DLC's are killing this game

MagnusBlackmane

What LAG? This one enjoys steady 70-120 latency outside major cities and the occasional pvp train collision he partakes in... (EU PC).

Cillion3117

DLC's keep the game alive. You're backwards in your logic.

coop500

I never had any lag in PC EU or PC NA and I live in Idaho. I have the occasional 999+ ping spikes but that's rare, if anything the game is running better now than it did before.

Kiralyn2000

Jade1986 wrote: »

Again, QA and bugs are handled by a different department. There is no corrolation.

Well, there can be a slight correlation, in that there is only so much budget that is divided between those departments. More budget for Dept A means less for Dept B.

But that doesn't seem to be the issue here.

DarkAedin

There is some validity to OP.
There have been many bugs in the game that are being band aided every few patches and its degrading the game.
There are some things that need to be reverted and rebuilt (lighting patch among others) instead of band aids on top of band aids.
At this point theres been a repetition of bugs every few dlc (trials/pvp) and a lot of them stem from the same base issue thats being band aided every few patches/dlc.

KingMagaw

Rushed and untested DLC's have ZOS making mmore work for themselves and not addressing issues that have been in the game for a long time.

Bugged skills, Cheating and Exploiting, botting, breaking more abilities every DLC. Players are tired of policing and testing ESO for nothing in return..

Sneaky-Snurr

Dear OP, if you're going to complain about lag, then at least have the decency to address it correctly in the title.
I don't see how DLCs have a direct connection to killing the game off lol.

JohnStorm

After CWC launched my ping went from 70-100 to 200-240 with spikes up to 600-900 in raids/cities. This lasted for 2 weeks straight. After that, my ping went back to normal, but my friend from London got the same issues and still has them.

It is obvious that these problems are the games' fault. I never have ping issues in any other multiplayer game I play, nor does my friend. Oh, and this has also been happening to a lot more people than the 2 of us, and all of them are from different countries.

DieAlteHexe

JohnStorm wrote: »

After CWC launched my ping went from 70-100 to 200-240 with spikes up to 600-900 in raids/cities. This lasted for 2 weeks straight. After that, my ping went back to normal, but my friend from London got the same issues and still has them.

It is obvious that these problems are the games' fault. I never have ping issues in any other multiplayer game I play, nor does my friend. Oh, and this has also been happening to a lot more people than the 2 of us, and all of them are from different countries.

That you don't have issues with other games is meaningless for the most part. The data travels via different routes. The only way to know for sure where problems are occurring and who is to blame is to trace your route from your computer to the game's servers. I have completely different routes and pings between ESO and SWTOR.

Also, there can be temporary issues along the "usual" route that your data takes. For example, the entire month of October, there was one "hop" on my route that was borked; packet loss, timeouts etc. resulting in nasty in-game issues and complete drop-outs. Someone finally fixed it and no problems since.

Do a trace and see how things look along the route your data takes, then you'll know for sure where to lay the blame.

Malmai

Money.

duendology

It's weird.

I am on PC/NA... while residing in Poland.. and I experience lags very rarely..if ever. Can't remember when was the last time I had such

JohnStorm

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

That you don't have issues with other games is meaningless for the most part. The data travels via different routes. The only way to know for sure where problems are occurring and who is to blame is to trace your route from your computer to the game's servers. I have completely different routes and pings between ESO and SWTOR.

Also, there can be temporary issues along the "usual" route that your data takes. For example, the entire month of October, there was one "hop" on my route that was borked; packet loss, timeouts etc. resulting in nasty in-game issues and complete drop-outs. Someone finally fixed it and no problems since.

Do a trace and see how things look along the route your data takes, then you'll know for sure where to lay the blame.

Oh I see, so the "I never had ping issues this bad in ESO before this DLC and neither did 100 other people that I know in the game" is also meaningless?

DieAlteHexe

JohnStorm wrote: »

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

That you don't have issues with other games is meaningless for the most part. The data travels via different routes. The only way to know for sure where problems are occurring and who is to blame is to trace your route from your computer to the game's servers. I have completely different routes and pings between ESO and SWTOR.

Also, there can be temporary issues along the "usual" route that your data takes. For example, the entire month of October, there was one "hop" on my route that was borked; packet loss, timeouts etc. resulting in nasty in-game issues and complete drop-outs. Someone finally fixed it and no problems since.

Do a trace and see how things look along the route your data takes, then you'll know for sure where to lay the blame.

Oh I see, so the "I never had ping issues this bad in ESO before this DLC and neither did 100 other people that I know in the game" is also meaningless?

Look, I'm trying to help you here, so stow the snark, please?

The 'Net is fluid...data travels via numerous routes and those routes sometimes remain constant but often do not. What I tried to offer you was a way for you to find out, for yourself, what was occurring. If you'd rather not and would prefer to snarl at someone whose sole purpose was to see if you could find where the problem is occurring (and it could be the game servers or it could be somewhere along the route), that's on you.

Good luck and go have a Snickers or something.

JohnStorm

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

Look, I'm trying to help you here, so stow the snark, please?

The 'Net is fluid...data travels via numerous routes and those routes sometimes remain constant but often do not. What I tried to offer you was a way for you to find out, for yourself, what was occurring. If you'd rather not and would prefer to snarl at someone whose sole purpose was to see if you could find where the problem is occurring (and it could be the game servers or it could be somewhere along the route), that's on you.

Good luck and go have a Snickers or something.

Look here, if anyone should offer help here, it's ZOS, not you. If you think that my comment was a snarl then good luck in real life. Though, I'm sure ZOS share your opinions and feel the blame is most likely not on them since they haven't commented anything on this subject. Let the players figure it out on their own right?

DieAlteHexe

JohnStorm wrote: »

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

Look, I'm trying to help you here, so stow the snark, please?

The 'Net is fluid...data travels via numerous routes and those routes sometimes remain constant but often do not. What I tried to offer you was a way for you to find out, for yourself, what was occurring. If you'd rather not and would prefer to snarl at someone whose sole purpose was to see if you could find where the problem is occurring (and it could be the game servers or it could be somewhere along the route), that's on you.

Good luck and go have a Snickers or something.

Look here, if anyone should offer help here, it's ZOS, not you. If you think that my comment was a snarl then good luck in real life. Though, I'm sure ZOS share your opinions and feel the blame is most likely not on them since they haven't commented anything on this subject. Let the players figure it out on their own right?

Two Snickers, you grump.

Well, despite the 'tude, I truly hope you can find a resolution but since all you seem to want is a whipping boy, I'll leave you to find someone else and cease trying to help. I mean, gosh, you wouldn't want to find a solution yourself, right?

Yeah, that was snark. I'll go get myself a Snickers. Enjoy your evening.

Zorgon_The_Revenged

Johngo0036 wrote: »

so none of you experience this kind of lag,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyPVLPboVj0

There is nothing wrong with my ping,
It is only in this game that I experience issues and even when the latency ingame is fine there is still laggyness in skills,

PvP was laggy even before DLC's were introduced (worse than now from what I remember), I don't see the connection. Unless it's a content vs fix game issue then see the below comment

DocFrost72 wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

cecibergesnrb18_ESO wrote: »

About what the op said about DLC, yeah I don't see the connection either.

He is insinuating that brcause ZoS spends so much time making DLCS other stuff doesn't get fixed

I don't think the OP understands they have seperate teams for both objectives.

Voxicity

mirta000b16_ESO wrote: »

Voxicity wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Where in the game are people on PC EU getting lag, and where in the real world are they playing from? Is the internet connection wired or wireless? What addons are installed including specifically map and trading related ones?

Cyrodiil
England, east midlands
Wired
None

500+ ping on evenings, 999 on weekend evenings

ZOS PLZ FIX

North England, ping around 70-80 for me. Sometimes there's an odd lagspike, but it never lasts more than 5 minutes and it doesn't happen more than a couple times a day. Did you try to ping their server and see what kind of route it takes?

@mirta000b16_ESO 70-80 ping in cyrodiil at prime time or prime time weekends? CAN I COME LIVE WITH YOU PLEASE?????????????

Voxicity

CyborgPlatypus wrote: »

Voxicity wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Where in the game are people on PC EU getting lag, and where in the real world are they playing from? Is the internet connection wired or wireless? What addons are installed including specifically map and trading related ones?

Cyrodiil
England, east midlands
Wired
None

500+ ping on evenings, 999 on weekend evenings

ZOS PLZ FIX

Zos can't fix that. I live in leeds and never have lag problems. So it's probably your end.

@CyborgPlatypus

In Cyrodiil at prime time / weekends? Can I come live with you please please please please ill pay double rent and play with your cats daily if you have them

Alexandrious

Nope, its definitely the servers and ZoS's neglect. I could get 30-50 ping on FFXIV and its servers are in California. I am in Maryland. ESO's US Megaserver is in Texas right? So why am I getting 80 to 120 ping even with using the Battleping Proxy service? I am using Verizon Fiber Optics as well.

Makes no sense. Will have to see how it looks when I build my new PC that will be outfitted with a 10G Asus Shielded Nic.

All The Kek

CyborgPlatypus

Voxicity wrote: »

CyborgPlatypus wrote: »

Voxicity wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Where in the game are people on PC EU getting lag, and where in the real world are they playing from? Is the internet connection wired or wireless? What addons are installed including specifically map and trading related ones?

Cyrodiil
England, east midlands
Wired
None

500+ ping on evenings, 999 on weekend evenings

ZOS PLZ FIX

Zos can't fix that. I live in leeds and never have lag problems. So it's probably your end.

@CyborgPlatypus

In Cyrodiil at prime time / weekends? Can I come live with you please please please please ill pay double rent and play with your cats daily if you have them

Yes. Unless it's graphical lag I don't have a problem on the EU servers and no you can't.

Goshua

Don't suppose you meant disconnections?..

Rouven

That's the beauty about having hundreds of people working for you. You can put them in teams and then one team can do stuff and thus create work for the other team to create work for the next to fix things for the first team and before you know it you have to hire more people!

Here is my proposal: Fix the lag, fix any issue anyone has, make more DLC's, make more everything and put everything on sale to make more money to make more things!


For giggles in case someone doesn't know it yet:

This is a story about four people named Everybody, Somebody,
Anybody, and Nobody. There was an important job to be done and
Everybody was asked to do it. Everybody was sure Somebody would
do it. Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it. Somebody
got angry about that, because it was Everybody's job. Everybody
thought Anybody could do it but Nobody realized that Everybody
wouldn't do it. It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when
Nobody did what Anybody could have done.

Rickter

Omg thank you @Cloudless !!!

Cloudless wrote: »

Johngo0036 wrote: »

FIX THE LAG PLS........

Are we talking true LAG? Or PING? Or FRAMERATES? Server performance? Client performance? These are ALL very different things.

Madshady

I have all the DLC for Elder Scrolls Online and own Morrowind chapter as well. While playing ESO my ping rate hangs around 90-110 while playing. Since there is people currently playing ESO with all the DLC & Morrowind without issue.

Let's me believe it's not the game/server it self causing the person's issue. If it was the game/server you would think many more people would be having the problem. There could be other reasons behind the person's ping problem.

Just one reason could be the path your ESO data is taking over the internet. One of the hops along the way could be currently congested or having issues.

Rickter

Give priority server connection to eso plus members. Get rid of crown crates. Eso wins.

madeeh91rwb17_ESO

OP is not right about DLCs being the problem. Obviously.
But something has really happened to ZOS's EU PC servers.
They are certainly not what they used to be like.

For those outside of Europe the PvP has become unplayable

See: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/382119/did-zoss-eu-isp-change-its-connection-causing-the-ping-problems#latest

SydneyGrey

I have no lag at all when I'm doing PvE, and only sometimes when I PvP. How much lag you get depends on a lot of things, including where you live.

SirAxen

SydneyGrey wrote: »

I have no lag at all when I'm doing PvE, and only sometimes when I PvP. How much lag you get depends on a lot of things, including where you live.

Pretty much the same. It's unfortunate that people do, but I haven't had issues like some of these people do...well, -ever-. It obviously isn't a widespread issue or else everyone would be constantly crashing and d/cing. The only time I've ever had 'lag' issues around the time Thieves Guild came out. I had a week where the game didn't run well for me, but it eventually smoothed out. Other than that week time period, I've had no issues with ESO since April 2014.

Gargath

For me, living in eastern new eu country, the lag isn't a problem even on 12Mbit cable stable connection. I'm probably about 1k kilometers away from German megaserver. But I don't play pvp exactly due to lag and those animation cancelling exploits which lets the people with less lag taking advantage over the likes of me. PVE though is not a problem at all. After Master Merchant is loaded the game works just fine.

WaltherCarraway

DLC->lag?

I don’t see correlation here...