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Meridia’s blessed armor set needs a nerf

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  • geonsocal
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    as the saying goes: one person's trash is another's treasure...
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  • idk
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    Nelson_Rebel wrote: »
    This set is incredibly stupidly broken. Whenever you block you have a 33% chance to cause all your attacker’s to miss ALL damage and attacks or effects of any kind for 5 seconds and occurs every 10 seconds.


    This is a stupidly broken set that is what is helping to cause the perma tank cancer in BG’s and Open world cyrodill. This set has a near 90% uptime due to the HIGH percentage chance to occur, the short cooldown period between and the long duration to ignore every single effect (all damage and CC’s and anything else) on you while blocking...

    Heavy armor and sword and board aren’t the problem in PvP. It’s sets like THIS and ravager and other stupidly broken things that cause pvp issues. So please ZoS do some QA on skill sets that are obviously broken, so you can stop nerfing PvE and PvP players

    Clearly you have read the tooltips for the set but maybe did not do the math. it is obvious that it cannot have a 90% uptime if the duration is 6 seconds and the CD is 10 seconds. Mathematically impossible to get anywhere near 90% uptime.

    Not arguing one way or another about the sets effectiveness, but it is outlandish and obvious false information that discredits the entire message making it into nothing more than this set is more than I can deal with nerf it type of thread.
    Edited by idk on December 24, 2017 4:00AM
  • Judas Helviaryn
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    @Nelson_Rebel is kinda right though guys.. the armor set's crazy strong when you use it right.

    Check this out.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7699wmBWIY&feature=youtu.be

    Seriously ZOS. OP Armor like this is the bane of PVA in general, and needs to be nerfed to the ground.
    Nelson_Rebel wrote: »
    This set is incredibly stupidly broken. Whenever you block you have a 33% chance to cause all your attacker’s to miss ALL damage and attacks or effects of any kind for 5 seconds and occurs every 10 seconds.


    This is a stupidly broken set that is what is helping to cause the perma tank cancer in BG’s and Open world cyrodill. This set has a near 90% uptime due to the HIGH percentage chance to occur, the short cooldown period between and the long duration to ignore every single effect (all damage and CC’s and anything else) on you while blocking...

    Heavy armor and sword and board aren’t the problem in PvP. It’s sets like THIS and ravager and other stupidly broken things that cause pvp issues. So please ZoS do some QA on skill sets that are obviously broken, so you can stop nerfing PvE and PvP players
    Nelson_Rebel wrote: »
    SydneyGrey wrote: »
    So this is yet another "everything that kills me in PvP has to be nerfed" thread.

    *Yawns*

    lmfao ok buddy.


    I’m going to wear this set and go duel as many people on the server and upload a video and show you exactly why it’s broken as hell xD lololololol



    Edited by Judas Helviaryn on December 24, 2017 4:29AM
  • generalmyrick
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    Judas Helviaryn wrote: »
    @Nelson_Rebel is kinda right though guys.. the armor set's crazy strong when you use it right.

    Check this out.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7699wmBWIY&feature=youtu.be

    Seriously ZOS. OP Armor like this is the bane of PVA in general, and needs to be nerfed to the ground.
    Nelson_Rebel wrote: »
    This set is incredibly stupidly broken. Whenever you block you have a 33% chance to cause all your attacker’s to miss ALL damage and attacks or effects of any kind for 5 seconds and occurs every 10 seconds.


    This is a stupidly broken set that is what is helping to cause the perma tank cancer in BG’s and Open world cyrodill. This set has a near 90% uptime due to the HIGH percentage chance to occur, the short cooldown period between and the long duration to ignore every single effect (all damage and CC’s and anything else) on you while blocking...

    Heavy armor and sword and board aren’t the problem in PvP. It’s sets like THIS and ravager and other stupidly broken things that cause pvp issues. So please ZoS do some QA on skill sets that are obviously broken, so you can stop nerfing PvE and PvP players
    Nelson_Rebel wrote: »
    SydneyGrey wrote: »
    So this is yet another "everything that kills me in PvP has to be nerfed" thread.

    *Yawns*

    lmfao ok buddy.


    I’m going to wear this set and go duel as many people on the server and upload a video and show you exactly why it’s broken as hell xD lololololol



    Nobody is using it....I've seen it once in a month...
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  • Judas Helviaryn
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    generalmyrick wrote: »
    Judas Helviaryn wrote: »
    @Nelson_Rebel is kinda right though guys.. the armor set's crazy strong when you use it right.

    Check this out.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7699wmBWIY&feature=youtu.be

    Seriously ZOS. OP Armor like this is the bane of PVA in general, and needs to be nerfed to the ground.
    Nelson_Rebel wrote: »
    This set is incredibly stupidly broken. Whenever you block you have a 33% chance to cause all your attacker’s to miss ALL damage and attacks or effects of any kind for 5 seconds and occurs every 10 seconds.


    This is a stupidly broken set that is what is helping to cause the perma tank cancer in BG’s and Open world cyrodill. This set has a near 90% uptime due to the HIGH percentage chance to occur, the short cooldown period between and the long duration to ignore every single effect (all damage and CC’s and anything else) on you while blocking...

    Heavy armor and sword and board aren’t the problem in PvP. It’s sets like THIS and ravager and other stupidly broken things that cause pvp issues. So please ZoS do some QA on skill sets that are obviously broken, so you can stop nerfing PvE and PvP players
    Nelson_Rebel wrote: »
    SydneyGrey wrote: »
    So this is yet another "everything that kills me in PvP has to be nerfed" thread.

    *Yawns*

    lmfao ok buddy.


    I’m going to wear this set and go duel as many people on the server and upload a video and show you exactly why it’s broken as hell xD lololololol



    Nobody is using it....I've seen it once in a month...

    9nohQh4.jpg

    =P
    Edited by Judas Helviaryn on December 24, 2017 4:21AM
  • generalmyrick
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    Judas Helviaryn wrote: »
    generalmyrick wrote: »
    Judas Helviaryn wrote: »
    @Nelson_Rebel is kinda right though guys.. the armor set's crazy strong when you use it right.

    Check this out.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7699wmBWIY&feature=youtu.be

    Seriously ZOS. OP Armor like this is the bane of PVA in general, and needs to be nerfed to the ground.
    Nelson_Rebel wrote: »
    This set is incredibly stupidly broken. Whenever you block you have a 33% chance to cause all your attacker’s to miss ALL damage and attacks or effects of any kind for 5 seconds and occurs every 10 seconds.


    This is a stupidly broken set that is what is helping to cause the perma tank cancer in BG’s and Open world cyrodill. This set has a near 90% uptime due to the HIGH percentage chance to occur, the short cooldown period between and the long duration to ignore every single effect (all damage and CC’s and anything else) on you while blocking...

    Heavy armor and sword and board aren’t the problem in PvP. It’s sets like THIS and ravager and other stupidly broken things that cause pvp issues. So please ZoS do some QA on skill sets that are obviously broken, so you can stop nerfing PvE and PvP players
    Nelson_Rebel wrote: »
    SydneyGrey wrote: »
    So this is yet another "everything that kills me in PvP has to be nerfed" thread.

    *Yawns*

    lmfao ok buddy.


    I’m going to wear this set and go duel as many people on the server and upload a video and show you exactly why it’s broken as hell xD lololololol



    Nobody is using it....I've seen it once in a month...

    9nohQh4.jpg

    =P

    also didn't watch video! ;-) oops
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    Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
    Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"

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  • maxjapank
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    Interested to know if anyone hast tested this recently. I always knew that it only affected one player at a time, but I've heard more and more people are using in recently. Is it broken or bugged?
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    maxjapank wrote: »
    Interested to know if anyone hast tested this recently. I always knew that it only affected one player at a time, but I've heard more and more people are using in recently. Is it broken or bugged?

    Its bugged but not in a good way. The new CCs (the new petrify and the new rune prison thingy) ignore parts of the blind status effect, but not all of it, so if you proc blessed on someone and they use one of those CCs it glitches your char out.
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  • itscompton
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    Nelson_Rebel wrote: »
    SydneyGrey wrote: »
    So this is yet another "everything that kills me in PvP has to be nerfed" thread.

    *Yawns*

    lmfao ok buddy.


    I’m going to wear this set and go duel as many people on the server and upload a video and show you exactly why it’s broken as hell xD lololololol

    Be sure to include the second part where you go into Cyrodiil and get smashed because more than one person is attacking you at a time.

  • eso_lags
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    Nelson_Rebel wrote: »
    This set is incredibly stupidly broken. Whenever you block you have a 33% chance to cause all your attacker’s to miss ALL damage and attacks or effects of any kind for 5 seconds and occurs every 10 seconds.


    This is a stupidly broken set that is what is helping to cause the perma tank cancer in BG’s and Open world cyrodill. This set has a near 90% uptime due to the HIGH percentage chance to occur, the short cooldown period between and the long duration to ignore every single effect (all damage and CC’s and anything else) on you while blocking...

    Heavy armor and sword and board aren’t the problem in PvP. It’s sets like THIS and ravager and other stupidly broken things that cause pvp issues. So please ZoS do some QA on skill sets that are obviously broken, so you can stop nerfing PvE and PvP players

    Do yourself a favor and just walk out of the duels with the scrubs who are running it. Im sure some people just do it for fun, but i just leave.. The set is annoying but thats what it was meant to be.. Its a dueling set.
  • ak_pvp
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    No one in duels allows this seriously. And its ONLY useful for duels.

    And ravager is fine, nerfing everyone's damage to *** ends up with a bunch of potato zergs.
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  • teiselaise
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    Nelson_Rebel wrote: »
    This set is incredibly stupidly broken. Whenever you block you have a 33% chance to cause all your attacker’s to miss ALL damage and attacks or effects of any kind for 5 seconds and occurs every 10 seconds.


    This is a stupidly broken set that is what is helping to cause the perma tank cancer in BG’s and Open world cyrodill. This set has a near 90% uptime due to the HIGH percentage chance to occur, the short cooldown period between and the long duration to ignore every single effect (all damage and CC’s and anything else) on you while blocking...

    Heavy armor and sword and board aren’t the problem in PvP. It’s sets like THIS and ravager and other stupidly broken things that cause pvp issues. So please ZoS do some QA on skill sets that are obviously broken, so you can stop nerfing PvE and PvP players

    Please stop, the sets affect nothing but duels, there's no reason in using it in cyrodil or bg, besides that, please explain to me how you get the uptime to 90% it sounds more like you are cheating than the set being op.
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  • Mannix1958
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    I'm on the nothing to see... move along side. I tried and tested this set some time ago...great for duels limited when you face more combatants...dumped it since I am not a fan of duels.
  • Mister_DMC
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    Nothing wrong with Ravager
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    Cage_Lizardman wrote: »
    But does that really work on more than one target at a time?

    It only works against one opponent at the time. I´ve tested it. You can´t proc it on multiple enemies at once. There was a bug with the set a long time ago when that was possible, but ZOS fixed it. Outside of duels it´s a trash set.
  • BroanBeast1215
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    No. just no. I dont even use the set but asking for it to be further nerfed into uselessness is not a good thing. L2counterplay.
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    BroanBeast1215 wrote: »
    No. just no. I dont even use the set but asking for it to be further nerfed into uselessness is not a good thing. L2counterplay.

    That's kind of bad advice. See, if this set procs on you, there is no counterplay for 5 seconds until the effect wears off. (Besides turtling or running away, which sure that's technically counterplay, but not really?)

    On the other hand, I don't think there's a problem with this set for the vast majority of PVP content in the game. Duels, sure. 1v1 in Cyrodiil or Battlegrounds, that'd be bothersome. But for 4v4v4 and with any sort of numbers in Cyrodiil, Meridia's Blessing isn't going to save that person, it'll just be a momentary annoyance as a few MISS MISS MISS MISS scroll acorss my screen until I can go back to killing that person.

    What is it with people wanting skills and gear in ALL of PVP, 4v4v4 and Cyrodiil's groups of 2-24 players to be nerfed because something is a rather powerful in a 1v1 duel?
  • CromulentForumID
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    Acrolas wrote: »
    Nelson_Rebel wrote: »
    I’m going to wear this set and go duel as many people on the server and upload a video

    You can save your time, as dueling is not the same as either open world or small group PVP and thus the video evidence will not support your argument.
    Acrolas wrote: »
    Nelson_Rebel wrote: »
    I’m going to wear this set and go duel as many people on the server and upload a video

    You can save your time, as dueling is not the same as either open world or small group PVP and thus the video evidence will not support your argument.

    He even specifically left duels out of the original rant :)
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    Judas Helviaryn wrote: »
    @Nelson_Rebel is kinda right though guys.. the armor set's crazy strong when you use it right.

    Check this out.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7699wmBWIY&feature=youtu.be

    Seriously ZOS. OP Armor like this is the bane of PVA in general, and needs to be nerfed to the ground.
    Nelson_Rebel wrote: »
    This set is incredibly stupidly broken. Whenever you block you have a 33% chance to cause all your attacker’s to miss ALL damage and attacks or effects of any kind for 5 seconds and occurs every 10 seconds.


    This is a stupidly broken set that is what is helping to cause the perma tank cancer in BG’s and Open world cyrodill. This set has a near 90% uptime due to the HIGH percentage chance to occur, the short cooldown period between and the long duration to ignore every single effect (all damage and CC’s and anything else) on you while blocking...

    Heavy armor and sword and board aren’t the problem in PvP. It’s sets like THIS and ravager and other stupidly broken things that cause pvp issues. So please ZoS do some QA on skill sets that are obviously broken, so you can stop nerfing PvE and PvP players
    Nelson_Rebel wrote: »
    SydneyGrey wrote: »
    So this is yet another "everything that kills me in PvP has to be nerfed" thread.

    *Yawns*

    lmfao ok buddy.


    I’m going to wear this set and go duel as many people on the server and upload a video and show you exactly why it’s broken as hell xD lololololol



    LOL!
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    Waffennacht wrote: »
    It blows when you're focused on

    It's OP in duels

    But you know when you put this on in duels... You're being a @#_&

    Or want to troll that guy picking on noobs who desperately deserves some payback.
    Hoping for more playable races.

    I just want werewolf to be viable in endgame PvE T.T (which not allowed according to PTS update 50)
  • itscompton
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    Cage_Lizardman wrote: »
    But does that really work on more than one target at a time?

    It only works against one opponent at the time. I´ve tested it. You can´t proc it on multiple enemies at once. There was a bug with the set a long time ago when that was possible, but ZOS fixed it. Outside of duels it´s a trash set.

    To be fair it can be used as an anti-bomber support set in Cryodiil when running in a large group because when it procs it makes the attacker miss everyone. For solo and small group play I agree it's garbage.

    Edited by itscompton on December 24, 2017 7:44PM
  • Smmokkee
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    If you wear heavy armor in pvp you are probably scared what would happen if you didnt.


    I hope tanks get nerfed into ***..
    Edited by Smmokkee on December 24, 2017 7:53PM
  • Qbiken
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    Smmokkee wrote: »
    If you wear heavy armor in pvp you are probably scared what would happen if you didnt.


    I hope tanks get nerfed into ***..

    lmao......
  • Maura_Neysa
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    Nelson_Rebel wrote: »
    This set is incredibly stupidly broken. Whenever you block you have a 33% chance to cause all your attacker’s to miss ALL damage and attacks or effects of any kind for 5 seconds and occurs every 10 seconds.


    This is a stupidly broken set that is what is helping to cause the perma tank cancer in BG’s and Open world cyrodill. This set has a near 90% uptime due to the HIGH percentage chance to occur, the short cooldown period between and the long duration to ignore every single effect (all damage and CC’s and anything else) on you while blocking...

    Heavy armor and sword and board aren’t the problem in PvP. It’s sets like THIS and ravager and other stupidly broken things that cause pvp issues. So please ZoS do some QA on skill sets that are obviously broken, so you can stop nerfing PvE and PvP players

    Actually you genius it has exactly a 16.5% max uptime making it only slightlty better than Hist Bark WHEN 1v1 and much less when 1vX
    33% chance every 10 seconds for 5 seconds. So 0.5 x 0.33.
    The upside to this set is that it allows a tank to apply their set to everyone.
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    Playing BiS isn't impressive, playing unique at BiS lvl, THAT's impressive.


  • Maura_Neysa
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    Nelson_Rebel wrote: »
    Cage_Lizardman wrote: »
    But does that really work on more than one target at a time?

    Yes it’s everything in that timeframe

    It will cause 1 person to miss everything they do against anyone for 5 seconds every 10 seconds. I run this set in PvP on my tank. It doesn’t work on more then 1 person at a time, it also doesn’t work on most Bosses in PvE either. This set is just a group friendly version of Hist Bark
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    Warden Ice Tank (By far my favorite) -RIP #Nerfmire
    Stormproof, Shehai Shatterer, Mageslayer(solo tanked), Ophidian Overlord, Assistant Alienist, Boethiah's Scythe,Maw of Lorkhaj Conqueror, Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor
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    Dragon Knight Healer (Since Homestead)
    Shehai Shatterer, Mageslayer,
    Warden 2x Bow DPS
    Stormproof, Shehai Shatterer, Mageslayer, Ophidian Overlord, Assistant Alienist, Boethiah's Scythe, Maw of Lorkhaj Conqueror, Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor, Sunspire Saint,
    Others
    PvP StamDen, Warden Healer, MagDen, Stamplar, StamSorc, DK Failed Attempt, NB Failed Attempt

    Playing BiS isn't impressive, playing unique at BiS lvl, THAT's impressive.


  • Kalante
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    Smmokkee wrote: »
    If you wear heavy armor in pvp you are probably scared what would happen if you didnt.


    I hope tanks get nerfed into ***..

    Hopefully one day along with all those people that use or switched to argonian for extra survival. Those people in reality are not good.
  • Silver_Strider
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    Kalante wrote: »
    Smmokkee wrote: »
    If you wear heavy armor in pvp you are probably scared what would happen if you didnt.


    I hope tanks get nerfed into ***..

    Hopefully one day along with all those people that use or switched to argonian for extra survival. Those people in reality are not good.

    Hey now, some of us were Argonian before the bandwagon came around.
    Argonian forever
  • Juhasow
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    This set kinda destroyed meaning and fun of duels. Now every scrub can wear it in duel and be immortal.

    I would reccomend to change the 5 piece bonus to for example Major Maim. That would made set usefull in PvE also while tune it down in PvP to the point it's reasonable.
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    Juhasow wrote: »
    This set kinda destroyed meaning and fun of duels. Now every scrub can wear it in duel and be immortal.

    I would reccomend to change the 5 piece bonus to for example Major Maim. That would made set usefull in PvE also while tune it down in PvP to the point it's reasonable.

    You mean like the Knightmare set? http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Knightmare+Set
  • ParaNostram
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    This set definitely doesn't need a nerf. This set is underused as is, just because OP got frustrated and lost a fight and that person happened to be wearing this underused set does not mean it needs nerfed.
    "Your mistake is you begged for your life, not for mercy. I will show you there are many fates worse than death."

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    "Death is a privilege that can be denied by it's learned scholars."
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