Climbing system for ESO. Possible or impossible?

lelink88

Climbing system is not a stranger function. Many modern game apply that system successfully . I'm not an IT man, but I realize physic engine Havoc has been used inside ESO, I hope that in the future Zos can apply climbing system for thier game. This will help enhance gamer's experience alot . It's my obinion

Elsonso

I can think of a couple of complications.

A lot of the models have "icy tops" so that we cannot stand on them. If we try, we just slide off. Any system that supports climbing would have to fix that. Additionally, there are probably a number of models that have no collision on top, and may not even have a top to them, if we are never to see them from that angle. (This is also a problem with flying)

Climbing would allow players to bypass restrictions placed in the game to prevent objectives from being easily obtained. A lot of quests and dungeons (all types) would have to be reviewed to make sure that they were compatible with climbing. (This is also a problem with flying)

I am under the impression that Havok is not really used as the game is being played. I was under the impression that they used Havok to "pre-calculate" the physics.

Nothing insurmountable, to be sure, but probably costly.

VaranisArano

The climbing system in ESO is similar to the climbing system in other Elder Scrolls games.

"If I can bunny-hop my way over it or my horse can jump up it, I can climb it. Otherwise, I need stairs."

I_killed_Vivec

VaranisArano wrote: »

The climbing system in ESO is similar to the climbing system in other Elder Scrolls games.

"If I can bunny-hop my way over it or my horse can jump up it, I can climb it. Otherwise, I need stairs."

Or a levitation scroll

I'm afraid I take some of the obstructions personally - they were put there just to frustrate me because I'm on the wrong side of the cliff and now I will have to backtrack for miles. I particularly detest the jungle zones for this* because you don't always know you're blocked off because of all the trees... until you reach the cliff and then it is a frustrating ten minutes going back, then even further in the wrong direction until you can find a break and then come all the way back again.

* And for the chirpy, cockney bosmer.

VaranisArano

I_killed_Vivec wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

The climbing system in ESO is similar to the climbing system in other Elder Scrolls games.

"If I can bunny-hop my way over it or my horse can jump up it, I can climb it. Otherwise, I need stairs."

Or a levitation scroll

True! Morrowind was like, "Walk all the way back to Balmora because I walked down the wrong foyada? Screw that! I'm a mage!"

*casts levitation*

"Ah, this is the way to travel. Floating serenely in the air...why don't I do this all the time?"

"Augh! Cliffracers!"

Apherius

I already climb everything. ( you can't get there without climbing , it's an element of decor )

Voxicity

Possible

But unlikely

Maybe in ESO 2

Elsonso

I_killed_Vivec wrote: »

I'm afraid I take some of the obstructions personally - they were put there just to frustrate me because I'm on the wrong side of the cliff and now I will have to backtrack for miles. I particularly detest the jungle zones for this* because you don't always know you're blocked off because of all the trees... until you reach the cliff and then it is a frustrating ten minutes going back, then even further in the wrong direction until you can find a break and then come all the way back again.

To me, what is worse is going to an obvious place that you should be able to get through, or climb up, only to find out that some unnamed developer has placed a transparent wall there, or the model they are using has a collision box that is way too large. Rather than making the terrain look impassible, or better, fixing the world so that there is something there to explore, they drop in a barrier to keep people out.

I actually commended them on Vvardenfell. In too many places, in too many other zones, they have arbitrary walls to prevent access to areas. Except for the mountain, Vvardenfell has tons of climbable areas where they have not plopped transparent boxes to keep you off the furniture.

Apherius wrote: »

I already climb everything.

I have been too busy this fall to fully explore Clockwork City's climbing opportunities. From what I have seen though, a lot of it looks like it is open and they don't have child locks and gates in place.

Jarryzzt

While I do not pretend to know how precisely ESO is coded, implementing any sort of climbing system would mean:

a) Reworking all the maps to introduce "climbable" terrain.

b) Reworking character animations and, if appropriate, controls for such.

c) Adjusting content (quests, whatever) to account for the climbing system. [Can an encounter be bypassed? Can a boss be killed safely from up high? Can monsters climb terrain? Etc.]

I suppose if someone gives Zenimax $100 million in spare cash on the condition they put in a climbing system, they might do it. If I were such an individual, however, I'd keep the $100 million and, if I were really, really interested in climbing within a video game, spend $50 of it on an Assassin's Creed title.

Jade1986

Voxicity wrote: »

Possible

But unlikely

Maybe in ESO 2

Pretty sure if they make another mmo in like 7 years time itll be fallout. xD

dodgehopper_ESO

Swimming system (Underwater) would be nice.

Mettaricana

Jade1986 wrote: »

Voxicity wrote: »

Possible

But unlikely

Maybe in ESO 2

Pretty sure if they make another mmo in like 7 years time itll be fallout. xD

Sadly unless stuff and dev team drastically changes i really dont see an eso 2 maybe fallout if they can pull a defiance mmo style third and fps gameplay with a way to vats without stopping time (figure it would work like an ultimate build up target high accuracy and dmg)

tplink3r1

This is all we need:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyAlrKieqpk

Darkstorne

Launch zones have invisible walls all over the place, back when the game was designed to be Dark of Age Camelot 2. Only after they revealed the game and suddenly realized players wanted to play an Elder Scrolls game did they start designing zones with more freedom in mind, along with a first person view option and being able to travel anywhere at any level.

So if you like climbing things, go to the newer zones. Older ones you'll run into invisible walls constantly. Newer zones are much less restrictive on that front.

ak_pvp

Mettaricana wrote: »

Jade1986 wrote: »

Voxicity wrote: »

Possible

But unlikely

Maybe in ESO 2

Pretty sure if they make another mmo in like 7 years time itll be fallout. xD

Sadly unless stuff and dev team drastically changes i really dont see an eso 2 maybe fallout if they can pull a defiance mmo style third and fps gameplay with a way to vats without stopping time (figure it would work like an ultimate build up target high accuracy and dmg)

Fallout MMO as destiny combat, BDO level sandbox, limited leveling/sets. Instead progress to top maxed out power armour/armour/weapons. No classes. Progression gives active buffs to combat to increase skillcap instead of raw stats. Cosmetics microtransactions only. Would be perf.

nimander99

It would have to be an animation, and emote if you will. Kind of like a mini cut scene. The physics system in the game wont allow for a more parkour feel... Even though I personally think adding a parkour style of play similar to Black Desert would be amazing!

It just wont happen.

Ohtimbar

Anything is possible, but it's extremely unlikely.

Erraln

Climbing is already a feature, try harder.

Consider Sorcery, nature magic, or a dueling buddy with a biiiiig stick.