Cloaks and Scarves

Gan Xing

Ever since I saw this when the game first came out


I hoped that we would have cloaks in game. Since then, I've expanded that to wanting scarves.
I feel like they could add another "accessories" tab to place these on, that would go next to the Helmet slot.

I mean:
(images from LOTRO)




or from runescape



Perhaps this could become another craftable, or something you steal from NPC/homes.

Alpheu5

No ETA

Sneaky-Snurr

More character customisation options are always welcome.

Osteos

Look no further then the ugly Breton Hero costume and then decide if you want more "cloaks" in the game

yodased

Engine can't handle it. Look at Breton hero costume, this is what you would get. Looksbadman.

Alpheu5

Osteos wrote: »

Look no further then the ugly Breton Hero costume and then decide if you want more "cloaks" in the game

That's not a cloak. It's a backward Snuggie that's too small.

Gan Xing

Osteos wrote: »

Look no further then the ugly Breton Hero costume and then decide if you want more "cloaks" in the game

That isn't a cloak... That is more like a trench coat

A cloak is more like

rhapsodious

They don't have a separate rig/physics set up for the capes/cloaks/whatever, which is why the Breton Hero costume looks how it does, and dresses and cloaks are kind of glued to your shins.

I mean, I'd love to be able to have a cape for aesthetics, but right now it'd be pretty potato-looking.

Gan Xing

rhapsodious wrote: »

They don't have a separate rig/physics set up for the capes/cloaks/whatever, which is why the Breton Hero costume looks how it does, and dresses and cloaks are kind of glued to your shins.

I mean, I'd love to be able to have a cape for aesthetics, but right now it'd be pretty potato-looking.

they have a "physics" set up for khajiit and argonian tails, but not for cloaks... with the team they have, i'm sure at least one of them knows a thing or two about physics for cloaks.

Heck, even Chronicles of Elyria already put together the physics and design for cloaks in their game
https://chroniclesofelyria.gamepedia.com/Equipment

https://youtu.be/cawwR8n875s

Mashille

Osteos wrote: »

Look no further then the ugly Breton Hero costume and then decide if you want more "cloaks" in the game

Tryxus

yodased

It's been beaten to death, they have said multiple times the engine could not handle the fluid moving of a cape or cloak.

Just like flying and diving, it isn't going to happen in eso.

Gan Xing

yodased wrote: »

It's been beaten to death, they have said multiple times the engine could not handle the fluid moving of a cape or cloak.

Just like flying and diving, it isn't going to happen in eso.

Ulo

Imagine the lag they would add to Cyrodill, i can live without them

Megabear

You forgot loincloth.

Juhasow

Looks at 3 seconds of footage starting from 2:27
Then 3:05
Then 9:01

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlEipFtHw7o#t=146s

yodased

That is not the same engine as the current one in that old a.f. video

nimander99

If modders can do it for Skyrim and Skyrim SE with physics then Zenimax can do it for capes... Hell, even WoW had capes in 2004...


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yodased

nimander99 wrote: »

If modders can do it for Skyrim and Skyrim SE with physics then Zenimax can do it for capes... Hell, even WoW had capes in 2004...


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Skyrim is single player game. Wow is sprite based cartoon fame without real physics or lighting and shadow.

Apple's and giraffes

Chronicburn

I always liked the full hooded robe style obi-wan wore in Star Wars

Gan Xing

yodased wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

If modders can do it for Skyrim and Skyrim SE with physics then Zenimax can do it for capes... Hell, even WoW had capes in 2004...


pa·thet·ic.
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miserably inadequate:

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Skyrim is single player game. Wow is sprite based cartoon fame without real physics or lighting and shadow.

Apple's and giraffes

Except LoTRO has it, and that is a multi-player game too

Juhasow wrote: »

Looks at 3 seconds of footage starting from 2:27
Then 3:05
Then 9:01

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlEipFtHw7o#t=146s

yodased wrote: »

That is not the same engine as the current one in that old a.f. video

I guess we need to convince them to start investing in a new engine, after all, the current one is over 3 years old, and we all know how much game engines have improved the past 3 years

wenchmore420b14_ESO

Nope. No to capes/cloaks.
They tried it in early beta and again with the Breton Costume.
It was horrible. There is a reason ZoS removed them...
R.I.P. Capes....

Storymaster

Balamoor

I don't buy the lag issue, for the simple reason that if something as simple as a fabric plug in causes that much lag the engine would certainly not be able to handle things like water fire smoke etc etc.

Also we have seen them work

I personally think it's was more of an effort dealing with clipping....Honestly that can be overcome. I just don't think it's in their wheel house so the used the excuse of lag, which to anyone who has worked with programming 3D engines is laughable.

And even if it was true, It literally means they spent twice the money to build an engine that doesn't have half the functionality of a off the shelf engine like Unreal, Unity or CryEngine.

Either way WTF guys......

SHADOW2KK

The server hamsters which are nigh on useless anyway would be even more overworked with the capes etc phsyics, increasing lag for everyone.....

TheShadowScout

it's an old story... yeah, they had intended for there to be cloask in the beginning, then found out their engine can either be super-laggy with decent cloaks, or have cloaks that look pretty cra... uhm, suboptimal, clip through everything and stuff, and decided to leave the whole thing out of ESO player options.

If you want to see how a cloak would be in ESO, pay close attention next time you fight a lich... that's now.

So, don't expect to get cloaks in ESO until and unless we all suddenly get a new generation of computers with vastly increased processing power...

teiselaise

I want capes, nothing shall stand in the way of my capes, NOT EVEN LAG!

MudcrabSammich

I don't know anything about modeling and animation for game engines, but I know that when I create a character in Modo or Cinema 4D and use cloth, it takes significant computer calculation for rendering cloth interaction with character's body movements, wind and such. Also, cloth elements have to have more polygons to simulate realistic cloth fluidity (although in game engines, I think they use trigons, not polys). ESO has such beautiful scenery, I'd hate to ruin the experience with choppy-looking, unrealistic capes, though if they could pull it off, it would be cool and I'd definitely wear one.

FakeFox

Wellcome to Clipping-Simulator the game.

No for real, as much as I would love to see cloaks, I don't think they could make them in a way that isn't a total mess. If you have cloaks you need proper physics, otherwise they look stupid and clip through everything. Imagine riding with your cloak hanging down through your horse instead of laying on its back. I doubt ZOS or the games engine are able to do that.

FakeFox

Balamoor wrote: »

And even if it was true, It literally means they spent twice the money to build an engine that doesn't have half the functionality of a off the shelf engine like Unreal, Unity or CryEngine...

Well...guess what, this is exactly what has happened. I mean just compare ESOs performace to any other AAA RPG/MMO. It's just a complete mess.