Meridia’s blessed armor set needs a nerf

Nelson_Rebel · December 2017

This set is incredibly stupidly broken. Whenever you block you have a 33% chance to cause all your attacker’s to miss ALL damage and attacks or effects of any kind for 5 seconds and occurs every 10 seconds.

This is a stupidly broken set that is what is helping to cause the perma tank cancer in BG’s and Open world cyrodill. This set has a near 90% uptime due to the HIGH percentage chance to occur, the short cooldown period between and the long duration to ignore every single effect (all damage and CC’s and anything else) on you while blocking...

Heavy armor and sword and board aren’t the problem in PvP. It’s sets like THIS and ravager and other stupidly broken things that cause pvp issues. So please ZoS do some QA on skill sets that are obviously broken, so you can stop nerfing PvE and PvP players

Cage_Lizardman · December 2017

But does that really work on more than one target at a time?

Nelson_Rebel · December 2017

Cage_Lizardman wrote: »

But does that really work on more than one target at a time?

Yes it’s everything in that timeframe

GrumpyDuckling · December 2017

You're kidding, right? The set only works against ONE target. In anything outside of 1v1 Meridia's Blessed Armor is often a wasted 5 piece.

VaranisArano · December 2017

You mean you don't like seeing MISS MISS MISS scroll across your screen? Whyever not?

More seriously, I either focus on another target for a bit or keep focusing on that person with the theory that pretty soon I'm going to stop missing and then they'll be out of tricks

Nelson_Rebel · December 2017

GrumpyDuckling wrote: »

You're kidding, right? The set only works against ONE target. In anything outside of 1v1 Meridia's Blessed Armor is often a wasted 5 piece.

It works on more than one target buddy

GrumpyDuckling · December 2017

Nelson_Rebel wrote: »

Cage_Lizardman wrote: »

But does that really work on more than one target at a time?

Yes it’s everything in that timeframe

Incorrect. The set only works against ONE target (you'll see the stars circling their head) and EVERY other target can still hit you.

Cage_Lizardman · December 2017

GrumpyDuckling wrote: »

You're kidding, right? The set only works against ONE target. In anything outside of 1v1 Meridia's Blessed Armor is often a wasted 5 piece.

I thought so. I've been trying this set, and it doesn't seem to do much against multiple people.

GrumpyDuckling · December 2017

Nelson_Rebel wrote: »

GrumpyDuckling wrote: »

You're kidding, right? The set only works against ONE target. In anything outside of 1v1 Meridia's Blessed Armor is often a wasted 5 piece.

It works on more than one target buddy

You're wrong.

Thealteregoroman · December 2017

Ragnarock41 · December 2017

for 1v1 yes it needs a nerf.
for big fights Its fine.

Now If we're gonna take 1v1s into account for balance, mDK and mNb needs massive nerfs.
But that is not how balance works. Yes meridia's is a stupidly designed set that is permabanned from duel tournaments, for a good reason.
In open world tho things change a lot.

redspecter23 · December 2017

If the set can proc every 10 seconds and lasts 5 seconds, what sort of math are you using to figure it has 90% uptime? I'm seeing a maximum of 50% uptime. If you want devs to take you seriously, you have to bring more than just anecdotal evidence and fudgy math to the table.

danno8 · December 2017

OP is wrong.

I tested this set extensively over a year ago with multiple attackers and it only affects one attacker at any given time.

Also, learn2math. 90% uptime is impossible with a 5 second effect on a 10s cooldown, not to mention the 33% chance to proc.

Waffennacht · December 2017

It blows when you're focused on

It's OP in duels

But you know when you put this on in duels... You're being a @#_&

Acrolas · December 2017

What is somebody wearing a tanking complement set in PVP going to do, slowly bite you to death?

I know it's difficult because you can't search for player mechanics on YouTube and then just memorize those mechanics and expect the same winning results every time. But nothing in PVP needs a nerf. People either need to grow thicker skin and realize that they're not going to win every battle, or pick their battles more carefully if they're so concerned about winning.

Ratzkifal · December 2017

Nelson_Rebel wrote: »

[..] Heavy armor and sword and board aren’t the problem in PvP. It’s sets like THIS and ravager and other stupidly broken things that cause pvp issues. [..]

I am wearing Ravager and although it is a very useful and strong set, it hardly overperforms from what I've been seeing. Even when it procs you are not guaranteed to get a kill (and you shouldn't be) nor does the set protect you all that much. It's a good compromise between durability and threat potential, but in no way gamebreaking.

I haven't really noticed Merida's blessed armor before today but it sounds strong when paired with a good damage set. However that 90% just can't be right. with a 5s duration and a 10s cooldown you have an up-time of 50% at max, which is pretty much impossible as you only have a 33% chance to proc on block. On block - so you have to sacrifice damage too (unless you are wearing the harbinger set, which you really shouldn't pair with Meridia's as it's just not enough health to be worth it). Can't really judge from this though, if OP is right about Meridia's current state being too strong or not.

generalmyrick · December 2017

this thread makes me wanna go play with my blessed armor! i got a full set of impen and golded my sword and board in it too! :-) love it!

Runs · December 2017

If I remember right, didn't the application and cooldown of this set bonus get put on the attacker, instead of the player?

So each of the attackers had a chance to proc it and multiple of them could get it applied to them.

SydneyGrey · December 2017

So this is yet another "everything that kills me in PvP has to be nerfed" thread.

*Yawns*

Nelson_Rebel · December 2017

SydneyGrey wrote: »

So this is yet another "everything that kills me in PvP has to be nerfed" thread.

*Yawns*

lmfao ok buddy.

I’m going to wear this set and go duel as many people on the server and upload a video and show you exactly why it’s broken as hell xD lololololol

brandonv516 · December 2017

Maybe it's broken on console but not on PC. These things aren't unheard of...

Nelson_Rebel · December 2017

brandonv516 wrote: »

Maybe it's broken on console but not on PC. These things aren't unheard of...

I can legitimately put this on as a max cp character and not ever die while still killing people just because they cannot hit me. Give me till tomorrow to upload the full video

generalmyrick · December 2017

that was fun! my team dominated chaos ball! pariah goes well with meridia!!! :-)

TequilaFire · December 2017

This set reminds me that I want Blinding Flashes back for my Templar.
It is just not Meridia's it is the combo with a set like Reactive and Argonian potion resource recovery passives on a DK that is wicked.
Also vampire passives, why you see all those pale skin Argonians running around.

Acrolas · December 2017

Nelson_Rebel wrote: »

I’m going to wear this set and go duel as many people on the server and upload a video

You can save your time, as dueling is not the same as either open world or small group PVP and thus the video evidence will not support your argument.

Nelson_Rebel · December 2017

Acrolas wrote: »

Nelson_Rebel wrote: »

I’m going to wear this set and go duel as many people on the server and upload a video

You can save your time, as dueling is not the same as either open world or small group PVP and thus the video evidence will not support your argument.

When I can use one set and kill almost everyone effortlessly something is definitely wrong

Thogard · December 2017

Only works on one player at a time. OP’s saltiness has clouded his objectivity.

That being said, if the set were redesigned that would be for the best. It’s extremely over-performing in limited circumstances.

Nelson_Rebel · December 2017

Thogard wrote: »

Only works on one player at a time. OP’s saltiness has clouded his objectivity.

That being said, if the set were redesigned that would be for the best. It’s extremely over-performing in limited circumstances.

There’s no salt I’m sincerely shocked that this set is performing like this lmfao it’s hilarious and incredibly sad that I can just slap this on and kill effortlessly

generalmyrick · December 2017

I use it and get obliterated! What are you folks on about?

Waffennacht · December 2017

Nelson_Rebel wrote: »

Acrolas wrote: »

Nelson_Rebel wrote: »

I’m going to wear this set and go duel as many people on the server and upload a video

You can save your time, as dueling is not the same as either open world or small group PVP and thus the video evidence will not support your argument.

When I can use one set and kill almost everyone effortlessly something is definitely wrong

I've made builds around this set. It is OP in duels as it makes permablocking insanely easy - thus allowing you to put in damage.

But because it only works on one player at a time, when you face multiple opponents, it no longer allows you to permablock, thus a build built around Meridia becomes compromised. At that point you may as well build a better, standard tanky spec that can perform well 1vX, etc.

Again, you are a #$&- if you use it in duels, and it's really only effective in duels

Slick_007 · December 2017

Nelson_Rebel wrote: »

It’s sets like THIS and ravager and other stupidly broken things that cause pvp issues. So please ZoS do some QA on skill sets that are obviously broken, so you can stop nerfing PvE and PvP players

nope, its people like you that dont understand how gear works, makes false claims about how gear performs and then demands it be nerfed that cause pvp issues. You should take your own advice and do some QA before crying about 'broken' gear that isnt broken.