[Video] Magicka Nightblade 1vX PvP gameplay and build (clockwork city DLC ) / EU Vivec

Subversus

Derra wrote: »

Fel wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Fel is salt incarnate. The type of player that ganks you of a horse and complains when you use restoult to counter it - ofc from the cushioncomfort of offline mode.

now i wish i recorded that fight just to proof my Point
first of all i doubt that just attacking someone on a horse is the Kind of gank you are suggesting it was. you took a small amount of dmg from my first attack and did not even get knocked of your horse and instantly started fighting back.
you used the resto ult about 10seconds into the fight and it had nothing to do with countering a gank.

for about 1 year after they implemented that resto ult, basicly NOBODY was ever using it...and suddenly after i come back from a break basicly every single noob pug in the game was using this ability all of a sudden. thats why i dont like it when ppl are using it, esp. in a 1v1 fight, thats why i instantly walked away from the figh

First: I used resto ult from the day it went live in homestead 10 months ago it´s my permanent backbar ulti. It is and was the best defensive ultimate in the game when not using sword and board.

Second: I dropped to ~60% hp before i started fighting back bc i was chatting while on horseback. Since i do not stack 3 shields on a sorc it´s rather hard to recover from that initial hp dmg against a nb that puts out even moderate amount of pressure - as healingward will get eaten by dmg and not heal. Then i got skoria + will to the face and lost some additional hp.

Third: I had soulassault as an offensive ultimate slotted. I think we both agree that there is absolutely no point in using soulassault against a magica NB with shields and cloak slotted.
I had enough ultimate and an indadequate offensive ultimate to fight you - is your suggestion that i do not use any ultimate at all? I could have ran away in that case. Not using any ultimate in a fight is pointless - and i´m sure running away would also have resulted in a whisper.
I don´t really see the options i had that wouldn´t have resulted in a whisper

Fel wrote: »

from your Point of view it might be a self fullfilling prophecy, but it can better be explained as a discussion of what was first.....chicken or egg...

ppl have to realize that all i do is calling ppl out for what they do. if you actually read all the /w i sent to ppl you will see that i only react to the Actions of these Players and that i am not a Person who jsut randomy starts to trigger ppl out of nowhere, like you suggest. and most ppl i know think just the same way about most of These Players, they just dont tell it to their face for some reason.

I remember a sorc called fel. He used to bug our 4 person group in 1.5 and 1.6 from maxrange while we were engaged fighting other players. If we made the reasonable decision after beating the other players to go after the sorc and sometimes killed him - most of the times not - he would send hatewhispers about tryhard zerglings.
The question was - did that player expect us to not try to retaliate?
There is no question about hen and egg here. Can only speak from personal experience ofc.

The dude is just unwilling to understand that he's wrong. I'm still baffled by people defending him in this thread after he made a fool out of himself repeatedly in here.

What does he expect? He goes into unwinnable fights against players that he couldn't even beat 1v1 let alone Xv1 then *** when he's killed and we're the salty ones?

Some people just don't grow, mentally, past 10 years old.

Derra

Subversus wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Fel wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Fel is salt incarnate. The type of player that ganks you of a horse and complains when you use restoult to counter it - ofc from the cushioncomfort of offline mode.

now i wish i recorded that fight just to proof my Point
first of all i doubt that just attacking someone on a horse is the Kind of gank you are suggesting it was. you took a small amount of dmg from my first attack and did not even get knocked of your horse and instantly started fighting back.
you used the resto ult about 10seconds into the fight and it had nothing to do with countering a gank.

for about 1 year after they implemented that resto ult, basicly NOBODY was ever using it...and suddenly after i come back from a break basicly every single noob pug in the game was using this ability all of a sudden. thats why i dont like it when ppl are using it, esp. in a 1v1 fight, thats why i instantly walked away from the figh

First: I used resto ult from the day it went live in homestead 10 months ago it´s my permanent backbar ulti. It is and was the best defensive ultimate in the game when not using sword and board.

Second: I dropped to ~60% hp before i started fighting back bc i was chatting while on horseback. Since i do not stack 3 shields on a sorc it´s rather hard to recover from that initial hp dmg against a nb that puts out even moderate amount of pressure - as healingward will get eaten by dmg and not heal. Then i got skoria + will to the face and lost some additional hp.

Third: I had soulassault as an offensive ultimate slotted. I think we both agree that there is absolutely no point in using soulassault against a magica NB with shields and cloak slotted.
I had enough ultimate and an indadequate offensive ultimate to fight you - is your suggestion that i do not use any ultimate at all? I could have ran away in that case. Not using any ultimate in a fight is pointless - and i´m sure running away would also have resulted in a whisper.
I don´t really see the options i had that wouldn´t have resulted in a whisper

Fel wrote: »

from your Point of view it might be a self fullfilling prophecy, but it can better be explained as a discussion of what was first.....chicken or egg...

ppl have to realize that all i do is calling ppl out for what they do. if you actually read all the /w i sent to ppl you will see that i only react to the Actions of these Players and that i am not a Person who jsut randomy starts to trigger ppl out of nowhere, like you suggest. and most ppl i know think just the same way about most of These Players, they just dont tell it to their face for some reason.

I remember a sorc called fel. He used to bug our 4 person group in 1.5 and 1.6 from maxrange while we were engaged fighting other players. If we made the reasonable decision after beating the other players to go after the sorc and sometimes killed him - most of the times not - he would send hatewhispers about tryhard zerglings.
The question was - did that player expect us to not try to retaliate?
There is no question about hen and egg here. Can only speak from personal experience ofc.

The dude is just unwilling to understand that he's wrong. I'm still baffled by people defending him in this thread after he made a fool out of himself repeatedly in here.

What does he expect? He goes into unwinnable fights against players that he couldn't even beat 1v1 let alone Xv1 then *** when he's killed and we're the salty ones?

Some people just don't grow, mentally, past 10 years old.

I think right and wrong are a matter of personal perception most of the times so making an absolute judgement is near impossible for parties involved in any incident.

Ragnaroek93

Stratforge wrote: »

As an Xbox NA player who doesn't know any of you, I'm the only one qualified to weigh in on PC EU drama so get ready, here's the verdict: OP is good. Mad nerds are mad.

Oh ***, we are doomed now. Gonna uninstall the game in shame now

BohnT

I'd be a rich man if i could sell a new cryptocurrency named saltereum, just fight Fel once and you could mine enough units to live in peace

Fel

Subversus wrote: »

I was in Discord with Jeff. We were taking the resource, having fun. Came and attacked us, we killed you.

I started tbagging you for the salt. No hard feelings were meant. You did however start to spam me hate whispers (???) while I was laughing my ass off (I have the shadowplay recording, we were reading your messages loud to 5 other people and we were all SCREAMING).

ofc you were in discord with Jeff, that explains why you came to help him and why you insantly started tbagging me after killing me with 3 ppl.
i killed Jeff a couple of times and made fun of him for being a tryhard....minutes later you come to help him with some other pugs taking the ressource

sorry mate, but saying something like "i started tbagging you for the salt" clearly Shows that you are exactly the Kind of mad kid in this game i am talking about all the time

but hey, good for you guys if you guys can manage to kill 1 guy with a bunch of Players and spend 10minutes to tbag him and brag about that behaviour to your friends
it would be unfair if i was the only one who had so much fun :P

Subversus wrote: »

So answer this: who is the salty one? The 2 guys having a giggle pressing the crouch key in a video game or the one that spends 2 hours sending hate whispers from offline mode?

well, i would say the guy who gets killed 1v1 over and over, calls his friend in discord to help him and instanly starts tbagging for about 10minutes after they managed to kill someone 3v1 ....

and then desperatly tries to argue that killing someone 3v1 and tbaggin him for 10minutes was supposed to trigger someone ^^
and....obviously seems to wonder that ppl /w you and make fun of that behaviour

you can argue as much as you want about doing all that to "trigger" someone...but it doesnt really get any more salty then you guys showed with your behaviour :P

like i said so many times already....as soon as ppl like you realize that all you do with such behaviour is showing how insanly mad and trigegred you guys are, you will understand why i have so much fun with it

Subversus wrote: »

You're making a fool out of yourself, you're obviously not very intelligent.

the irony that someone who tries to claim that a 3v1 towerfight was actually a 2v1(with 8!!!!! guards) and that whispering someone for 10minutes for how mad he looks while he spamms tbag on my corpse until i auto-respawn was actually 2hrs of whispering, says that someone else is making a fool out of himself.....its so hilarious

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Derra wrote: »

First: I used resto ult from the day it went live in homestead 10 months ago it´s my permanent backbar ulti. It is and was the best defensive ultimate in the game when not using sword and board.

Second: I dropped to ~60% hp before i started fighting back bc i was chatting while on horseback. Since i do not stack 3 shields on a sorc it´s rather hard to recover from that initial hp dmg against a nb that puts out even moderate amount of pressure - as healingward will get eaten by dmg and not heal. Then i got skoria + will to the face and lost some additional hp.

Third: I had soulassault as an offensive ultimate slotted. I think we both agree that there is absolutely no point in using soulassault against a magica NB with shields and cloak slotted.
I had enough ultimate and an indadequate offensive ultimate to fight you - is your suggestion that i do not use any ultimate at all? I could have ran away in that case. Not using any ultimate in a fight is pointless - and i´m sure running away would also have resulted in a whisper.
I don´t really see the options i had that wouldn´t have resulted in a whisper

i was also using the resto ult since day one and i alawys said in TS, that this is the most overpowered and most underrated ultimate in the game. for months you could Play pvp and barely face even 1 guy per week who was using that ultimate.

the Thing that annoys me so much is jsut how insanly fast Things spread in this and how ppl copy just everything. like i said...i came back from a break and suddenly even the biggest noob pug was using that ultimate as soon as you attacked These Players.

dont get me wrong, i am not that stupid to blame someone just for using an ability in this game. the consequece for me is just that i insantly walk away from a fight if someone is using that ultimate in 1v1, because that is something i really cant stand at all, and i let ppl know that.

i could have understand the Argument that you used that ult to Counter the gank if you were about to die after i started attacking and you would have used it instantly after i attacked... but after using it about 10-15 seconds into the fight, i dont really but that argument

Derra wrote: »

and i´m sure running away would also have resulted in a whisper.
I don´t really see the options i had that wouldn´t have resulted in a whisper

like i said....usually i only respond to the Actions of Players towards me.
you could have just killed me 1v1, not like you dont know how to Play sorc and doing enough damage to kill someone even without an ultimate
... i dont think i would have had any Argument for that result

Derra wrote: »

I remember a sorc called fel. He used to bug our 4 person group in 1.5 and 1.6 from maxrange while we were engaged fighting other players. If we made the reasonable decision after beating the other players to go after the sorc and sometimes killed him - most of the times not - he would send hatewhispers about tryhard zerglings.
The question was - did that player expect us to not try to retaliate?
There is no question about hen and egg here. Can only speak from personal experience ofc.

hard to tell if i dont really know the exact Content of the whisper anymore. but again, is it really a hatewhisper if you get chased, and as you say sometimes get away, or is it just making fun of getting tryharded.

again, from your perspective it might not be, but that implies that this incident, which i really doubt....and yet again we have to talk about hen and egg again

WillhelmBlack

Subversus wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Fel wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Fel is salt incarnate. The type of player that ganks you of a horse and complains when you use restoult to counter it - ofc from the cushioncomfort of offline mode.

now i wish i recorded that fight just to proof my Point
first of all i doubt that just attacking someone on a horse is the Kind of gank you are suggesting it was. you took a small amount of dmg from my first attack and did not even get knocked of your horse and instantly started fighting back.
you used the resto ult about 10seconds into the fight and it had nothing to do with countering a gank.

for about 1 year after they implemented that resto ult, basicly NOBODY was ever using it...and suddenly after i come back from a break basicly every single noob pug in the game was using this ability all of a sudden. thats why i dont like it when ppl are using it, esp. in a 1v1 fight, thats why i instantly walked away from the figh

First: I used resto ult from the day it went live in homestead 10 months ago it´s my permanent backbar ulti. It is and was the best defensive ultimate in the game when not using sword and board.

Second: I dropped to ~60% hp before i started fighting back bc i was chatting while on horseback. Since i do not stack 3 shields on a sorc it´s rather hard to recover from that initial hp dmg against a nb that puts out even moderate amount of pressure - as healingward will get eaten by dmg and not heal. Then i got skoria + will to the face and lost some additional hp.

Third: I had soulassault as an offensive ultimate slotted. I think we both agree that there is absolutely no point in using soulassault against a magica NB with shields and cloak slotted.
I had enough ultimate and an indadequate offensive ultimate to fight you - is your suggestion that i do not use any ultimate at all? I could have ran away in that case. Not using any ultimate in a fight is pointless - and i´m sure running away would also have resulted in a whisper.
I don´t really see the options i had that wouldn´t have resulted in a whisper

Fel wrote: »

from your Point of view it might be a self fullfilling prophecy, but it can better be explained as a discussion of what was first.....chicken or egg...

ppl have to realize that all i do is calling ppl out for what they do. if you actually read all the /w i sent to ppl you will see that i only react to the Actions of these Players and that i am not a Person who jsut randomy starts to trigger ppl out of nowhere, like you suggest. and most ppl i know think just the same way about most of These Players, they just dont tell it to their face for some reason.

I remember a sorc called fel. He used to bug our 4 person group in 1.5 and 1.6 from maxrange while we were engaged fighting other players. If we made the reasonable decision after beating the other players to go after the sorc and sometimes killed him - most of the times not - he would send hatewhispers about tryhard zerglings.
The question was - did that player expect us to not try to retaliate?
There is no question about hen and egg here. Can only speak from personal experience ofc.

The dude is just unwilling to understand that he's wrong. I'm still baffled by people defending him in this thread after he made a fool out of himself repeatedly in here.

What does he expect? He goes into unwinnable fights against players that he couldn't even beat 1v1 let alone Xv1 then *** when he's killed and we're the salty ones?

Some people just don't grow, mentally, past 10 years old.

I'm not defending him, I don't even know who he is. I liked his video and many of us thank him for sharing. Unfortunately by tagging me and 2 attempts of an insult, you just put yourself into the same category of player as Fel. Who I am now aware of after reading all the posts. Still doesn't make it OK to hijack any PvP video thread, especially when they are kind enough to share their build. Save the hate for in game.

Roaldy

You's are all on EU so can we all just agree you's are all bad?

Fel

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Still doesn't make it OK to hijack any PvP video thread, especially when they are kind enough to share their build. Save the hate for in game.

well, if you red the thread you should have realized by now that saving the hate for ingame is exactly what they do....

i mean it doesnt really get anymore hateful than what happens if all These guys who complain here see me in game ^^
and then they cry if someone makes fun of how they Show their hate and try to argue that the guy who makes fun of them is the salty one and not those ppl who basicly do nothing else than showing their hate in game by how they tryhard^^

anyway, i dont mind if they all come here to Show me how far their hate for me goes. i am not playing the game atm and this here is almost more fun than actually playing the game

WillhelmBlack

Fel wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Still doesn't make it OK to hijack any PvP video thread, especially when they are kind enough to share their build. Save the hate for in game.

well, if you red the thread you should have realized by now that saving the hate for ingame is exactly what they do....

i mean it doesnt really get anymore hateful than what happens if all These guys who complain here see me in game ^^
and then they cry if someone makes fun of how they Show their hate and try to argue that the guy who makes fun of them is the salty one and not those ppl who basicly do nothing else than showing their hate in game by how they tryhard^^

anyway, i dont mind if they all come here to Show me how far their hate for me goes. i am not playing the game atm and this here is almost more fun than actually playing the game

Well it sounds like you're having fun. It's your thread so if you don't mind feeding the trolls, carry on.

Subversus

Fel my dude, you really need to expand your vocabulary. Tryhard mad kid gets old when you use it every other sentence.

Also, Jeff doesn't lose 1v1s over and over again. He rarely even loses 1v1s. Why do you think people buy his build for 300k+? You're free to hit him up in game @bambok13 and ask him for a good beating (sorry meant 1v1).

This dude is amazing hahaha.

Valencer

TL;DR: Fel writing essays about how everyone else is clearly mad and a tryhard.

Some people never change

Biro123

Why didn't I see this thread earlier?

Thanks for the entertainment guys !

Fel

Subversus wrote: »

Fel my dude, you really need to expand your vocabulary. Tryhard mad kid gets old when you use it every other sentence.

Also, Jeff doesn't lose 1v1s over and over again. He rarely even loses 1v1s. Why do you think people buy his build for 300k+? You're free to hit him up in game @bambok13 and ask him for a good beating (sorry meant 1v1).

This dude is amazing hahaha.

well, tell my a more efficient way to discribe mad tryhard Kids other than using "mad tryhard Kids"

i dont care if other ppl cant kill your friend Jeff guy, all i know is that he lost to me 1v1 a couple of times before he called for help ^^ be honest to yourself and ask why your friend asked you in discord for help :P

and sorry mate, if someone is so bad at this game that he has to buy a standard metablade build for money in this game just says everything about that Person, Looks like These guys dont even know about the Internet where you can get builds for free :DDDDDDDDDDDDD

try harder next time seems like you jsut as tryhard in Forums as you are in game^^

Valencer wrote: »

TL;DR: Fel writing essays about how everyone else is clearly mad and a tryhard.

Some people never change

thx mate for just proving my Point again like i said, nothing more fun than all These triggered Kids trying so hard to argue that they are not as mad and angry as they act like^^

Biro123 wrote: »

Why didn't I see this thread earlier?

Thanks for the entertainment guys !

you are welcome but i am going to leave for some nice Christmas days now, but i will be back next year for some more fun

happy Holidays for everyone and i hope we can continue this next year^^

Derra

Fel wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

and i´m sure running away would also have resulted in a whisper.
I don´t really see the options i had that wouldn´t have resulted in a whisper

like i said....usually i only respond to the Actions of Players towards me.
you could have just killed me 1v1, not like you dont know how to Play sorc and doing enough damage to kill someone even without an ultimate
... i dont think i would have had any Argument for that result

I´m playing NB a bit myself and i personally don´t think a sorc can kill a NB without the use of an ultimate - atleast if there is not a significant disparity in skill.
Since i have no idea how good you are on your nb as i´ve maybe fought you 2 or 3 times total i really didn´t feel to test my limits after beginning the fight from a disadvantaged position - so i chose resto to reset it.

My personal setup suffers vs nb as i chose bol over streak and run without harness magica. I feel relatively confident i would kill my sorc with my NB - if i were able to fight myself.

I personally don´t really consider restoult that broken anymore in 1v1 encounters unless it´s combined with any form of additional ultimate generation. It´s also relatively easy to tell if someone wants to force a draw with resto or if the intended use is to create additional offensive time/pressure.

incite

Most solo players and small scalers I know leave other solo players and small scalers alone, it's like a silent gentleman agreement and most players I know hold to this. (call it oldskool)

But indeed sometimes I come across some players who actually trigger small scalers and then accuse you from 'tryharding' or 'zerging'.

5 year olds have a similar thinking patron, "I get to attack you all i want, but if you attack back, im gonna rage and tell mom"

Derra

incite wrote: »

Most solo players and small scalers I know leave other solo players and small scalers alone, it's like a silent gentleman agreement and most players I know hold to this. (call it oldskool)

But indeed sometimes I come across some players who actually trigger small scalers and then accuse you from 'tryharding' or 'zerging'.

5 year olds have a similar thinking patron, "I get to attack you all i want, but if you attack back, im gonna rage and tell mom"

I don´t think it has much to do with a gentleman agreement - unless it´s ofc adding already fighting players that would be outnumbered in the process.

The sad reality is that even semi capable players simply can´t kill each other 3 out of 4 times when one starts to play fully defensive. The result is that ppl don´t bother wasting resources and time.

Fel

Derra wrote: »

I´m playing NB a bit myself and i personally don´t think a sorc can kill a NB without the use of an ultimate - atleast if there is not a significant disparity in skill.
Since i have no idea how good you are on your nb as i´ve maybe fought you 2 or 3 times total i really didn´t feel to test my limits after beginning the fight from a disadvantaged position - so i chose resto to reset it.

well, the last time i played my sorc was probably 2 years ago, but it seems to me that sorcs still do a lot of dmg with their combos, and the sorc ultimates are still kinda limited in solo fights. i am not using harness either and therefor a bit more squishy

in the end it would probably be all about who gets a good combo of first and kills the other one... but who wants to fight that Long

..and getting into a discussion about fighting without ultimate is pointless anyway

Derra wrote: »

I personally don´t really consider restoult that broken anymore in 1v1 encounters unless it´s combined with any form of additional ultimate generation. It´s also relatively easy to tell if someone wants to force a draw with resto or if the intended use is to create additional offensive time/pressure.

well it certainly was in the beginning with 100cost and even +30% crit Bonus. the nerf was needed but increasing the cost hurts soloplayers more than other Players
it still saves my ass about every 5minutes when i am fighting solo. ist jsut such a Frustration when ppl use it in 1v1 or you attack a pug and he instantly uses it, esp. since the Point where suddenly EVERY single guy started using it

incite wrote: »

Most solo players and small scalers I know leave other solo players and small scalers alone, it's like a silent gentleman agreement and most players I know hold to this. (call it oldskool)

But indeed sometimes I come across some players who actually trigger small scalers and then accuse you from 'tryharding' or 'zerging'.

5 year olds have a similar thinking patron, "I get to attack you all i want, but if you attack back, im gonna rage and tell mom"

jeah, so oldschool when 50% of the pvp Population are not even fighting eachother anymore

it has nothing to do with a Gentleman Agreement, its more like every palyer knows the other Players and most of the grp consists of meta tank/heal builds anyway and a fight would probably last 10mins

just came back for an hour of gameplay today and the first Thing i saw was a 10min 2v2 inside a Tower an non of the 4 metatank stambuilds died

as i said....i rather have every single guy in this game tryharding me and giving me a Quality pvp time, than not even attacking every second guy i see and complaining how boring the game is

Subversus

Guys stop tryharding him you mad tryhard kids, whenever you see coctailtomate open world just sit there and do nothing cause if you shoot back you're mad tryhard kids you tryhards.

Aelakhaii_De_Mythos

The difference in "skill" between the most elite players and the the very good players is like 5% in effectivity...
So maybe people should stop acting like their value as a human being depends on their pvp skills... Maybe try to develop some decency instead! (i'm not faultless either... some people know that.

Anyways, NL got alot OG players that deserve respect for their behaviour.

Fel

Subversus wrote: »

Guys stop tryharding him you mad tryhard kids, whenever you see coctailtomate open world just sit there and do nothing cause if you shoot back you're mad tryhard kids you tryhards.

there is a difference between jsut fighting back and ppl like you, who get so insanly *** triggered that you zerg someone down and just spend 10min tbagging somone until he auto-respawns, jsut to Show how angry you are

so cute how you still dont understand that what you do is just the Definition of being a mad tryhard kid and then you cry that you get called the same^^

Aelakhaii_De_Mythos wrote: »

The difference in "skill" between the most elite players and the the very good players is like 5% in effectivity...
So maybe people should stop acting like their value as a human being depends on their pvp skills... Maybe try to develop some decency instead! (i'm not faultless either... some people know that.

Anyways, NL got alot OG players that deserve respect for their behaviour.

just with the difference that 5% effectivity cant really do anything against a 50% differnence depending on what metabuild or class you Play in this game :DDDDDD

was someone ever talking about the value of a human being?

im sure that some Nl Players might be nice guys, but i stictly distinguish between in game and rl, and personally i dont see anything in respectul in their behaviour, such as zerging for years, tryharding ppl, running away from every equal fight, zerging down ppl 24v1 and tbagging them, and the list goes on and on^^

but if you have other experience with These palyers, i do respect that ofc

BohnT

Fel wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

Guys stop tryharding him you mad tryhard kids, whenever you see coctailtomate open world just sit there and do nothing cause if you shoot back you're mad tryhard kids you tryhards.

there is a difference between jsut fighting back and ppl like you, who get so insanly *** triggered that you zerg someone down and just spend 10min tbagging somone until he auto-respawns, jsut to Show how angry you are

so cute how you still dont understand that what you do is just the Definition of being a mad tryhard kid and then you cry that you get called the same^^

Aelakhaii_De_Mythos wrote: »

The difference in "skill" between the most elite players and the the very good players is like 5% in effectivity...
So maybe people should stop acting like their value as a human being depends on their pvp skills... Maybe try to develop some decency instead! (i'm not faultless either... some people know that.

Anyways, NL got alot OG players that deserve respect for their behaviour.

just with the difference that 5% effectivity cant really do anything against a 50% differnence depending on what metabuild or class you Play in this game :DDDDDD

was someone ever talking about the value of a human being?

im sure that some Nl Players might be nice guys, but i stictly distinguish between in game and rl, and personally i dont see anything in respectul in their behaviour, such as zerging for years, tryharding ppl, running away from every equal fight, zerging down ppl 24v1 and tbagging them, and the list goes on and on^^

but if you have other experience with These palyers, i do respect that ofc

Fel i know everyone who kills you is a zergling but 2 ppl don't make a zerg. How did they even kill you you are the magnb

Lexxypwns

I’m still confused why people thing Xv1’ing a solo player is something to brag about

Fel

BohnT wrote: »

Fel i know everyone who kills you is a zergling but 2 ppl don't make a zerg. How did they even kill you you are the magnb

i never said 2 ppl are a zerg.... pls inform yourself if you want to participate in this conversation

its just not very productive if ppl just start making up Things here

Lexxypwns wrote: »

I’m still confused why people thing Xv1’ing a solo player is something to brag about

i guess the word "Kids" is a very simple and effective way to discirbe such behaviour^^
but the funny Thing is that These ppl get even more triggered than they already are if you are calling them what they are

Aelakhaii_De_Mythos

Fel wrote: »

Aelakhaii_De_Mythos wrote: »

The difference in "skill" between the most elite players and the the very good players is like 5% in effectivity...
So maybe people should stop acting like their value as a human being depends on their pvp skills... Maybe try to develop some decency instead! (i'm not faultless either... some people know that.

Anyways, NL got alot OG players that deserve respect for their behaviour.

just with the difference that 5% effectivity cant really do anything against a 50% differnence depending on what metabuild or class you Play in this game :DDDDDD

was someone ever talking about the value of a human being?

im sure that some Nl Players might be nice guys, but i stictly distinguish between in game and rl, and personally i dont see anything in respectul in their behaviour, such as zerging for years, tryharding ppl, running away from every equal fight, zerging down ppl 24v1 and tbagging them, and the list goes on and on^^

but if you have other experience with These palyers, i do respect that ofc

One's behaviour on the internet and irl goes hand in hand. This is no secret.

For example: if one is a respectless person and bull irl, then one is probably the on the net. Difference between irl and net behaviour is that one would eventually be respectless towards someone who one should show respect...

All this drama between people, especially in the pvp community is just bs... I'm not talking about you in person but in general.

And those who say things like NL zergling etc etc, i can ramble up like 10 NL players who would show theyre the highest tier duelers (when they actually cared about dueling). Lets be honest, the bashing of NL was just competetive talk between few players and then everyone else who dont even know any of the players joined the bashing...

Fel

Aelakhaii_De_Mythos wrote: »

One's behaviour on the internet and irl goes hand in hand. This is no secret.

might be true in some cases. but it is ignorant in my opinion to gernalize it
and as i said, personally i distinguish between those 2

as soon as anyone tries to go on a personal Level on me, i jsut know instantly that this guy is very limited in his mind

Aelakhaii_De_Mythos wrote: »

And those who say things like NL zergling etc etc, i can ramble up like 10 NL players who would show theyre the highest tier duelers (when they actually cared about dueling). Lets be honest, the bashing of NL was just competetive talk between few players and then everyone else who dont even know any of the players joined the bashing...

as i said...i can only speak from my perspective

the hate from Nl towards me started in the first months of this game where we frequently wiped their 24+train with the 8 man grp that i was leading and karisha in particular started to hate me. already back then i had Little respect for big zergballs and i did not shy away to tell karisha and other NL ppl what i think about them

and after that it took not very Long for These Nl players to tryhard the *** out of me every time they saw me. i can only imagine how crazy karisha must have gone in TS as soon as someone spotted me. but depending on how hard they tried and how they zerg down 1 guy with 24 Players and tbagg him....it must have been quite insane.

and it did not have to be their entire raid...even if a small grp of them saw me they would go through so much, just to chase me over the whole map

then some of their ppl started doing smallscale and pretended that the zerging time never happened and they are some skilled smallscalers in this game. just with the difference that they were not very successful as smallscalers either

not to mention how easy it was to kill most NL Players as soon as you caught them 1v1

but dont get me wrong...i dont doubt that some of These Players manged to learn to Play their class in These 3 years and are quite good by now. (but i also made the experience that some ppl only got much better in this game as soon as they discovered meta builds in the game. this crescent guy Comes to my mind as an example....he was such a free kill until he started playing meta builds which helped him to survive and start getting some kills)

i dont understand your last sentence about NL bashing and competetive talk. neither do i consider calling out ppl for what they are or how they Play as bashing, nor do i care at all what other ppl did to them or think about them

Master_Kas

Fel wrote: »

Aelakhaii_De_Mythos wrote: »

One's behaviour on the internet and irl goes hand in hand. This is no secret.

might be true in some cases. but it is ignorant in my opinion to gernalize it
and as i said, personally i distinguish between those 2

as soon as anyone tries to go on a personal Level on me, i jsut know instantly that this guy is very limited in his mind

Aelakhaii_De_Mythos wrote: »

And those who say things like NL zergling etc etc, i can ramble up like 10 NL players who would show theyre the highest tier duelers (when they actually cared about dueling). Lets be honest, the bashing of NL was just competetive talk between few players and then everyone else who dont even know any of the players joined the bashing...

as i said...i can only speak from my perspective

the hate from Nl towards me started in the first months of this game where we frequently wiped their 24+train with the 8 man grp that i was leading and karisha in particular started to hate me. already back then i had Little respect for big zergballs and i did not shy away to tell karisha and other NL ppl what i think about them

and after that it took not very Long for These Nl players to tryhard the *** out of me every time they saw me. i can only imagine how crazy karisha must have gone in TS as soon as someone spotted me. but depending on how hard they tried and how they zerg down 1 guy with 24 Players and tbagg him....it must have been quite insane.

and it did not have to be their entire raid...even if a small grp of them saw me they would go through so much, just to chase me over the whole map

then some of their ppl started doing smallscale and pretended that the zerging time never happened and they are some skilled smallscalers in this game. just with the difference that they were not very successful as smallscalers either

not to mention how easy it was to kill most NL Players as soon as you caught them 1v1

but dont get me wrong...i dont doubt that some of These Players manged to learn to Play their class in These 3 years and are quite good by now. (but i also made the experience that some ppl only got much better in this game as soon as they discovered meta builds in the game. this crescent guy Comes to my mind as an example....he was such a free kill until he started playing meta builds which helped him to survive and start getting some kills)

i dont understand your last sentence about NL bashing and competetive talk. neither do i consider calling out ppl for what they are or how they Play as bashing, nor do i care at all what other ppl did to them or think about them

A successful smallscaler = kills groups of unexperienced or not very good players? Which I bet most people can do if they dedicate. Think all of the people here writing to you are capable of doing that.

Except me ofc, I need the german morningcappers holding my hand

Fel

Master_Kas wrote: »

A successful smallscaler = kills groups of unexperienced or not very good players? Which I bet most people can do if they dedicate. Think all of the people here writing to you are capable of doing that.

that Definition might be acceptable if you remove the word successful.

are they really capable of doing that? might be true according to your Definition, but as i said...you missused the word successful there

FakeZavos

Really? Fel is still going tryhard on this forum post?

I dont know how he cant understand when we are tbagging him we dont do it because "we" are triggered. Its simply to trigger "him". Because who doesnt love a good portion of Fel's hatewispers. I might get him off ignore. My "Fels Hatewisper" collection needs some refilling. Maybe I even unban him from my teamspeak since if I ignore him ingame he will come to discord to start spam hatewispers there. But guys, "he" is not triggered, "we" are.

Really Fel, you're a decent magnb (in the sense of you know how to run away without killing anything), but your actions here on the forums show you that you arent the most intelligent person. But who am I to judge right?

Fel

FakeZavos wrote: »

Really?

ohh so cute, you came back to try it again zavos?

this thread just turned into pure joy for me how ppl who are so insanly mad at me try to argue so hard that they are not the once who are triggered
i mean you are basicly the pefekt example... got killed, your gf aswell, she got so mad and tryhardy and forced you to tryhard me aswell.... zerging me down and tbagging , then i start making fun of you in TS of how triggered you both are, you bann me because you got even more angry that i make fun of you....your friends unbann me because they think you are triggered, callign me a zergling, claiming that i would never have a Chance killing you or your Gf 1v1 etc....
but jeah....you jsut did all of that to make me "triggered" i heared that argumation a lot my friend^^
cmon mate....you cant really be that ignorant to see how hate-filled all your Actions were and how triggered you got^^

jeah "running away and not killing anything" says the guy who tried to fight me once and got rekt within 10seconds, aswell as his girlfriend who tried to fight 1v1 without any help and got rekt even faster ^^
the hate and madness i got from your GF after that and finally from you, because she forced you to, was just pure joy not much more satisfying than some trigegred Kids who got rekt and become the biggest tryhards after that to Show how angry they are. i guess there is a reason why ppl refered to you as the new tryahrd couple instead of mage+syndrell even the ppl youa re playing with were making fun of that some of them also think that you are not a very good Player

you were a nice guy in TS, but ingame you became just the Definition of a kid who got killed and became super tryhard and mad, jsut like most other ppl here^^

BUT WHO AM I TO JUGDE RIGHT?

Lieblingsjunge

And here all I wanted to do was to watch a video.