FPS Increase?! Where is it?

wizzard

Before Clockworkcity was released they promised a fps increasement but the whole game covered now with the topic Longloadingscreens... Trials especially on consoles are laggy (PS4 Pro 100Mbts)

Zenimax u promised a fps increasement will it happen on consoles or is it just a promise to gain time to don’t lose players?

LiquidPony

Framerate is a lot better for me on XB1.

In big nasty Trials fights (e.g., Rakkhat, The Serpent), I was running at maybe 2-5 FPS prior to CWC.

Now I'm running at ~15-20 FPS on my XB1S and smooth as butter on my XB1X.

wizzard

Think u play a different game bruh or Xbox performance is too op cuz even pc players get those fps so Idm believing u but it’s not that good on ps4

Skwor

I play 4k at a pretty solid 60 fps. Not seeing any issues with fps

ajm1946

PC NA - pre CWC was nornally running with 95 - 100 fps, and since CWC its still running about this except heavy populated areas where it drops to around 60 fps

LiquidPony

wizzard wrote: »

Think u play a different game bruh or Xbox performance is too op cuz even pc players get those fps so Idm believing u but it’s not that good on ps4

I'm having trouble translating this into English, but, everyone in my Trials guilds has seen better performance in raid since CWC.

wizzard

I m talking about CONSOLE PS4 (pro) FPS PROBLEMS they promised it to get an increase of fps pvp/pve

maboleth

LiquidPony wrote: »

wizzard wrote: »

Think u play a different game bruh or Xbox performance is too op cuz even pc players get those fps so Idm believing u but it’s not that good on ps4

I'm having trouble translating this into English, but, everyone in my Trials guilds has seen better performance in raid since CWC.

Yeah, this is worse than cave painting. At least that was more understandable.

Zagnut123Zagnut123

What ever they did increased mine but I'm pc so I don't matter here

VizigothAlaric

Skwor wrote: »

I play 4k at a pretty solid 60 fps. Not seeing any issues with fps

I love when ppl who have 3k$ worth gaming rig writing these words...

2.4GHz Intel Core i7-4700
16GB DDR3L (2x 8GB, 1,600MHz)
Nvidia GeForce GTX 860

I am end-game player and I have max 15-18 fps in Vmol Hm Rakkhat fight If I don't overclock my cpu.
So please tell me should I spend 2.5-3k$ to able to play 3 years old MMO with 60fps ?

What about they learn which game engine they need to use before creating a game and coding and optimize the game ?

Doctordarkspawn

VizigothAlaric wrote: »

Skwor wrote: »

I play 4k at a pretty solid 60 fps. Not seeing any issues with fps

I love when ppl who have 3k$ worth gaming rig writing these words...

2.4GHz Intel Core i7-4700
16GB DDR3L (2x 8GB, 1,600MHz)
Nvidia GeForce GTX 860

I am end-game player and I have max 15-18 fps in Vmol Hm Rakkhat fight If I don't overclock my cpu.
So please tell me should I spend 2.5-3k$ to able to play 3 years old MMO with 60fps ?

What about they learn which game engine they need to use before creating a game and coding and optimize the game ?

I'd say, save up three hundred bucks, get an xbox, and buy something worth a crap instead of this game.

Though there's no reason that hardware should be having these issues from what I can see.

Rickter

Skwor wrote: »

I play 4k at a pretty solid 60 fps. Not seeing any issues with fps

lol this guy doesnt pvp ^

jrgray93

VizigothAlaric wrote: »

Skwor wrote: »

I play 4k at a pretty solid 60 fps. Not seeing any issues with fps

I love when ppl who have 3k$ worth gaming rig writing these words...

Lol I'm one of those people with a crazy PC and this makes me mad. I see posts about new budget hardware and there is always someone who says "I'll stick with my 1080 Ti" or something along those lines. Like, really?

Also I call BS on a constant 60 FPS unless you never PvP, never do new dungeons, and never stay logged in for more than an hour or two.

This game's FPS tanks over time for whatever reason. It's like a memory leak. PvP and the new dungeons exceed the game's capabilities and FPS is awful in them.

SisterGoat

My FPS goes down to 12 or less in nSO, but at least it isn't freezing up like before.

Defilted

The biggest issue that ESO has it is more dependent on CPU than GPU. This was something they discussed in a few articles.
They talked about moving more of the game to be processed by the GPU as updates come out. This over all should make the game perform better as they do this. Most games are very dependent on the GPU, ESO is different in that respect.


XB1X user here and I can say that the games runs very well. I have run a few trials since CWC and the frames have been good. I hope to see more improvements as time goes on.

Narvuntien

I have a FPS boost in the major cities since the last big update.

I still get the occiational lag and die in PVE and the all the time lag and die in PVP.

HuawaSepp

Defilted wrote: »

The biggest issue that ESO has it is more dependent on CPU than GPU.

Can't confirm this.
Only in loading screens my i5-7600k @4,8 core, @4,5 cache is at max load.
Especially in PVP or Raids both CPU and GPU are at low load when FPS drops to 30.

I think it has more to do with RAM speed and CPU cache speed.

tommalmm

HuawaSepp wrote: »

Defilted wrote: »

The biggest issue that ESO has it is more dependent on CPU than GPU.

Can't confirm this.
Only in loading screens my i5-7600k @4,8 core, @4,5 cache is at max load.
Especially in PVP or Raids both CPU and GPU are at low load when FPS drops to 30.

I think it has more to do with RAM speed and CPU cache speed.

It is. The problem is that it's dependent mostly on single core performance. The highest I've seen was ~15% usage (which is roughly 2 cores at 100% on 8700k with HT). I'm yet to see a part, where my GPU is at 100% or near (usually it's close to 20% on gtx1080ti and to 28-35% per GPU on a 2x gtx970 OC in SLI). So it is CPU bound, but it's better to have fewer, better performing cores rather than a multicore monster, so intel CPUs will perform better in ESO most of the time). The game just can't use all the cores modern CPUs have.

red_emu

It's in the crown store

Izaki

On Xbox One I'm getting some VERY neat FPS in raids. Before CWC to get decent FPS in any raid I had to do the following:
- turn off sound and music
- turn off health numbers and percentages
- turn off buff trackers
- turn off combat text
- use a polymorph (a skeleton, a xivkyn, a baron or a cadavrous assassin)
- restart the game once ported inside an instance (vMA and vDSA included)

We had everyone in our raid group do the above steps and no one was complaining about bad FPS.

After CWC, no one does the above and everyone is getting 25-30 FPS in most raids. I still personally turn off combat text and health % but that's just because I want to keep my screen clear of everything and frankly, most of the time, my game is very smooth.

wizzard

Izaki wrote: »

On Xbox One I'm getting some VERY neat FPS in raids. Before CWC to get decent FPS in any raid I had to do the following:
- turn off sound and music
- turn off health numbers and percentages
- turn off buff trackers
- turn off combat text
- use a polymorph (a skeleton, a xivkyn, a baron or a cadavrous assassin)
- restart the game once ported inside an instance (vMA and vDSA included)

We had everyone in our raid group do the above steps and no one was complaining about bad FPS.

After CWC, no one does the above and everyone is getting 25-30 FPS in most raids. I still personally turn off combat text and health % but that's just because I want to keep my screen clear of everything and frankly, most of the time, my game is very smooth.

Turn off the whole game Yh? Is it not the function to use everything which is possible properly? I want to have a sound when I play

Izaki

wizzard wrote: »

Izaki wrote: »

On Xbox One I'm getting some VERY neat FPS in raids. Before CWC to get decent FPS in any raid I had to do the following:
- turn off sound and music
- turn off health numbers and percentages
- turn off buff trackers
- turn off combat text
- use a polymorph (a skeleton, a xivkyn, a baron or a cadavrous assassin)
- restart the game once ported inside an instance (vMA and vDSA included)

We had everyone in our raid group do the above steps and no one was complaining about bad FPS.

After CWC, no one does the above and everyone is getting 25-30 FPS in most raids. I still personally turn off combat text and health % but that's just because I want to keep my screen clear of everything and frankly, most of the time, my game is very smooth.

Turn off the whole game Yh? Is it not the function to use everything which is possible properly? I want to have a sound when I play

Do you have reading comprehension problems? I said that was LAST PATCH. Do I need to bold that out for you?

In fact, I'll quote it:

Izaki wrote: »

Before CWC to get decent FPS in any raid I had to do the following:
...
After CWC, no one does the above and everyone is getting 25-30 FPS in most raids.

HuawaSepp

tommalmm wrote: »

HuawaSepp wrote: »

Defilted wrote: »

The biggest issue that ESO has it is more dependent on CPU than GPU.

Can't confirm this.
Only in loading screens my i5-7600k @4,8 core, @4,5 cache is at max load.
Especially in PVP or Raids both CPU and GPU are at low load when FPS drops to 30.

I think it has more to do with RAM speed and CPU cache speed.

It is. The problem is that it's dependent mostly on single core performance. The highest I've seen was ~15% usage (which is roughly 2 cores at 100% on 8700k with HT). I'm yet to see a part, where my GPU is at 100% or near (usually it's close to 20% on gtx1080ti and to 28-35% per GPU on a 2x gtx970 OC in SLI). So it is CPU bound, but it's better to have fewer, better performing cores rather than a multicore monster, so intel CPUs will perform better in ESO most of the time). The game just can't use all the cores modern CPUs have.

Hm I can't belief this.
My 4 cores are always equally loaded.
Also a friend tried to OC his i5-4690k to 4,8ghz but only could OC core clock and his system had ddr3 1600 ram (I have ddr4 3000). He got 20 fps less at raid boss fights.
Also how could the xbox one perform so well with only 1,75 (2,3 for X) core clock?

tommalmm

HuawaSepp wrote: »

tommalmm wrote: »

HuawaSepp wrote: »

Defilted wrote: »

The biggest issue that ESO has it is more dependent on CPU than GPU.

Can't confirm this.
Only in loading screens my i5-7600k @4,8 core, @4,5 cache is at max load.
Especially in PVP or Raids both CPU and GPU are at low load when FPS drops to 30.

I think it has more to do with RAM speed and CPU cache speed.

It is. The problem is that it's dependent mostly on single core performance. The highest I've seen was ~15% usage (which is roughly 2 cores at 100% on 8700k with HT). I'm yet to see a part, where my GPU is at 100% or near (usually it's close to 20% on gtx1080ti and to 28-35% per GPU on a 2x gtx970 OC in SLI). So it is CPU bound, but it's better to have fewer, better performing cores rather than a multicore monster, so intel CPUs will perform better in ESO most of the time). The game just can't use all the cores modern CPUs have.

Hm I can't belief this.
My 4 cores are always equally loaded.
Also a friend tried to OC his i5-4690k to 4,8ghz but only could OC core clock and his system had ddr3 1600 ram (I have ddr4 3000). He got 20 fps less at raid boss fights.
Also how could the xbox one perform so well with only 1,75 (2,3 for X) core clock?

I'm just describing my own experience with hardware and ESO, because I've been upgrading pretty much all my setup recently (not for ESO, for other games mostly). Getting a CPU that had better single core performance did much, much more for the game than getting a top notch GPU. But, I already had quite a decent GPU config (in many cases 2x OCed gtx970 was close to gtx1080 performance and ~30% worse than 1080ti, except when you were running out of vram).

If you think about it for a while, you can always get a GPU that is so fast that the CPU will be a bottleneck... And you can get a CPU so fast, that GPU will be bottleneck (or the other way around, you can get a GPU so slow, that it will be a bottleneck).

As for consoles, IDK about Xbox One X, but on everything else it was capped at 30fps. My 6 years old notebook can do 30fps in eso at mixed high and ultra settings. What I talk about is 100fps+, not 30.

Blobsky

I think they meant 'Decrease' and made the mistake of spelling it wrong

Alexandrious

I heard of a guy who OCed his I7 7700k Processor to 5.0 Ghz, and is running a GTX 1080 TI card with 4266MHZ of Ram, and is able to get 60 fps at 4k in trials. But man, taking a core to 5.0 GHZ, gotta have some reliable LC for that.

I will have a build similar to his built around February.

All The Kek

Gracous

wizzard wrote: »

Before Clockworkcity was released they promised a fps increasement but the whole game covered now with the topic Longloadingscreens... Trials especially on consoles are laggy (PS4 Pro 100Mbts)

Zenimax u promised a fps increasement will it happen on consoles or is it just a promise to gain time to don’t lose players?

You have to buy it in the Crown Store!

SirAxen

Rickter wrote: »

Skwor wrote: »

I play 4k at a pretty solid 60 fps. Not seeing any issues with fps

lol this guy doesnt pvp ^

Just because PVP is having issues right now doesn't mean the game itself is. There is more, a LOT more to ESO, than just PVP.

Malic

LOL they arent fixing the lag, frame rates and load screens.

No matter how many times they tell you they will, they wont.

Skwor

I7-6900k OC'd to 4.2 ghtz, 1080 ti OC'd by 20%, 32 gig of 3200 ram running xmp at 3000. Yes I do get 60 fps at 4k. I do though see a fps drop over time usually around 3 hours of gameplay.
I do pvp but not recently, just kind of fell out of pvp and prefer pve for now. Fits my work life balance.

Oh and my rig was a bit more than 3k lol

What is really impressive is I get almost the same performance on No Man's Sky but that game uses every core / thread it can. I am stunned how NMS can ramp up all 8 of my cores and push them to 72C against a 240 push-pull radiator.

Brutusmax1mus

Lol they are reverting the console build that would improve this anyway.