ESO one of the more "modest" titles in the genre?

ArchMikem

Anyone else noticed that ESO is basically one of the only MMORPGs that ISN'T blatantly sexualized? Take the title image of Naryu and the Warden. Not a single shred of bikini armor in sight. Honestly thinking about it, im impressed a little. ZOS doesnt stoop to showing big busty Templars on their ads to gain new players.

Lyserus

true

and I am suprosed there is no spear weapon, we can't even "polish spears"

Bbsample197

well its one of the western mmorpgs, majority of mmorgs are from asia and we all know how sexualise the characters there, especially a game that comes from korea

ThePrinceOfBargains

I hate overly sexualized characters too, but they were being ridiculous. If I recall correctly, some of their female light/medium armors originally showed a little skin and they covered those areas up for no good reason. What’s silly is that they kept the nonsensical boob indentations on all of the heavy armors.

wenchmore420b14_ESO

Lol... Read this and my mind suddenly flashed to The Elder Scrolls: Arena Cover...
Bit of trivia, the same picture from Arena can be seen on the wall outside the arena in Oblivion..

Banana

Hopefully there will be a mod to fix that one day

doslekis

You obviously haven't read The Lusty Argonian Maid...

Scene III, Continued –

Lifts-Her-Tail: Certainly not, kind sir! I am here but to clean your chambers.

Crantius Colto: Is that all you have come here for, little one? My chambers?

Lifts-Her-Tail: I have no idea what it is you imply, master. I am but a poor Argonian maid.

Crantius Colto: So you are, my dumpling. And a good one at that. Such strong legs and shapely tail.

Lifts-Her-Tail: You embarrass me, sir!

Crantius Colto: Fear not. You are safe here with me.

Lifts-Her-Tail: I must finish my cleaning, sir. The mistress will have my head if I do not!

Crantius Colto: Cleaning, eh? I have something for you. Here, polish my spear.

Lifts-Her-Tail: But it is huge! It could take me all night!

Crantius Colto: Plenty of time, my sweet. Plenty of time.

– End of Act IV, Scene III –

Stovahkiin

True, although they certainly have been implementing more and more "boob windows" in the crown store outfits from what I've seen.

idk

Bbsample197 wrote: »

well its one of the western mmorpgs, majority of mmorgs are from asia and we all know how sexualise the characters there, especially a game that comes from korea

Even major western MMORPGs put out sexier armor skins. Take SWTOR, from day one had a dancer and slave outfit that was essentially a bikini. When they started their cash shop they had some good armor styles of all sorts, but also skimpier skins as well. Have no idea about WoW since I did not play it long, just could not get into it.

But yes, pleased Zos has not gone that way as the OP stated.

IronCrystal

ArchMikem wrote: »

Anyone else noticed that ESO is basically one of the only MMORPGs that ISN'T blatantly sexualized? Take the title image of Naryu and the Warden. Not a single shred of bikini armor in sight. Honestly thinking about it, im impressed a little. ZOS doesnt stoop to showing big busty Templars on their ads to gain new players.

This game has ads? Haven't seen one in ages.

Banana

Shadzilla wrote: »

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How come only the blokes have ***

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FloppyTouch

<.< I like sexy characters in revealing “gear”

Minyassa

I would have thought so, but after building up a sizeable collection of costumes on a stable of all male characters and finally creating one female, I had a bad series of "where the hell is the rest of my shirt" moments trying costumes on her. Kind of annoying in some cases, like the Golden Saint costume is completely ruined by nonsensical gaps that don't even add any kind of fashion appeal, they are JUST there to show off skin. So...meh.

LOTRO is a truly modest MMO as far as that goes. Full coverage armor for both sexes, all the time.

OutLaw_Nynx

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Best post tbh

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victoriana-blue

There's a difference between "modest" and "not sexy."

TES has been moving away from cheesecake, for which I'm grateful. But ESO specifically has been sliding toward more ~sexy~ costumes over the last half year and it's irritating me. Compare Naryu's old Morag Tong armor with the new, skin-hugging waist-accentuating costume, I'll wait. Or compare the amount of cleavage on display in the Morrowind female costumes to the non-beefcake male ones. Plus the datamined Nocturnal.. thing.

The game has always had a slant toward carrot/power fantasy men vs hourglass/sexy women, it's built into the character creation options and the female Baywatch-style run animation. (I've never met a woman whose hips make exaggerated figure eights while she's running, what even is that.) But it's been less in your face than a lot of other fantasy games, for sure.

(To be clear, I'm happy the skin-tastic MMOs exist for the people who want to play them! But I don't want ESO to be pulled further in that direction.)

Digielf

Skyrim literally has sex mods and there are entire videos and mini movies in xx sites made from them, also WoW is a western mmo as well yet draenei females and blood elf females are pure sex symbols

ArchMikem

victoriana-blue wrote: »

There's a difference between "modest" and "not sexy."

Plus the datamined Nocturnal.. thing.

The Nocturnal costume though is keeping to canon at least. Its exactly how it was in TES:V. It may be real showy, but that particularly is just how Female preferred Princes look. (Or, were chosen to look)

Also not sure whats wrong with Naryu's unique outfit, its full covering even and looks a lot nicer than default Dunmer.

TheShadowScout

I am a bit of two minds about this matter...

...for one, I really, really dislike senseless naughtyness some games use just to draw leering male customers...
...but...
...for another I also really DO like immersion that does not stop when things get into naughty territory...

Thus, I really dislike some other games with "bikini armor" - if its supposed to protect, it should look tha part, since form follows function.
And I really would love if ESO took that into accout in the matter of costumes:
- either split the costumes into "combat costumes" and "civilian costumes" and then have all civilian costumes unequip automatically when taking damage, just like disguises...
- or assign a "armor limit" to costumes, say, these dunmer robes only allow armor value up to "light" and will reduce heavier armor to that damage resistance valie when worn, while that bosmer leather almost-bikini will allow no armor whatsoever and reduce your stats to zero while active, yet that nord hero costume allows the full value of your armor to be in effect...

That being said, I wish ESO would dare a bit more where applicable! Much like games of thrones, where it makes sense for the story, I would want them to take a step or two further. Bare breasts on females. Underwear bulges on males. Perhaps even dangly bits on naked nords and such. Naughty themes that are not just implied between the lines. Stuff like that...

Oh, well.

stevepdodson_ESO888

Lyserus wrote: »

true

and I am suprosed there is no spear weapon, we can't even "polish spears"

i can't believe no-one else had a chuckle at this

red_emu

TheShadowScout wrote: »

I am a bit of two minds about this matter...
- or assign a "armor limit" to costumes, say, these dunmer robes only allow armor value up to "light" and will reduce heavier armor to that damage resistance valie when worn, while that bosmer leather almost-bikini will allow no armor whatsoever and reduce your stats to zero while active, yet that nord hero costume allows the full value of your armor to be in effect...

Possibly the worst idea ever? I mean, costumes are cosmetic only. Assigning armor changing values to them would be p2l.

Besides, there is so many ugly armors in the game, costumes are my only way to feel immersed (especially the armor costumes like Elven Hero or Warden costume).

Last thing I want is for my High Elf to run about in an ugly, low-res Argonian armor or any robe for that matter since robes in this game are stiff and look horrid.

On the matter of things being less sexy in this game than others? Well that is just the art direction of the Elder Scrolls. If you were a lady warrior, you would want your legs protected from sword slashes even with a bit of leather.

As for costumes that do show a lot. Why not? Wood elf mini skirt is pretty much lore - friendly. It is humid and warm in Valenwood. Dunmer dress with a big boob window in the middle? Why not, it's an ornately decorated dress and is meant to be worn to a party or to show off.

Just because some players decide to dress their fat, male orc in a wedding dress and run around Cyrodiil with a S&B, doesn't mean they should not be able to. After all. Each to their own. Some prefer immersion, and some are just clowns that think the same joke has never been told before.

ArchMikem

"Fat Male Orc in a Wedding dress" HAS to be a legit meme by now.

Rouven

The only thing that "bothers" me about that is that ESO does so well in offering tattoos and other skins ... which are hard to see because you hardly show any skin.

Other than that it's refreshing.

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Stania

The only complaint I have on this issue, is about the differences in skimpyness on several male and female costumes, and how the more revealing stuff is catering towards female characters (the only exception being the first-mate's pirate outfit as far I can remember).

I like the Balmora outfit because it looks pretty nice on male characters with athletic body types, however, I wish I don't have to cross-dress my vampire with a evidently "feminine" outfit in order to have him wear something "sexy" or tighter.

If ZoS could break its recent "no skimpy" initiative and make it convincing (I guess) for females, they can do it with males aswell. Come on, not all the playerbase consist of hetero guys or sexeh-is-women-empowerment gals.

Nestor

How much skin showing is too much is in the eye of the beholder. There are only two or three costumes in this game that show a lot of skin and those are quite tame as compared to other games I have seen ads for or have played.

In my opinion, those games that resort to showing lots of skin are generally not good games to play. The sex appeal is clearly added to generate interest where the gameplay does not.

TheShadowScout

red_emu wrote: »

TheShadowScout wrote: »

I am a bit of two minds about this matter...
- or assign a "armor limit" to costumes, say, these dunmer robes only allow armor value up to "light" and will reduce heavier armor to that damage resistance valie when worn, while that bosmer leather almost-bikini will allow no armor whatsoever and reduce your stats to zero while active, yet that nord hero costume allows the full value of your armor to be in effect...

Possibly the worst idea ever? I mean, costumes are cosmetic only. Assigning armor changing values to them would be p2l.

Besides, there is so many ugly armors in the game, costumes are my only way to feel immersed (especially the armor costumes like Elven Hero or Warden costume).

...you may notice those would have useable armor limits within the scope of my idea...
Or using the other idea, those would be "combat costumes" which would be quite possibly to wear into battle!

But you see, the thing that -does- vex me is when people can run around in bathers towels, wedding dresses or dancers silks, yet still enjoy the full protection of their heavy plate mail.
Yes, it may be a bit of an immersion thing...
But I really would enjoy some functionality that makes people choose - either "civilian" costume for the looks, or combat power for the effectiveness.
That way the costume would be for roleplaying in cities (which is generally how I use them), and the armor for the thick of the battlefield...

red_emu wrote: »

On the matter of things being less sexy in this game than others? Well that is just the art direction of the Elder Scrolls. If you were a lady warrior, you would want your legs protected from sword slashes even with a bit of leather.

Oh, definitely. Not to mention the other bits... after all, you don't want to end up like this...

red_emu wrote: »

As for costumes that do show a lot. Why not? Wood elf mini skirt is pretty much lore - friendly. It is humid and warm in Valenwood. Dunmer dress with a big boob window in the middle? Why not, it's an ornately decorated dress and is meant to be worn to a party or to show off.

No argument there.
I love such costumes!
As long as they are lore-friendly of course. Which all the ones we have in ESO are, as far as I can think of.

Just... I prefer not to see them one the battlefield... and especially not when worn by a tank in heavy armor.

Call me wierd, but I just think it should be possible to judge your opponents (or allies) functionality by their visuals in battle. Like... heavy armor - tanky, light armor - healy/spelly, medium armor - stabby... that sort of thing, yes?

CapnPhoton

Bethesda games in general have never really been about showing a lot of skin. There is a more realistic approach to combat gear. If someone wants the semi naughty not so useful for combat stuff they can find plenty of it elsewhere.

Kiralyn2000

Rouven wrote: »

The only thing that "bothers" me about that is that ESO does so well in offering tattoos and other skins ... which are hard to see because you hardly show any skin.

Yeah, it does seem a bit odd that they sell all these skins & body tattoos.... when almost no armor & few costumes will allow them to show.

red_emu

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Call me wierd, but I just think it should be possible to judge your opponents (or allies) functionality by their visuals in battle. Like... heavy armor - tanky, light armor - healy/spelly, medium armor - stabby... that sort of thing, yes?

I agree and disagree at the same time. I agree on the fact that burly warriors in a wedding dress killing things in Cyrodiil is eye jarring but also disagree. At the end of the day, Elder Scrolls has always been about freedom to put on whatever armor you desire. I mean just look at all the magicka sorcs in heavy armor or magicka DKs with a sword and shield? Such is the nature of an online game that you will always come across people who just want to make the ugliest, most immersion breaking character they can, and as much as it hurts my eyes, I applaud the game developers for giving us such freedom.

P.S. that poor bosmer in bikini armor

Gargath

Polishing a huge spear all night is not an easy task, yes .
Sexy entries but still polite, someone must have think this hard to avoid crossing the thin line.

FloppyTouch

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Lol nudity those pics had none XD just a skin mesh were gear should have been.