ZOS, another Heavy Armor passive needs to be fixed/removed!

joaaocaampos

Yes, one more nerf. But it's a small nerf! I'm talking about the first passive, Resolve. There is no need for more Resistance if I am using Heavy Armor! The best thing to do is: do the same thing that was done before (with Wrath and Rapid Mending), but this time involving Constitution and Resolve!

How would it be? Currently we have:

• Resolve (3/3): Increases your Physical Resistance and Spell Resistance for each piece of Heavy Armor equipped.
• Constitution (2/2): Increases Health Recovery per piece of Heavy Armor equipped. Also restores Magicka and Stamina each time you are hit, but only once every X seconds. Amount restored is increased per piece of Heavy Armor equipped.

The result would be this:

• Constitution (3/3): Increases Health Recovery per piece of Heavy Armor equipped.
• Resolve (2/2): Restores Magicka and Stamina each time you are hit, but only once every X seconds. Amount restored is increased per piece of Heavy Armor equipped.

In other words...

• Constitution being the first passive.
• Constitution with 3 ranks and a higher value of Health Recovery: 6% (in maximum rank) per piece of Heavy Armor equipped.
• There would be an obvious tooltip change on the Black Rose Set: "Increases the Magicka and Stamina restoration benefit from the Resolve Passive by 40%..." If there's any other set or effect that influences these two passives, the changes would be necessary.

Rohaus

A tank is a tank. Leave them be.

Morvane

@ZOS, another nerf thread needs to be fixed/removed!

Morbash

Lol, the extra resistances isn't a problem. It's not over-performing.

Wrath was over-performing. Big difference.

With 7/7 heavy armor, resolve grants approximately the same amount of resistance as a defending 2 slot weapon.

Ruckly

You argue for something to be nerfed not because it is OP but because there is no need for it . Why not nerf the grass and the rivers and the sky and the guard that stands at the gate in Wayrest and ambient sound and buff socks and paved roads and tavern jukeboxes and harmonicas and clouds.

Akinos

joaaocaampos wrote: »

Yes, one more nerf. But it's a small nerf! I'm talking about the first passive, Resolve. There is no need for more Resistance if I am using Heavy Armor! The best thing to do is: do the same thing that was done before (with Wrath and Rapid Mending), but this time involving Constitution and Resolve!

How would it be? Currently we have:

• Resolve (3/3): Increases your Physical Resistance and Spell Resistance for each piece of Heavy Armor equipped.
• Constitution (2/2): Increases Health Recovery per piece of Heavy Armor equipped. Also restores Magicka and Stamina each time you are hit, but only once every X seconds. Amount restored is increased per piece of Heavy Armor equipped.

The result would be this:

• Constitution (3/3): Increases Health Recovery per piece of Heavy Armor equipped.
• Resolve (2/2): Restores Magicka and Stamina each time you are hit, but only once every X seconds. Amount restored is increased per piece of Heavy Armor equipped.

In other words...

• Constitution being the first passive.
• Constitution with 3 ranks and a higher value of Health Recovery: 6% (in maximum rank) per piece of Heavy Armor equipped.
• There would be an obvious tooltip change on the Black Rose Set: "Increases the Magicka and Stamina restoration benefit from the Resolve Passive by 40%..." If there's any other set or effect that influences these two passives, the changes would be necessary.

No.

Waffennacht

Akinos wrote: »

joaaocaampos wrote: »

Yes, one more nerf. But it's a small nerf! I'm talking about the first passive, Resolve. There is no need for more Resistance if I am using Heavy Armor! The best thing to do is: do the same thing that was done before (with Wrath and Rapid Mending), but this time involving Constitution and Resolve!

How would it be? Currently we have:

• Resolve (3/3): Increases your Physical Resistance and Spell Resistance for each piece of Heavy Armor equipped.
• Constitution (2/2): Increases Health Recovery per piece of Heavy Armor equipped. Also restores Magicka and Stamina each time you are hit, but only once every X seconds. Amount restored is increased per piece of Heavy Armor equipped.

The result would be this:

• Constitution (3/3): Increases Health Recovery per piece of Heavy Armor equipped.
• Resolve (2/2): Restores Magicka and Stamina each time you are hit, but only once every X seconds. Amount restored is increased per piece of Heavy Armor equipped.

In other words...

• Constitution being the first passive.
• Constitution with 3 ranks and a higher value of Health Recovery: 6% (in maximum rank) per piece of Heavy Armor equipped.
• There would be an obvious tooltip change on the Black Rose Set: "Increases the Magicka and Stamina restoration benefit from the Resolve Passive by 40%..." If there's any other set or effect that influences these two passives, the changes would be necessary.

No.

Woeler

Please stop.

Chrlynsch

Where that lol button at?

Qbiken

How about......

git gut??

Onefrkncrzypope

So removing wrath passive because heavy armor shouldn't do damage. Sure why not balance and things and such, but wanting to nerf heavy armor because it's too tanky when there is already a resistance cap..... What is heavy armor the new DK?

WillhelmBlack

Would you rather duel someone in 5 heavy or 5 light?

SisterGoat

What even is a tank, if not their damage reduction?

akredon_ESO

Oh look someone who has no idea what there talking about. Heavy armor is fine leave it alone

ssewallb14_ESO

Fix/nerf broken/overperforming heavy sets.
Buff medium slightly
Leave heavy alone

TequilaFire

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Would you rather duel someone in 5 heavy or 5 light?

Would depend on who the player is as both are effective in the right hands.

Solariken

Heavy passives are in a really excellent place, no need to change. Instead we should replace that derpy medium armor sneak passive with something universally useful and the armor skill lines will be fine and balanced IMO.

eso_nya

If u dont need it dont put skillpoints in?

itscompton

I can't believe you took the time to write that all up. Did you really think anyone would agree it was a good idea? And can I have some of what you're smoking if you did?

usmcjdking

Heavy is fine.

S&B is not.

Nelson_Rebel

Heavy is so balanced right now it’s insane.


Just stop.

LadyNalcarya

ssewallb14_ESO wrote: »

Fix/nerf broken/overperforming heavy sets.
Buff medium slightly
Leave heavy alone

This.

Draxys

Onefrkncrzypope wrote: »

So removing wrath passive because heavy armor shouldn't do damage. Sure why not balance and things and such, but wanting to nerf heavy armor because it's too tanky when there is already a resistance cap..... What is heavy armor the new DK?

More blocking nerfs inc, which in turn means DK is the still the old/new DK.

Dragon Knights: gettin zosed since 1.6

Dojohoda

Heavy should have the resistance. Please don't change heavy armor.

((((buff medium))))

Gralor

Akinos wrote: »

joaaocaampos wrote: »

Yes, one more nerf. But it's a small nerf! I'm talking about the first passive, Resolve. There is no need for more Resistance if I am using Heavy Armor! The best thing to do is: do the same thing that was done before (with Wrath and Rapid Mending), but this time involving Constitution and Resolve!

How would it be? Currently we have:

• Resolve (3/3): Increases your Physical Resistance and Spell Resistance for each piece of Heavy Armor equipped.
• Constitution (2/2): Increases Health Recovery per piece of Heavy Armor equipped. Also restores Magicka and Stamina each time you are hit, but only once every X seconds. Amount restored is increased per piece of Heavy Armor equipped.

The result would be this:

• Constitution (3/3): Increases Health Recovery per piece of Heavy Armor equipped.
• Resolve (2/2): Restores Magicka and Stamina each time you are hit, but only once every X seconds. Amount restored is increased per piece of Heavy Armor equipped.

In other words...

• Constitution being the first passive.
• Constitution with 3 ranks and a higher value of Health Recovery: 6% (in maximum rank) per piece of Heavy Armor equipped.
• There would be an obvious tooltip change on the Black Rose Set: "Increases the Magicka and Stamina restoration benefit from the Resolve Passive by 40%..." If there's any other set or effect that influences these two passives, the changes would be necessary.

No.

Insandros

Yeah, another of those thread « i can'T overcome this issue, please nerf it » Question OP, when you we're on first grade at school, and you couldn't understand teh basics of 1+1, instead of dealing with it, i presume you wen't crying at the principle to nerf the classes?

Ruckly

The %health recovery for heavy armor is pretty woopty doo. Stamina and magicka recovery are clearly better. Max health is fine since you want a certain health ceiling anyways so you don't get spiked. Medium armor also has weapon damage and reduce dodge cost. I think the idea with medium armor is not to get hit.

As for S&B being OP. It was OP in Skyrim. The strongest Skyrim build was Redguard/Breton/Imperial S&B with 95% mitigation on block? I remember getting tickled by dragon breath on the highest difficulty with zero points in smithing/alchemy/enchanting. When I started the game I was going to build a S&B/bow class but ended up S&B/staff. Now one day the rope-a-dope counter-punch has been discovered and the world is coming to an end.

Integral1900

Heavy armour is just fine, it’s supposed to make you a tough nut to crack

D0PAMINE

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!!!! lol, but yeah HA passives are fine and should be left alone.

Onefrkncrzypope

Draxys wrote: »

Onefrkncrzypope wrote: »

So removing wrath passive because heavy armor shouldn't do damage. Sure why not balance and things and such, but wanting to nerf heavy armor because it's too tanky when there is already a resistance cap..... What is heavy armor the new DK?

More blocking nerfs inc, which in turn means DK is the still the old/new DK.

Dragon Knights: gettin zosed since 1.6

Oh ok good the usual then nerf DKs cause " ". I was afraid I could relax this patch

Goshua

keep trying to make HA unusable, I mean why not, I appreciate every reason not to play these days