Official Discussion Thread for "Crown Store Showcase – December 2017"

Angzt

lordrichter wrote: »

I think it is the latter. They would need to load up all of the old Crown Crate loot into the store and maybe that isn't possible with the way the store is designed.

Honestly, I really doubt that this would cause that much effort!... Dollars to doughnuts, it's purely a greedy marketing decision!...

shadoza

Not spending anymore money on this game until TESO stops asking large guilds what they want and start asking all players what they would like. If you are only caring what they large guilds want, let them pay for it all.

Dont_do_drugs

shadoza wrote: »

Not spending anymore money on this game until TESO stops asking large guilds what they want and start asking all players what they would like. If you are only caring what they large guilds want, let them pay for it all.

wait what? they ask guilds? since when? cant remember.

j3crow

Tyrion87 wrote: »

casparian wrote: »

Tyrion87 wrote: »

You can buy all Storm Atro mounts with gems. They didn't introduce the super-mega-apex or whatever mounts until the Dwarven crates.

So how I should understand this?

Note that Crown Store currently supports the purchase of items with Crown Gems from the Flame Atronach Crown Crate season. Individual Storm Atronach and Wild Hunt items can only be acquired from their respective crates while on sale.

I didn't see that line; my mistake.

@ZOS_GinaBruno can you explain why y'all have changed the older crates to no longer support crown gem purchases? That doesn't exactly seem consumer-friendly.

This predatory system apparently started to rule the crown crates as a whole...

If gem purchases are not possible and it's pure lottery, then I'll pass. I just can't understand why there are so many awesome items that are no longer available, that now in order to get them you can only gamble for them or hope for good rng (crates, mysterious boxes etc.).

I agree completely. Their marketing department is ruining their own brand reputation. I can only speak for myself, but as a middle aged American consumer if you act obviously exploitative in your practices, I will take my business elsewhere. Consumer brand loyalty means something. Just about every vendor in any given sector knows that. When will ZoS actually figure that out?

jaschacasadiob16_ESO

The last months crown stores items have been ridicolous.

Let's try to be a little constructive:

This months items have little to do with the Elder Scrolls. It feels like Santa Claus Holiday Village MMO. I do understand game economy tries to monetize real life holidays. What is Christmas? What has it to do with the Elder Scrolls? This happens for all real life holidays. Can't you really create and promote lore based events which do not need to happen the same day we humans have an holiday?

The masks. I have been waiting for Dibella's for so long. So ugly. Not the mask itself, but the fact that you wear a sack in your head. This happens with all these masks being sold. I do understand that technically this makes it easier, else you should adapt ti to different races, hairstyles and so on. But the way they are is so wrong. Can you imagine wearing Balmora's outfit and ...a sack with a mask on top of it? Guards should arrest you.

Mounts. Well, how many new moutns come out which are just the goold old wolf or senche with a slightly changed texture? 2500 crowns just to have the same 3d model using the same texture with a different color? Come on.

Acrolas

jaschacasadiob16_ESO wrote: »

What is Christmas? What has it to do with the Elder Scrolls?

Christmas as it's celebrated now was a European civic compromise between the monotheistic Church and several polytheistic faiths regarding Winter Solstice celebrations.

Looking at New Life's summary,
"Originally a holiday for a long forgotten god of debauchery, it has become a time of gift giving, parties, and parading."
the old traditions are inspired by Saturnalia, and the ones in ESO are inspired by Yule.

Basically, New Life has more in common with traditional Winter Solstice celebrations than the somewhat historically messy holiday we now celebrate on December 25.

Drakkdjinn

casparian wrote: »

Tyrion87 wrote: »

You can buy all Storm Atro mounts with gems. They didn't introduce the super-mega-apex or whatever mounts until the Dwarven crates.

So how I should understand this?

Note that Crown Store currently supports the purchase of items with Crown Gems from the Flame Atronach Crown Crate season. Individual Storm Atronach and Wild Hunt items can only be acquired from their respective crates while on sale.

I didn't see that line; my mistake.

@ZOS_GinaBruno can you explain why y'all have changed the older crates to no longer support crown gem purchases? That doesn't exactly seem consumer-friendly.

Of course it's not consumer friendly, its lazy game publisher friendly: forces dullards to shell out more $ than they'd be willing to spend on an item individually because ZoS can legally get away with running a Casino by calling it something else to generate revenue instead of, ya know, actually making and maintaining a good game.

Banana

Nope. Maybe next month.

Angzt

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno

Well, thanks for less than nothing ZOS!...

MornaBaine

Took a second look at this today. Still disappointed. I look at the thread where they ask us to tell them what things we want in the crown store. I never see those things actually appear in the crown store even when they are things that already exist in the game and would literally require zero effort to let us have. With the amount of assets in this game they could easily offer 20 new things on the crown store each and every month without breaking a sweat for the next 5 years at least. And people would buy them. Eagerly.

Instead we get garbage. Why?

Oh and let's not forget the price tag on the new house. 14,000 crowns cost $99.99. The furnished version of that house is 16,250 crowns. Well over a hundred bucks for.... a pixel ice cave that is in no way a house and not in any way what anyone has asked for.

It's almost like they are TRYING alienate us.

Elsonso

MornaBaine wrote: »

Took a second look at this today. Still disappointed. I look at the thread where they ask us to tell them what things we want in the crown store. I never see those things actually appear in the crown store even when they are things that already exist in the game and would literally require zero effort to let us have. With the amount of assets in this game they could easily offer 20 new things on the crown store each and every month without breaking a sweat for the next 5 years at least. And people would buy them. Eagerly.

Instead we get garbage. Why?

I can't say why they choose the things that they choose, but as a consumer of the service they are providing, my priorities are the game first, then the Crown Store. I really want them spending less time on the things that are in the suggestion thread and more time adding content, fixing bugs, and making the game better.

Nothing is zero effort. Someone has to pull it all together, which does require effort. Just because we see the asset in the game does not mean it is immediately suitable for use by players. If it is not, someone has to fix it up and get it ready, and that requires more effort.

ZOS has to balance all that, and I want ZOS to balance all of that. Obviously, favoring the game over the Crown Store, but still, balance.

MornaBaine

lordrichter wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

Took a second look at this today. Still disappointed. I look at the thread where they ask us to tell them what things we want in the crown store. I never see those things actually appear in the crown store even when they are things that already exist in the game and would literally require zero effort to let us have. With the amount of assets in this game they could easily offer 20 new things on the crown store each and every month without breaking a sweat for the next 5 years at least. And people would buy them. Eagerly.

Instead we get garbage. Why?

I can't say why they choose the things that they choose, but as a consumer of the service they are providing, my priorities are the game first, then the Crown Store. I really want them spending less time on the things that are in the suggestion thread and more time adding content, fixing bugs, and making the game better.

Nothing is zero effort. Someone has to pull it all together, which does require effort. Just because we see the asset in the game does not mean it is immediately suitable for use by players. If it is not, someone has to fix it up and get it ready, and that requires more effort.

ZOS has to balance all that, and I want ZOS to balance all of that. Obviously, favoring the game over the Crown Store, but still, balance.

Okay, granted, perhaps not "zero effort" requited. But FAR less than creating entirely new assets that no one asked for in the first place. How much time and effort was spent on that new monstrosity of a player "house" I wonder?

heaven13

Abeille wrote: »

Any chance the horse's garland can be removed? Like you can hide the saddlebags and armor other mounts have? It's cute during this time of the year, alright, but the horse itself looks beautiful and I would prefer to be able to have it as a mount all year round without looking like one of those obnoxious neighbors that never take down their festive decorations, you know?

I 100% agree with Abeille. Would love the option to hide the garland/bells because this horse is absolutely beautiful and it'd be a shame for it to really only look appropriate during this specific season.

MornaBaine

heaven13 wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

Any chance the horse's garland can be removed? Like you can hide the saddlebags and armor other mounts have? It's cute during this time of the year, alright, but the horse itself looks beautiful and I would prefer to be able to have it as a mount all year round without looking like one of those obnoxious neighbors that never take down their festive decorations, you know?

I 100% agree with Abeille. Would love the option to hide the garland/bells because this horse is absolutely beautiful and it'd be a shame for it to really only look appropriate during this specific season.

I am just really curious to see if it really is an entirely new horse model and not just a reskin of the current painfully derpy model. If it IS a new model.... I'll sadly be waiting for a reskin that will be more in line with year round use.

Unless the "hide saddlebag" option will ALSO hide the garland. Pretty please ZOS.

Smith4HirePmMe2Order

For Christmass/December all i want is a Crown sale so i can buy my guild the hilariously over priced Mundus stones for the hall....

Cuz lets be real... Their is NO WAY im buying them @ full price.
Zos's crack pipe is running cherry red at the 4k Per price tag as is...

I thought we would get a sale with Thanksgiving/black Friday/cybermonday ( even a 24h sale).. but nope, nadda..

Im losing patience and am about to spend my money on something else... if zos wants $270 from me..
sale soon or RIP my money.

Ied also like to see some of the stuff in my Signature added to the crown store or done to the game, but i doubt it will happen and im losing interest in the game cuz of it..

I dont like to come on the forums and complain with everyone else, but im getting pretty burnt out and salty because of alot of the decisions being made.

Elsonso

Smith4HirePmMe2Order wrote: »

For Christmass/December all i want is a Crown sale

I thought we would get a sale with Thanksgiving/black Friday/cybermonday ( even a 24h sale).. but nope, nadda..

Im losing patience and am about to spend my money on something else...

A lot of people are waiting instead of buying Crowns. The more who wait, the more incentive to have sale to spur the fence sitters into parting with their cash.

Smith4HirePmMe2Order wrote: »

I'd also like to see some of the stuff in my Signature added to the crown store or done to the game, but i doubt it will happen and im losing interest in the game cuz of it..

1. Change the ESO+ Housing item limit from 2x to 3x. (preferably 4x)
2. Add a working Exit wayshrine item for housing.
(Needs to be added as a special achievement item for finding all wayshrines in the game, & should use the same slots & operate like the trophies/vardenfell Scale model)
3. Add a GUILD Banker+Store NPC for housing.
(willing to pay 5k crowns if it does both Or 2.5k crowns each if they split them and have 2 Npcs(1 for each banker/store))
4. Add Writ boards and Writ Drop-off's for housing.
(willing to pay 2.5k crowns for each board+1k crowns per Drop off box=11k total crowns
5. Cut the crown price of Mundus stones IN HALF, and refund the difference in crowns to the few people who have already bought them.
(If Zo$ was my dog, ied roll up a news paper and smack you in the nose repeatedly for this. 4k per stone x13 stones? what were you thinking?!!
6. Add Jewellery Crafting & Upgrading into the game.
7. Change the amount of transmutation gems needed to change a trait from 50 to 10, Increase the drop rates of all Geode sources by 10x.
8. Release more crafting recipes in the game for housing, Dark elf bed of coals, Outdoor and indore fires, Orcish Colunm Brazier, Imperial Forge, Fountains, Statues, Etc Etc.. We know they are already in the game, they were on the original housing PTS then like 60% of the good stuff disappeared.

Just quoted to include your current signature.

Tsizara

Monday, December 4–7: Storm Atronach Crown Crates
Monday, December 11-14: Wild Hunt Crown Crates

The Wild Hunt crates haven't become available (on my account) and the Storm Atronach crates never went away (I can still buy them). I was hoping to get a Wild Hunt crate.