What actually are the rewards for leaderboard places in vet trials?

Stinkyremy

Google can't help me with the answer.

The reason I want to know is that I was recently invited to a guild and the guildies are on some mission to get on the leaderboard, only molag bal knows why.
Apparently because I am not wearing gear that youtube stars tell them to wear I am not being reinvited to do trials with them and being treated like a leper.
Not that I did anything wrong, Off tank in AA, didn't die, didn't taunt the main tanks targets, already know mechanics ect, there was one wipe on the wispmother boss and then some guy left for some reason.
I'm assuming that I am the finger to point at.
I just didn't do exactly what they wanted me to do, use skills they wanted me to use and wear gear they wanted me to wear.

So what is the benefit of actually getting on the leaderboards anyway?
What is the point?

I can't only imagine there is finite gold jewellery that we get from each trial and after getting all the jewellery, even 1 for each of your 11 alts, the point of grinding for the gear has gone.

Asardes

When a trial is weekly and you beat it on veteran with a good score on Monday you will receive a mail with a weapon and piece of armor or jewel or from that trial in gold quality. You can see which one is that week by opening the leaderboards tab, seems to be random, without a particular pattern. For example vAS has been weekly for the last 2 weeks. All 12 man trials and vDSA can be weekly; Maelstrom is separate.

Asardes

And vAA only needs off-tank if you do the HM - main tank takes the axes, off-tank stacks the storm atronachs on the Mage so the melee DDs can kill them. It's pretty hard. The HM does give a better score though from what I've seen but you can still get on the leaderboard without it if you did a fast clean run.

code65536

Aside from the weekly (vAA is the weekly on NA/PC, and you need a pretty good score this week in order to be in the top 100 when the weekly closes), the main point of the leaderboard is... well, being on the leaderboard. It's about prestige. It's about competition. "Play how you want" is fine for casual play, but when people are trying to compete, then they absolutely have every right to require that people do things in a certain way.

Asardes

Since trials are a 12 man effort there are more than 100 spots like Maelstrom. I've never seen them past 5-600 or so and I'm not sure what's the actual limit. But if the weekly is AA, HRC or SO it's pretty easy to score enough. Fewer players can beat MoL and fewer still HoF or AS.

kyle.wilson

I ran vAA twice the other night with a respected EP PVP guild on PC/NA.
We never wiped and still couldn't place on the leaderboard.

I was in an end game, pve guild until my 6 month hiatus from the game. In that guild we regularly placed in the top 100.

Stinkyremy

code65536 wrote: »

Aside from the weekly (vAA is the weekly on NA/PC, and you need a pretty good score this week in order to be in the top 100 when the weekly closes), the main point of the leaderboard is... well, being on the leaderboard. It's about prestige. It's about competition. "Play how you want" is fine for casual play, but when people are trying to compete, then they absolutely have every right to require that people do things in a certain way.

" It's about prestige"
Well here is the damn irony, the main tank was cp 454, i'm cp 630.

Epeen is for teenager damn it, yeah I can understand wanting to get on the leadeboard for the golden weapons/items as that can be up to 120k gold worth of improvement mats.

code65536

Stinkyremy wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

Aside from the weekly (vAA is the weekly on NA/PC, and you need a pretty good score this week in order to be in the top 100 when the weekly closes), the main point of the leaderboard is... well, being on the leaderboard. It's about prestige. It's about competition. "Play how you want" is fine for casual play, but when people are trying to compete, then they absolutely have every right to require that people do things in a certain way.

" It's about prestige"
Well here is the damn irony, the main tank was cp 454, i'm cp 630.

Epeen is for teenager damn it, yeah I can understand wanting to get on the leadeboard for the golden weapons/items as that can be up to 120k gold worth of improvement mats.

Some people run marathons for fun. Some people run it just to say that they can complete a marathon. And some people run it to compete.

It's no different from the sports world. You can play a sport for fun. You can play a game for fun. Or you can play a sport for competition, just as you can play a game for competition. You might not give a damn about competition, and that's fine. But there are people who like to play a game competitively. Instead of complaining on the forums that you found people who play the game differently than you do, maybe you should instead find people who play the game in the way you do?

(Also, what does CP have to do with anything? Particularly for support roles like tanks and healers, CP doesn't really matter much. It gives you slightly better stats, which mean diddly squat when what matters is the player's skill.)

Stinkyremy

code65536 wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

Aside from the weekly (vAA is the weekly on NA/PC, and you need a pretty good score this week in order to be in the top 100 when the weekly closes), the main point of the leaderboard is... well, being on the leaderboard. It's about prestige. It's about competition. "Play how you want" is fine for casual play, but when people are trying to compete, then they absolutely have every right to require that people do things in a certain way.

" It's about prestige"
Well here is the damn irony, the main tank was cp 454, i'm cp 630.

Epeen is for teenager damn it, yeah I can understand wanting to get on the leadeboard for the golden weapons/items as that can be up to 120k gold worth of improvement mats.

Some people run marathons for fun. Some people run it just to say that they can complete a marathon. And some people run it to compete.

It's no different from the sports world. You can play a sport for fun. You can play a game for fun. Or you can play a sport for competition, just as you can play a game for competition. You might not give a damn about competition, and that's fine. But there are people who like to play a game competitively. Instead of complaining on the forums that you found people who play the game differently than you do, maybe you should instead find people who play the game in the way you do?

(Also, what does CP have to do with anything? Particularly for support roles like tanks and healers, CP doesn't really matter much. It gives you slightly better stats, which mean diddly squat when what matters is the player's skill.)

"Also, what does CP have to do with anything?" well the same could be said about gear then!
soneone with 200 less cp that me arent gonna be able to block, take or give as much damage as me, even if they have the gear that these people believe you NEED to be able to do the dungeon.

tbh I think it is the case of these people watching other people playing video games and trying to emulate them rather than playing them themselves and figuring them out.
The gear sets I use, suit my play style, I have done a lot of trial and error, i have figured every dungeon and trial mechanic myself, (with advice from players in the group of course) without having to go to an external source, out of game, to learn.
that is the whole idea of playing this type of content.

It's a shame now that in most cases a lot of the dungeons and even trail mechanics are completely overlooked and manipulated rather than doing the mechanics "properly"
I remember pug grouping first month of release and figuring all the mech in classic dungeons as we played. Same goes for gear setups.

code65536

Stinkyremy wrote: »

"Also, what does CP have to do with anything?" well the same could be said about gear then!
soneone with 200 less cp that me arent gonna be able to block, take or give as much damage as me, even if they have the gear that these people believe you NEED to be able to do the dungeon.

Stop being obtuse. Of course someone with 0 CP is going to be severely disadvantaged. But we aren't talking about 0 CP, are we? You specifically brought up someone with 450 CP, in the role of a tank. At that point, for a tank, CP had basically stopped mattering.

Stinkyremy wrote: »

tbh I think it is the case of these people watching other people playing video games and trying to emulate them rather than playing them themselves and figuring them out.
The gear sets I use, suit my play style, I have done a lot of trial and error, i have figured every dungeon and trial mechanic myself, (with advice from players in the group of course) without having to go to an external source, out of game, to learn.
that is the whole idea of playing this type of content.

In the case of vAA, the only think that is threatening to the tank are the axes. Everything else will barely scratch a tank. So in vAA, unless you are specifically talking about the axes, nobody gives a damn about what "suits your play style" because your job is defined by what the group needs, not what you need (because the tank needs nothing). The tank exists as a buff *** to provide the buffs and debuffs that are mathematically proven to increase DPS the most. Don't want to run stuff like that and want to run some selfish set designed to help your own survival or sustain? Well, too bad. Trials are a team sport, you have a very specific role to fill, and if you aren't filling that role, then you aren't doing your job.

But hey, if you want to play the way you want, you can. Just don't go expecting everyone else to cater to you when they're interested in a competitive team sport. You can do whatever you want in a pickup game of basketball. But don't expect people to give you that kind of latitude if you join a team that's actually competing to win in a league or something.

NyassaV

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