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  • GreenhaloX
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    Yeah, as powerful as the destro ult is, the cost is too high for me. I prefer the Ice Comet over it for my mag toons, since the cost is much lower. Also, must be a bug or somethng, but with a certain mag toon, the cost of the destro ult is stuck at 250, even with the Mage guild passive and other majicka-based passives that reduce the cost of majicka-based abilities. Well, another thing to be nerfed.. what a crying shame. It should be criminal! However, an Ice Comet with a cost of 192, yeah, it's a bit more attractive to slot than the destro ult.
  • Qbiken
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    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    Yeah, as powerful as the destro ult is, the cost is too high for me. I prefer the Ice Comet over it for my mag toons, since the cost is much lower. Also, must be a bug or somethng, but with a certain mag toon, the cost of the destro ult is stuck at 250, even with the Mage guild passive and other majicka-based passives that reduce the cost of majicka-based abilities. Well, another thing to be nerfed.. what a crying shame. It should be criminal! However, an Ice Comet with a cost of 192, yeah, it's a bit more attractive to slot than the destro ult.

    •Reduces Magicka and Health cost of Mages Guild abilities by 15%.

    Doesn´t reduce the cost of the ultimate :)
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  • GreenhaloX
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    Yeah, as powerful as the destro ult is, the cost is too high for me. I prefer the Ice Comet over it for my mag toons, since the cost is much lower. Also, must be a bug or somethng, but with a certain mag toon, the cost of the destro ult is stuck at 250, even with the Mage guild passive and other majicka-based passives that reduce the cost of majicka-based abilities. Well, another thing to be nerfed.. what a crying shame. It should be criminal! However, an Ice Comet with a cost of 192, yeah, it's a bit more attractive to slot than the destro ult.

    •Reduces Magicka and Health cost of Mages Guild abilities by 15%.

    Doesn´t reduce the cost of the ultimate :)

    Oh, smack it, you're right.. my bad; braincramped. @Qbiken, thanks for pointing it out. I got Meteor jumbled within somehow.

    Yeah, still can't figure out why, though, for certain mag toons, it's still costing the max of 250; whereas, it's 213 for another. I'm not using any 5-piece that reduces the ult cost. So, I take it the cost reduction of majicka-based abilities that certain class have (or with the LA passive) doesn't really affect the ultimate, then.. or does it? Even for a Meteor's morph, the base cost is 200, but one of my toon is 192 and another at 170, but others are still at 200. I'm not complaining of the cost reduction for the certain toons, but why the difference in cost for certain mag toons. Anyways, the lower cost of the Ice Comet or Shooting Star is what attracted me to slot it over the Elemental Rage and its morph. Now, since it will be nerfed, it's all the better to stick with the Meteor's morphs.
  • wazzz56
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    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    Qbiken wrote: »
    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    Yeah, as powerful as the destro ult is, the cost is too high for me. I prefer the Ice Comet over it for my mag toons, since the cost is much lower. Also, must be a bug or somethng, but with a certain mag toon, the cost of the destro ult is stuck at 250, even with the Mage guild passive and other majicka-based passives that reduce the cost of majicka-based abilities. Well, another thing to be nerfed.. what a crying shame. It should be criminal! However, an Ice Comet with a cost of 192, yeah, it's a bit more attractive to slot than the destro ult.

    •Reduces Magicka and Health cost of Mages Guild abilities by 15%.

    Doesn´t reduce the cost of the ultimate :)

    Oh, smack it, you're right.. my bad; braincramped. @Qbiken, thanks for pointing it out. I got Meteor jumbled within somehow.

    Yeah, still can't figure out why, though, for certain mag toons, it's still costing the max of 250; whereas, it's 213 for another. I'm not using any 5-piece that reduces the ult cost. So, I take it the cost reduction of majicka-based abilities that certain class have (or with the LA passive) doesn't really affect the ultimate, then.. or does it? Even for a Meteor's morph, the base cost is 200, but one of my toon is 192 and another at 170, but others are still at 200. I'm not complaining of the cost reduction for the certain toons, but why the difference in cost for certain mag toons. Anyways, the lower cost of the Ice Comet or Shooting Star is what attracted me to slot it over the Elemental Rage and its morph. Now, since it will be nerfed, it's all the better to stick with the Meteor's morphs.


    @GreenhaloX
    Are you on a sorc when it does this?
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  • Armatesz
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    Some how the thought of bombers makes me think of builds with magical detonation or inevitable detonation... although more funnier to see inevitable detonation and watch their own healers kill them. Lob it on like 3 people that don't know what it is and watch it kill a zerg. Although must admit only way that works is if you are able to do it by surprise or are high enough so they don't see you easily and they are more focused on ground floor stuffs.
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  • GreenhaloX
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    wazzz56 wrote: »
    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    Qbiken wrote: »
    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    Yeah, as powerful as the destro ult is, the cost is too high for me. I prefer the Ice Comet over it for my mag toons, since the cost is much lower. Also, must be a bug or somethng, but with a certain mag toon, the cost of the destro ult is stuck at 250, even with the Mage guild passive and other majicka-based passives that reduce the cost of majicka-based abilities. Well, another thing to be nerfed.. what a crying shame. It should be criminal! However, an Ice Comet with a cost of 192, yeah, it's a bit more attractive to slot than the destro ult.

    •Reduces Magicka and Health cost of Mages Guild abilities by 15%.

    Doesn´t reduce the cost of the ultimate :)

    Oh, smack it, you're right.. my bad; braincramped. @Qbiken, thanks for pointing it out. I got Meteor jumbled within somehow.

    Yeah, still can't figure out why, though, for certain mag toons, it's still costing the max of 250; whereas, it's 213 for another. I'm not using any 5-piece that reduces the ult cost. So, I take it the cost reduction of majicka-based abilities that certain class have (or with the LA passive) doesn't really affect the ultimate, then.. or does it? Even for a Meteor's morph, the base cost is 200, but one of my toon is 192 and another at 170, but others are still at 200. I'm not complaining of the cost reduction for the certain toons, but why the difference in cost for certain mag toons. Anyways, the lower cost of the Ice Comet or Shooting Star is what attracted me to slot it over the Elemental Rage and its morph. Now, since it will be nerfed, it's all the better to stick with the Meteor's morphs.


    @GreenhaloX
    Are you on a sorc when it does this?

    @wazzz56.. Yes, nevermind. I figured it out.. Power Stone. Had a Homer Simpson, d'oh, moment. Dammit, I know it's TGIF, but I gotta quit drinking so early. Ha ha

    Still.. no more nerf.. no more nerf. Say it with me, everybody. No more nerf. Boo.. boo.. boo. Hiss.. hiss to Zen/Bethesda.
    Edited by GreenhaloX on October 13, 2017 5:13PM
  • Asardes
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    1) Use Julianos or Spinner instead of Clever Alchemist
    2) Use tether instead of destro ult
    3) Bomb as usual
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  • Megabear
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    Asardes wrote: »
    1) Use Julianos or Spinner instead of Clever Alchemist
    2) Use tether instead of destro ult
    3) Bomb as usual

    It won't be as effective as before but yes this is a very good alternative.
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  • wazzz56
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    Asardes wrote: »
    1) Use Julianos or Spinner instead of Clever Alchemist
    2) Use tether instead of destro ult
    3) Bomb as usual

    bsw...I have tested them all...bsw hits the hardest imo...spinners is nice...
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  • wazzz56
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    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    wazzz56 wrote: »
    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    Qbiken wrote: »
    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    Yeah, as powerful as the destro ult is, the cost is too high for me. I prefer the Ice Comet over it for my mag toons, since the cost is much lower. Also, must be a bug or somethng, but with a certain mag toon, the cost of the destro ult is stuck at 250, even with the Mage guild passive and other majicka-based passives that reduce the cost of majicka-based abilities. Well, another thing to be nerfed.. what a crying shame. It should be criminal! However, an Ice Comet with a cost of 192, yeah, it's a bit more attractive to slot than the destro ult.

    •Reduces Magicka and Health cost of Mages Guild abilities by 15%.

    Doesn´t reduce the cost of the ultimate :)

    Oh, smack it, you're right.. my bad; braincramped. @Qbiken, thanks for pointing it out. I got Meteor jumbled within somehow.

    Yeah, still can't figure out why, though, for certain mag toons, it's still costing the max of 250; whereas, it's 213 for another. I'm not using any 5-piece that reduces the ult cost. So, I take it the cost reduction of majicka-based abilities that certain class have (or with the LA passive) doesn't really affect the ultimate, then.. or does it? Even for a Meteor's morph, the base cost is 200, but one of my toon is 192 and another at 170, but others are still at 200. I'm not complaining of the cost reduction for the certain toons, but why the difference in cost for certain mag toons. Anyways, the lower cost of the Ice Comet or Shooting Star is what attracted me to slot it over the Elemental Rage and its morph. Now, since it will be nerfed, it's all the better to stick with the Meteor's morphs.


    @GreenhaloX
    Are you on a sorc when it does this?

    @wazzz56.. Yes, nevermind. I figured it out.. Power Stone. Had a Homer Simpson, d'oh, moment. Dammit, I know it's TGIF, but I gotta quit drinking so early. Ha ha

    Still.. no more nerf.. no more nerf. Say it with me, everybody. No more nerf. Boo.. boo.. boo. Hiss.. hiss to Zen/Bethesda.

    @GreenhaloX no worries...I find myself popping random pots to gain ulti while on my magplar sometimes.......so I feel you on the doh moment
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  • Megabear
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    wazzz56 wrote: »
    Asardes wrote: »
    1) Use Julianos or Spinner instead of Clever Alchemist
    2) Use tether instead of destro ult
    3) Bomb as usual

    bsw...I have tested them all...bsw hits the hardest imo...spinners is nice...

    BSW has an advantage of spike damage which is heavily favored in PvP, but there are risks ofc. But I agree that BSW is probably better than Julianos or Spinner even with the risks because it seems to proc fairly easily.
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  • thedude33
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    What about stygian to replace CA ?
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  • Tirps
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    wazzz56 wrote: »
    Asardes wrote: »
    1) Use Julianos or Spinner instead of Clever Alchemist
    2) Use tether instead of destro ult
    3) Bomb as usual

    bsw...I have tested them all...bsw hits the hardest imo...spinners is nice...

    Just for the interest, how do you proc bsw on bomb build? Destro ulti?
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  • BigBadVolk
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    Tirps wrote: »
    wazzz56 wrote: »
    Asardes wrote: »
    1) Use Julianos or Spinner instead of Clever Alchemist
    2) Use tether instead of destro ult
    3) Bomb as usual

    bsw...I have tested them all...bsw hits the hardest imo...spinners is nice...

    Just for the interest, how do you proc bsw on bomb build? Destro ulti?

    yep for bsw the best combi is dark elf, destro ult, but it can work with other races
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