DON'T limit the Transmog System...

ParaNostram

Recremen wrote: »

But you can wear that costume and actually be using light, heavy, or a completely different set of medium armor. Or you might not be wearing any armor at all! So since we can already do this, we may as well maximize customization by letting us do this for "transmog" as well.

This right here.

kargen27

I would like to be able to take two pieces of armor and combine them. The end result would be one piece of armor with the traits from one of the previous pieces and the look of the other. I go back and forth on whether the piece should be bound to account when created or bound to account when equipped. I am leaning towards bind on equipped because it could really add some relevancy to master crafters. Then again you would need a master crafter to create the armor for the style you want to use as part of the transformation so either way a crafter would be involved.

In PvP we know not to trust our eyes when looking at someones armor so making a heavy piece look light wouldn't affect game play at all there. We also assume everyone is wearing level appropriate gear so seeing someone in what appears to be level three gear isn't going to make us think to ourselves well we don't have to worry about this one look at his armor.

Whatever is consumed in the process (stone crystal ???) should be available both in game and the crown store. The grind to obtain in game shouldn't be easy but shouldn't be overly time consuming nor locked behind certain high level content either. One way would be to add the crystals (if that is what they become) is have them added to the drop pool in writs. Could also add the to the drop pool for refining raw material.

If they really want to complicate things they could give the crystals different levels and require one crystal for each piece of armor. If you want a 160 helm to look like a level 20 helm you would need a 160 crystal and a level 20 crystal. Just think of all the farming we could do!

ecru

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

no.

No to not limiting or no to limiting it?

no to the not limiting it...like seriously is like having an EP style heavy armor crafted and then magically make it look like mazzatun lvl 1 looking... just no.i want transmogs to be locked to the type...for various reasons and 1 of them is cuz it makes sense...

i think you should stop worrying so much about what other people want their characters to look like

Zordrage

altemriel wrote: »

Zordrage wrote: »

To Armor type...

Most of the MMOs out there that has a Transmog system at place usually limit it to Armor type ( Light Medium heavy )

what i mean by this is Heavy armor only can be Transmoged with another Heavy armor and light armor with light etcetc...

DON'T put a limit like that in this game pls..... Let us Transmog freely in this game our armor pieces...

well not sure if it would be good, heavy armor should look heavy, medium should look as medium weight armor, light as light


transmog should be about being able to change the motif (appearance) of the armor/weapons, not its weight

I rather hope, that the "transmog crystals" will not be capped to 100 as the re-trait crystals

im NOT talking about changing the Actual Weight of the armor... im talking about the appereance ( look / Skin ) Only of the armor...

You know transmoging a Light armor to look like a Heavy armor.... but its still a Light armor you dont change the weight ONLY the look...

its just transmog...skin change nothing else...
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Vaoh

PLEASE have transmog affect weapons too (weapon dyes?)....

QuebraRegra

NetViperX wrote: »

I agree and would add that we should also not be limited by armor level, so you could make a cp160 piece of armor look like the lvl 10 version if you want.

THIS 100% seriously...

Yolokin_Swagonborn

QuebraRegra wrote: »

NetViperX wrote: »

I agree and would add that we should also not be limited by armor level, so you could make a cp160 piece of armor look like the lvl 10 version if you want.

THIS 100% seriously...

With these kinds of features, ZOS just needs to get out of their own way. Transmog anything into anything. No limits. No rules. Let people be creative. Just let go ZOS, and let your players create their own content.

Aliyavana

This is what I want my gear to look like in my stamina toon, if zos were to limit transmog I would be unable to use it as the majority of this look comes from light armor. If you were a new player and were to see this outfit you can probably say this outfit looks like medium armor tho but its mostly light

LadyAstrum

Anybody can already wear what they want, so an unlimited transmog system would merely continue the same spirit of free armour expression. Also, if people can swap and change it allows for greater individuality. I'm sure the transmog system will be expensive in some way anyway, either in time or in gold/crowns.

Maura_Neysa

Zordrage wrote: »

To Armor type...

Most of the MMOs out there that has a Transmog system at place usually limit it to Armor type ( Light Medium heavy )

what i mean by this is Heavy armor only can be Transmoged with another Heavy armor and light armor with light etcetc...

DON'T put a limit like that in this game pls..... Let us Transmog freely in this game our armor pieces...

You do realize Transmog is going to let you change the style, thats it. You're going to be able to make your Necropotence set in CelestiaI instead of Argoinian, it will still be light armor.

Nerouyn

I see merit to both sides of this argument but lean towards realism, i.e. heavy armour looks like heavy armour.

Aethereal'Golden

I guess the core point of transmog is to make any piece of armour looks like you want. For me that's the main reason of the whole system. Yes - your top tier light armor may have possibility to be transmoged into medium armor lvl 36 - this makes crafting interesting again, lets you find your character's style without mechanic boundaries. And it's good.
Who wanted to hide their armor - did that, but with costumes and with no creativity, so I totally agree with @Zordrage - this game would be much more vibrant without transmog limits.

Taleof2Cities

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

Zordrage wrote: »

To Armor type...

Most of the MMOs out there that has a Transmog system at place usually limit it to Armor type ( Light Medium heavy )

what i mean by this is Heavy armor only can be Transmoged with another Heavy armor and light armor with light etcetc...

DON'T put a limit like that in this game pls..... Let us Transmog freely in this game our armor pieces...

You do realize Transmog is going to let you change the style, thats it. You're going to be able to make your Necropotence set in CelestiaI instead of Argoinian, it will still be light armor.

@Maura_Neysa

I think it’s too early to rule out not being able to change the style from heavy to light ... ZOS hasn’t rolled out the system yet.

Some armor styles actually look like a different weight entirely anyway ... such as Mazzatun heavy.

You might be right, but let’s wait until (fingers crossed) next week for the PTS debut.

Tommy_The_Gun

As far as I can tell transmog will only be the "style" change. So you can change the style of an armour / weapon - but not the type.

However - it would be cool to be able to change lets say heavy armour set piece to medium armour set piece or light. But that is probably something ZOS will implement at some point after transmog system is implemented.

Cryptical

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

no.

No to not limiting or no to limiting it?

no to the not limiting it...like seriously is like having an EP style heavy armor crafted and then magically make it look like mazzatun lvl 1 looking... just no.i want transmogs to be locked to the type...for various reasons and 1 of them is cuz it makes sense...

Bull carp. You can hide your tank in cp160 gold heavy armor with a nord bathing towel so you appear naked. Not to mention the skeleton or daedric polymorphs that make you appear to not be a player at all.

Anyone relying on appearance is foolish.

notimetocare

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

But arbitrary and unnecessary limits are kinda ZOS's thing...

Gotta think brand identity here.

In the meantime, can we access our guild banks from our guild house, and can our merchant repair?

No such thing as a guild house, so that point is invalid. There is player housing, but not guild housing

olsborg

The only limit I feel should be in place, is light armor can only look light, and heavy only heavy etc etc..

pj4533

Obviously this is all conjecture (but still fun to guess!). Based on the data mining, I’d guess the new system is a “make Costume” button. That way whatever armor you currently have on gets saved to an “outfit” (read: costume). Then that costume can be worn like other costumes, over armor of any type. This way you have to be able to craft the armor you want (or have it crafted for you), and it can be any level/weight/style. Then the armor in question isn’t really changed at all, and it would affect monster sets, overland/dungeon sets, whatever.

At least that is how I HOPE it works!

Vapirko

Sure why not, surprised people honestly care, or maybe I’m not. People get negative about the strangest things. I’d guess they prob won’t make it that way but I’d be fine with it.

Zaldan

olsborg wrote: »

The only limit I feel should be in place, is light armor can only look light, and heavy only heavy etc etc..

why? costumes already make it impossible to tell what someone is wearing, my templar wears 7 light but looks like shes in all heavy, plenty of costumes that are light armour to hide my DK being in full heavy although telling what he's wearing as a werewolf might be tricky

iiYuki

While I want to transmog my awful looking necropotence and Valkyn Skoria or llambris sets to something that actually matches or looks nice, I doubt they will let us.
Why would they when there is a costume in the store priced at 1000 crowns that will do it, they aren't going to price themselves out are they.
Transmog will be as limiting as possible and cost an arm and a leg and be available for ESO+ members, which at least would be a decent reason to keep my sub up outside of the crafting bag.

Aliyavana

olsborg wrote: »

The only limit I feel should be in place, is light armor can only look light, and heavy only heavy etc etc..

LOL

ThePrinceOfBargains

When you try to sound like you know what you’re talking about, but fail miserably:

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

no to the not limiting it...like seriously is like having an EP style heavy armor crafted and then magically make it look like mazzatun lvl 1 looking... just no.i want transmogs to be locked to the type...for various reasons and 1 of them is cuz it makes sense...

Aliyavana

ThePrinceOfBargains wrote: »

When you try to sound like you know what you’re talking about, but fail miserably:

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

no to the not limiting it...like seriously is like having an EP style heavy armor crafted and then magically make it look like mazzatun lvl 1 looking... just no.i want transmogs to be locked to the type...for various reasons and 1 of them is cuz it makes sense...

Feels like me writing my essays and trying to fit in another 20 words

S'yn

Armor should not have limits- costumes already let you look pretty much any way you want now, so what's the point.

I DO think that weapon TYPE should be locked, because that level of "surprise" could at least temporarily tilt the balance in PVP. Ex. you think you are bearing down on a player with a destruction staff and they are actually packing a 2H sword. If you have a 2Hand sword- you should be able to it look like any 2 H sword you can already craft though.

Pheefs

CardboardedBox wrote: »

I want level ranks available as well, since most of the race sets have different appearances at different levels.

yeah, this is the "limiting" I'm wondering about too...

luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Hmm might be a cool idea but something I definately want to see with transmog is the ability to transmog gear into lower tier styles. I just love low level breton light style for example!

this EXACTLY!!!
lower tier style with champion stats, is that so much to ask?!???
I want to both look fabulous and kick the ash

Sheezabeast

What I'm expecting: Being able to transmute a piece of armor into a different style fitting its type. Monster helms to be excluded. The item to be bound.

I can't get disappointed that way.

Motherball

The less options they give with transmog, the less I will care about it. They have a chance to knock it out if the park here.

pj4533 wrote: »

...whatever armor you currently have on gets saved to an “outfit” (read: costume). Then that costume can be worn like other costumes, over armor of any type. This way... it can be any level, weight, or style... and it would affect monster sets, overland, or dungeon sets.

This would do it.

Deltrox

Just please let us hide our guild tabard while still displaying the guild name. Or at least fix the hideous black mesh that happens on any DLC style/armor

Mettaricana

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

no.

No to not limiting or no to limiting it?

no to the not limiting it...like seriously is like having an EP style heavy armor crafted and then magically make it look like mazzatun lvl 1 looking... just no.i want transmogs to be locked to the type...for various reasons and 1 of them is cuz it makes sense...

*is a mag sorc puts on lion guard costume*

Makes sense