 5:35AM
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    Zordrage wrote: »
    Wow i sure am getting ripped on for having an OPINION

    the prob is the Reasons your building your Opinion on is false.....

    we have costumes that already do the stuff that in your opinion should not be allowed/possible...
    transmog would not and CANT make it worse for you then what costumes already do...


    so not having a 100% free Transmog System because of these OPINIONS sound reeeeeealy silly
    .

    I said that vMA, Master and Asylum and Monster set pieces should not be able to be transmogged because that would Defeat their purpose What would be the point of having a concept of monster helmets when you can just change it to daedric? Same with Maelstrom weapons etc. I said that i am pro for transmog for Everything but these sets I've listed. So who are you to tell me that my opinion is false when it is perfectly reasonable.

    Transmog is just a coverup so players can look they way they like . We already have costume armors that can cover all monsters sets this way currently . You're proposal would reverse what we already enjoy and would make the new system less desirable then costumes that already defeat what you've proposed . Of course you can have any opinion you want just try to understand why so many do not see the logic behind it . Are you proposing to reverse costumes that already hide monster sets ? That would be the only way your idea would achieve what you think is right Ingame .

    The point of my argument is that unique items should remain UNIQUE. How hard is it for people to understand?
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  • Maura_Neysa
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    Zordrage wrote: »
    Wow i sure am getting ripped on for having an OPINION

    the prob is the Reasons your building your Opinion on is false.....

    we have costumes that already do the stuff that in your opinion should not be allowed/possible...
    transmog would not and CANT make it worse for you then what costumes already do...


    so not having a 100% free Transmog System because of these OPINIONS sound reeeeeealy silly
    .

    I said that vMA, Master and Asylum and Monster set pieces should not be able to be transmogged because that would Defeat their purpose What would be the point of having a concept of monster helmets when you can just change it to daedric? Same with Maelstrom weapons etc. I said that i am pro for transmog for Everything but these sets I've listed. So who are you to tell me that my opinion is false when it is perfectly reasonable.

    Transmog is just a coverup so players can look they way they like . We already have costume armors that can cover all monsters sets this way currently . You're proposal would reverse what we already enjoy and would make the new system less desirable then costumes that already defeat what you've proposed . Of course you can have any opinion you want just try to understand why so many do not see the logic behind it . Are you proposing to reverse costumes that already hide monster sets ? That would be the only way your idea would achieve what you think is right Ingame .

    The point of my argument is that unique items should remain UNIQUE. How hard is it for people to understand?

    I think that you shouldn't be able to make items look like the unquie items. What does it matter if someone ones to make thier unquie item look like something not unquie.

    That being said, the Master Frost Staff is Draugre so how unqiue are the rest of them?? Certainly not trying to copy my Master Resto or Flame staff either, maybe the Asylum Shield.
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  • Orticia
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    yes to transmorg to all different weights looks wise no matter the original. Also yes to transmorg to whatever gear level. And yes to easy to use lots of freedom, grind free for everyone implementation. The more freedom the better.
    And yes to weapon transmorg as well, though here bows should remain bows and such. No matter how hilarious it might be, whacking a troll around the head with a bow looking transmorged greatsword would look silly :)
    And please please not money spend exclusive, so NOT ESO+ only, nor crown store exclusive. Costume dying is locked behind that already, even if you spend money on costumes.
    Edited by Orticia on December 31, 2017 8:16AM
  • Streega
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    First, it won't happen - and praise the Nine for that! Why? It would hurt the Crown Store, and I'm sure ZO$ wouldn't like it, don't you think? Also, with my limited knowledge of programming I think it is rather hard to code such a thing without creating incredible mess.
    Secondly, what next? Bikini armours? Y'all need a reality check, because you behave like toddlers who want it all and want it now. To be able to change the style is awesome and totally within a reason. Anything more than that is just Final Fantasy, and I didn't spend around 500 EUR so far to play some K-pop game. Keep it real folks, please... Even magic has it's limits - you can't make something out of nothing or teleport to a place you've never seen.
    Zordrage wrote: »
    Wow i sure am getting ripped on for having an OPINION

    the prob is the Reasons your building your Opinion on is false.....

    we have costumes that already do the stuff that in your opinion should not be allowed/possible...
    transmog would not and CANT make it worse for you then what costumes already do...


    so not having a 100% free Transmog System because of these OPINIONS sound reeeeeealy silly
    .

    I said that vMA, Master and Asylum and Monster set pieces should not be able to be transmogged because that would Defeat their purpose What would be the point of having a concept of monster helmets when you can just change it to daedric? Same with Maelstrom weapons etc. I said that i am pro for transmog for Everything but these sets I've listed. So who are you to tell me that my opinion is false when it is perfectly reasonable.

    Transmog is just a coverup so players can look they way they like . We already have costume armors that can cover all monsters sets this way currently . You're proposal would reverse what we already enjoy and would make the new system less desirable then costumes that already defeat what you've proposed . Of course you can have any opinion you want just try to understand why so many do not see the logic behind it . Are you proposing to reverse costumes that already hide monster sets ? That would be the only way your idea would achieve what you think is right Ingame .

    The point of my argument is that unique items should remain UNIQUE. How hard is it for people to understand?

    I agree they should be unique, however I also agree that the Monster Sets and Maelstom Weapons are so fugly... But if I can transmog my ugly armour to something I don't have to cover with a costume, I will wear those monstrosities with pride :)
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  • Sotha_Sil
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    You should not be able to tranmog Monster Sets, Maelstrom Weapons, Master Weapons or Asylum Weapons.

    If you mean using the looks of these weapons/armors on other weapons/armors, I could agree and I understand, because their looks are unique, although I would rather complete freedom on the matter. If people have these weapons in their possession already (bind on pick up system), they can use it wherever they like.


    If you mean changing the looks on these weapons/armor for something crafter or any other style, then I disagree. I don't see why people shouldn't have the choice to change it if they don't like it.
    Edited by Sotha_Sil on December 31, 2017 9:09AM
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  • ThePrinceOfBargains
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    They are unique items and they should keep the appearance. vMA / master / asylum are items you actually need to work for. To appearance change them will ruin the value and defeat the purpose of them having their own UNIQUE look.
    Backwards ass logic. That’s a detriment to the player that decides to transmog it, not you or anyone else that wouldn’t. They personally wouldn’t be able to display it like a trophy, as most people do. What does that have to do with anyone else or the value of the item? You would still be able to display it because like you said, the style is unique.

    At best, they should make it so you can’t transmog random weapons into certain end game styles. But transmogging the end game weapons into other styles is a non-issue.
    Edited by ThePrinceOfBargains on December 31, 2017 9:57AM
  • Aliyavana
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    Zordrage wrote: »
    Wow i sure am getting ripped on for having an OPINION

    the prob is the Reasons your building your Opinion on is false.....

    we have costumes that already do the stuff that in your opinion should not be allowed/possible...
    transmog would not and CANT make it worse for you then what costumes already do...


    so not having a 100% free Transmog System because of these OPINIONS sound reeeeeealy silly
    .

    I said that vMA, Master and Asylum and Monster set pieces should not be able to be transmogged because that would Defeat their purpose What would be the point of having a concept of monster helmets when you can just change it to daedric? Same with Maelstrom weapons etc. I said that i am pro for transmog for Everything but these sets I've listed. So who are you to tell me that my opinion is false when it is perfectly reasonable.

    I EARNED MY VMA, ASYLUM, etc weapons. It sucks that I will never use my asylum bows appearance by your logic as it's *** ability wise. I EARNED my vma weapons I should be able to transmog over or to them
    Edited by Aliyavana on December 31, 2017 10:03AM
  • TheValar85
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    aliyavana wrote: »
    no.

    No to not limiting or no to limiting it?

    no to the not limiting it...like seriously is like having an EP style heavy armor crafted and then magically make it look like mazzatun lvl 1 looking... just no.i want transmogs to be locked to the type...for various reasons and 1 of them is cuz it makes sense...

    no it dosen't makes any sense it is stupid, not constructive at all, and it hase nothing to do with cosmetics.

    On Topic i agree there shouldn't been any restrictions or limits, thes feature is just a cosmetic thing, no need to be restricted in anyway. If ZOS put into restrictions the point of transmog system will lost instantly. Not to meantion the mog shouldn't cost anything just golds. I am not a scrub nor a poor lad, but there are alot of community meber who dsoen't want to see store related options as a currency to transmog ingame. how ever i am not up to the idea to buy some transmog sets from crownstore :P
    Edited by TheValar85 on December 31, 2017 10:59AM
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  • Orticia
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    The point of my argument is that unique items should remain UNIQUE. How hard is it for people to understand?

    What about simply not transmorging your Unique pieces then if you want to keep that unique look. And let anyone else that does not want that look but does want the stats transmorg them to a non-unique look. Voila your non transmorged unique look is suddenly even more unique.... win win.

    Unless you ment I do not wish non-unique items being transmorged into unique looking items. Then I can see a point in that. Depending how the transmorg works. If you need to have earned the unique item yourself for the look for instance a WMA bow, by all means make other bows look like it. You already earned the look by doing the work.

    Besides we don't even know how it will work and what can be transmuted and what not and how.
    Edited by Orticia on December 31, 2017 12:33PM
  • Emmagoldman
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    At first I was against your idea, but the fact that you can wear costumes and hats convinced me. If you can already do this with the costume sustem, I see no problem
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    Why would than zenimax bother in creat one style for each type of armor. Do you realize that your petition is totally childish right?
  • Zordrage
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    teladoy wrote: »
    Why would than zenimax bother in creat one style for each type of armor. Do you realize that your petition is totally childish right?

    i have no idea what are you trying to say here .... elaborate...
  • GaunterODim
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    I would LOVE to be able to coat my max level weapons with other metals like dwemer, ebon ore or just simple iron. I have seen enough red weapons that dont fit my outfits by now.
  • GaunterODim
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    And while not caring too much for if you can transmog your unique items or not, I can definetely see arguments to keep them unique. For example in pvp you often have to analyse the playstyle of your opponent.

    If I dont see his Asylum twohander or the bloodspawn shoulders it may take me longer to notice that his build focusses on ult regen or seeing the domihaus shoulders is an indicator that he plays more on max ressources.
    Could totally understand that kind of reasoning.
    Edited by GaunterODim on December 31, 2017 2:05PM
  • ThePrinceOfBargains
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    And while not caring to much for if you can transmog your unique items or not, I can definetely see arguments to keep them unique. For example in pvp you often have to analyse the playstyle of your opponent.

    If I dont see his Asylum twohander or the bloodspawn shoulders it may take me longer to notice that his build focusses on ult regen or seeing the domihaus shoulders is an indicator for him to play more on max ressources.
    Could totally understand that kind of reasoning.
    That’s how it always should’ve been in the first place. You shouldn’t be able to take one look at someone and tell exactly how they’re going to be playing.
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