[PC][NA] Heavy Attack sometimes doesn't work

SecretAtoz

I don't have a problem light weaving on my magicka dps, but heavy attacking on my stamina dps is so buggy as hell.

When I heavy attack, occasionally my character just stands there doing nothing. I am losing dps scores because of this....

I have an option to just play my magicka characters instead but I don't want to ditch my main because of this

xSkullfox

Like: hold button-> it fires the heavy attack, still holding, nothing happens then ?

SecretAtoz

xSkullfox wrote: »

Like: hold button-> it fires the heavy attack, still holding, nothing happens then ?

Yes.

Hold button > HA > Skill > Still holding button > HA stops working resulting my character not doing anything.

SirAndy

Happens on both Stamina and Magicka characters for me. Somehow the game seems to forget that the key is still down.

Unfortunately, this is nothing new.
I told ZOS all the way back during beta that they should switch to using GetAsyncKeyState() to avoid just such problems.

SirAndy

SirAndy wrote: »

I told ZOS all the way back during beta that they should switch to using GetAsyncKeyState() to avoid just such problems.

To quote myself from March 2014:

SirAndy wrote: »

I suggested to ZOS several months back to use GetAsyncKeyState() to query the state of keys pressed (both keyboard and mouse) instead of using the windows message loop.

GetAsyncKeyState() talks directly to the underlying hardware bypassing the windows message loop altogether!

That would solve at least two problems:

- The most important one being false key and mouse button pressed events that are injected by a 3rd party application. It will be *much* harder for any automation tool to inject false data on the keyboard or mouse controller level.

- The second problem this would solve is the one of allowing users to use certain keys to alter a key state. For example, to allow for the use of ALT or SHIFT as key modifiers. With the use of GetAsyncKeyState(), any key can become a 'modifier' and implementing the logic is easy to do.


I actually wrote a C++ wrapper class for this function a while back that was used in a game engine. It works really well yet surprisingly, not a lot of developers know about it.
;-)

Flameheart

xSkullfox wrote: »

Like: hold button-> it fires the heavy attack, still holding, nothing happens then ?

This happens very often for me, doesn't matter if stamina or magicka and if fire or lightning staff. Some people told me that it might be just an animation issue, the attack fires off in spite of (gets calculated) and the magicka/stamina gain will be added nevertheless. Not sure though..

SecretAtoz

My mistake. You guys are right. Magicka is also heavily effected by this bug too. For some reason I started to experience this bug a lot recently than before. Before, I rarely encounter this, is it because I got better at my rotation that I started to experience this bug?

LiquidPony

Can confirm.

There actually appear to be a couple of issues with heavy attacks.

Sometimes, even on a tab-targeted enemy (or target skeleton), my heavy attacks just won't execute if I'm holding down the trigger. My normal stam DPS rotation might be: hold RT, hit X, hit Y, hit A, swap (holding heavy attack the entire time should heavy attack weave). Sometimes, that just doesn't work. The attack doesn't execute. If I re-press the trigger, the attack executes. Then maybe the next pass through my DW bar, heavy attacks will work as expected. And then maybe then next pass, they won't. Really frustrating.

The other (that I've experienced more often on my stamDK) is that the heavy attack animation happens but it does not connect with the target. As in, I'll be standing well within HA range of an enemy (or target skeleton), and even if it's tab-targeted, the heavy attack animation will play but it does not hit.

Horowonnoe

I have this happen to me as well.
So annoying. Barswap seems to fix it, but it ruins the rotation.

xRIVALENx

This will also happen if you use a potion during the heavy attack animation. It has been reported but nothing resulted from said report.

*EDIT*

To elaborate, it was reported back in September via in game bug report and ticket.

Shadowshire

SecretAtoz wrote: »

I don't have a problem light weaving on my magicka dps, but heavy attacking on my stamina dps is so buggy as hell. ....

Please read and do as advised: Guidelines For Bug Report Forum -- unless you want ZOS to ignore your message. In your OP, always disclose the platform and the megaserver on which you are playing the game.

Krayzie

Try procing assassins will with this game breaking bug

ChiknAriseMcFro

Worth the necro. I posted as this has returned with Summerset. At least on Xbox NA.

Amdar_Godkiller

ChiknAriseMcFro wrote: »

Worth the necro. I posted as this has returned with Summerset. At least on Xbox NA.

It's been a continuous issue for Werewolf heavy attacks for some time now. Hopefully it can be fixed finally before the WW DLC drops...

Excaltic

I can confirm this bug on Xbox One, so it's a systemwide coding bug, not just PC only!!!

Mystrius_Archaion

More info in this post and the post linked to from it on the PTS boards so may want to continue discussion here:
Heavy Attacks with Restoration and Lightning Staves Still Have Issues Firing

That pretty much applies to any heavy attacks from any weapon but most severely affects those staves because they work differently.

Shadowshire

SirAndy wrote: »

Happens on both Stamina and Magicka characters for me. Somehow the game seems to forget that the key is still down.

Unfortunately, this is nothing new.
I told ZOS all the way back during beta that they should switch to using GetAsyncKeyState() to avoid just such problems.

Yes, and it often happens while my character is Sprinting, too. If he sprints into some marshy terrain, where Sprint is apparently either slowed or not allowed, then exits into normal terrain, I must release the <Shift> keybind and hold it down again to resume Sprint. That has been the case since I don't know when.

However, recent failures of the game software to acknowledge that I have pressed the Left Mouse Button, regardless of whether I am holding it down, are becoming more common. Since it occurs most often while the Latency is shown in red digits, that seems to be the cause of the problem. Nonetheless, currently I am considering whether to obtain another mouse to test whether the one that I'm using is wearing out.

SosRuvaak

still happening... i cant heavy attack on my argonian nightblade. its odd, ive always had the most miserable bugs on that toon, and its making it soo much harder on my carpal tunnel to dps trying to weave in heavy basic attacks that wont repeat when the button is held down..