The 1K CP nightmare - ZOS please remove visibility of CPs

anitajoneb17_ESO

I know the default UI only shows the current max CP for players who are above that limit, but several addons allow us to see the real CP number of other players and everybody uses them.
I never cared before but now that I have reached the 1K CP level, it's getting a bit of a big problem.

Whenever I join a new guild, or someone is new to my guilds, I get asked the same things over and over again :
- Wow, 1K CP, you must be such a no-lifer ! (I'm not a no-lifer, just a regular player since launch).
- Wow, 1K CP, you must be such a good player ! (I'm not a good player, just a regular player since launch.)
- Wow, 1K CP, can you please show us / carry us in [insert any vet DLC dungeon here]. (No guys, I can help you with the base-game dungeons but in a DLC vet dungeon, I can at best carry my own weight, not yours on top of that. It's not that I don't want to, it's that I cannot).

I also get semi-random invitations from all kinds of people for filling in a free spot in all kinds of trials. Sorry guys, I may have 1K CP but I never completed vMSA, nor vMOL, and you don't want to have me in your semi-elite group. Again, having 1K CP does NOT mean that I am a good player. It does not mean either that I will bother farming BiS gear every three months to remain "meta-conform".

Besides, I spend 70% of my time ingame just chatting, farming, crafting, trading, fishing. I love to run dungeons and trials too, but not all night and not every night.

If I were antisocial I wouldn't mind just closing the chatbox or telling everyone to go to hell. But I am social and I like to have friendly relationships with people. I don't want potential friendships compromised just because I refused to "help out" in someone else's trial run. And it sucks to explain and apologize every ten minutes for refusing an invitation, and take the time to make it politely. And no matter how much care I take, people will still believe that I simply refused to help them. And also, it sucks to have to explain to everyone and anyone that I'm not a "good player".

Please ZOS, hide everyone's CP level. Or at least, give us the option to hide ours. (I would prefer the first option since everyone will suspect a lowbie behind every "hidden" CP level).

@ZOS_RichLambert

Vimora

You must be really, and I mean REALLY, annoyed by people who notice your 1k CP. This is why you even come to the forums to brag about it, right?

If I appear to be antagonistic, it's only because this is clearly an attempt to troll my parallel thread, which asks for more visible CP.

anitajoneb17_ESO

Vimora wrote: »

You must be really, and I mean REALLY, annoyed by people who notice your 1k CP. This is why you even come to the forums to brag about it, right?

If I appear to be antagonistic, it's only because this is clearly an attempt to troll my parallel thread, which asks for more visible CP.

Actually, I was tempted to write on your thread - but my problem and point of view is so drastically different that I chose to create my own. Because even if both topics revolve around CP visibility, the issue is entirely different.

I wasn't aware that repeatedly mentioning that I am not a good player was equivalent to bragging.

Please stop trolling this thread and stick to yours. Our issues are entirely different.

Qbiken

@eso_nya

#roadto1k

Liofa

Summary for those who don't want to read .

@anitajoneb17_ESO has 1k+ CP and is willing to help/carry anyone .

You can thank me later OP

Zer0oo

What. I never did get a random invite to a pug vhof/vmol pug run.

VaranisArano

ZOS does allow certain things to be "hidden". For example, while a pvp player will always have the correct alliance war rank displayed by their nameplate, they can wear whatever title they want where the title is usually much more visible. Therefore players can wear lowly titles like Recruit when they are in fact a much higher rank up to a Grand Overlord.

anitajoneb17_ESO

Zer0oo wrote: »

What. I never did get a random invite to a pug vhof/vmol pug run.

Lucky you ! What's your trick ?

anitajoneb17_ESO

VaranisArano wrote: »

ZOS does allow certain things to be "hidden". For example, while a pvp player will always have the correct alliance war rank displayed by their nameplate, they can wear whatever title they want where the title is usually much more visible. Therefore players can wear lowly titles like Recruit when they are in fact a much higher rank up to a Grand Overlord.

Correct ! Hadn't thought of that. What I ask for is simply a way to hide CP level (or show a lower CP level), in the same "spirit".

Lord_Eomer

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

I know the default UI only shows the current max CP for players who are above that limit, but several addons allow us to see the real CP number of other players and everybody uses them.
I never cared before but now that I have reached the 1K CP level, it's getting a bit of a big problem.

Whenever I join a new guild, or someone is new to my guilds, I get asked the same things over and over again :
- Wow, 1K CP, you must be such a no-lifer ! (I'm not a no-lifer, just a regular player since launch).
- Wow, 1K CP, you must be such a good player ! (I'm not a good player, just a regular player since launch.)
- Wow, 1K CP, can you please show us / carry us in [insert any vet DLC dungeon here]. (No guys, I can help you with the base-game dungeons but in a DLC vet dungeon, I can at best carry my own weight, not yours on top of that. It's not that I don't want to, it's that I cannot).

I also get semi-random invitations from all kinds of people for filling in a free spot in all kinds of trials. Sorry guys, I may have 1K CP but I never completed vMSA, nor vMOL, and you don't want to have me in your semi-elite group. Again, having 1K CP does NOT mean that I am a good player. It does not mean either that I will bother farming BiS gear every three months to remain "meta-conform".

Besides, I spend 70% of my time ingame just chatting, farming, crafting, trading, fishing. I love to run dungeons and trials too, but not all night and not every night.

If I were antisocial I wouldn't mind just closing the chatbox or telling everyone to go to hell. But I am social and I like to have friendly relationships with people. I don't want potential friendships compromised just because I refused to "help out" in someone else's trial run. And it sucks to explain and apologize every ten minutes for refusing an invitation, and take the time to make it politely. And no matter how much care I take, people will still believe that I simply refused to help them. And also, it sucks to have to explain to everyone and anyone that I'm not a "good player".

Please ZOS, hide everyone's CP level. Or at least, give us the option to hide ours. (I would prefer the first option since everyone will suspect a lowbie behind every "hidden" CP level).

@ZOS_RichLambert

wow 1K CP, you must want to be married with ESO

Deheart

Hmm, this is an interesting truth, CP has nothing to do with how good a player plays. But on the other hand, CP does effect how good your toon is.

Seriously, I have 375 CP, mainly due to the fact that I have multiple alts at CP level, and when I tried to create a new char and only remembered to assign the cp only around lv 10, it felt like my lv 10 suddenly was given god mode.

Having a lv 50 char and having a lv 50 char with 375 cp assigned makes so much difference it almost feels like cheating. I tried playing without and it was significantly harder and much more of a grind, and I was actually dying during pve missions.

anitajoneb17_ESO

Deheart wrote: »

Hmm, this is an interesting truth, CP has nothing to do with how good a player plays. But on the other hand, CP does effect how good your toon is.

Seriously, I have 375 CP, mainly due to the fact that I have multiple alts at CP level, and when I tried to create a new char and only remembered to assign the cp only around lv 10, it felt like my lv 10 suddenly was given god mode.

Having a lv 50 char and having a lv 50 char with 375 cp assigned makes so much difference it almost feels like cheating.

Thanks for commenting without trolling

Yes CP has something to do with the overall character capability (otherwise it would be pointless) - but not above CP660 ! (and soon CP690).
What I ask is for ZOS to tweak the API in order to prevent add-ons to show the "real" CP of players above the current cap. Like the default UI.

lbishopl

I think if you are as social as you say, then giving the same brief answer that you posted here should clear things up without upsetting potential friends.

FloppyTouch

Some one wants every one to know they just reach 1k cp

GG

eso_nya

Qbiken wrote: »

@eso_nya

#roadto1k

There r a few advantages aswell:

- if u pug a normal trial and the group whipes for lacking dps, noone suspects u. someone below cp 600 will get kicked.
- if u walk around in a major hub, all the awesome pvp-heroes have their pants full when just seeing u. noone dares to pop a "autodeclined duel"-message.

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Zer0oo wrote: »

What. I never did get a random invite to a pug vhof/vmol pug run.

Lucky you ! What's your trick ?

Be a bosmer, equip a staff. That helps against the randoms. When your guild ask, theres a very polite word: .
Or tell them u r sry, but u r busy right now making snow angels in a mountain of gold in your manor...
Make sure the ppl u care for know who u r and have everyone else believe u r an arrogant jerk. Not the answer u were hoping for i guess, just the thing that works for me most of the time.
Oh, one thing that makes u look nice while actually being a jerk: When lowbies wisper u and ask for a carry, educate them about game mechanics, math behind sets, meta, builds. Optionally, what u tell them can be true or helpful, more important tho: dont stop talking. Chances r, they wont ask u again xD

Not spending your last CP doesnt work sadly

Feanor

A no lifer with 1k CP would have started May 2017 or so. 1k isn’t special if you have been playing since launch.

anitajoneb17_ESO

lbishopl wrote: »

I think if you are as social as you say, then giving the same brief answer that you posted here should clear things up without upsetting potential friends.

The problem is - those answers are not that short. And repeating them every 10 minutes at peak hours (7=>10pm) is annoying.
Besides, having above 1K CP makes you "stand out" and I do not like that. It looks like many MMO players like to be "noticed" but not me... especially not with the assumption that I must be an outstanding player when I'm far from that.

Takes-No-Prisoner

eso_nya wrote: »

Or tell them u r sry, but u r busy right now making snow angels in a mountain of gold in your manor...

Can I shamelessly barrow this excuse? I love this one.

Kneighbors

Think the dude just wants to tell that he reached 1k cp.

Good Job.

Clap Clap Clap

Please look at him

Everybody want him, everybody need him.

jaws343

Deheart wrote: »

Hmm, this is an interesting truth, CP has nothing to do with how good a player plays. But on the other hand, CP does effect how good your toon is.

Seriously, I have 375 CP, mainly due to the fact that I have multiple alts at CP level, and when I tried to create a new char and only remembered to assign the cp only around lv 10, it felt like my lv 10 suddenly was given god mode.

Having a lv 50 char and having a lv 50 char with 375 cp assigned makes so much difference it almost feels like cheating. I tried playing without and it was significantly harder and much more of a grind, and I was actually dying during pve missions.

CP does effect your toon's strength before you hit the cap. But the difference between someone with 660 CP and 1000 CP is just time spent playing.

rotaugen454

I can see hitting 1000 CP. I am at 895, started at beta, and didn't grind CP very efficiently yet still got to 895.

I get a ton of "friend requests" in the game, and it does get annoying when they get spammed. Not from people I did a pug dungeon with. Just random people when I am in cities. No chat, just a friend request. Hey, at least buy me a drink first!

Kneighbors

rotaugen454 wrote: »

I can see hitting 1000 CP. I am at 895, started at beta, and didn't grind CP very efficiently yet still got to 895.

I get a ton of "friend requests" in the game, and it does get annoying when they get spammed. Not from people I did a pug dungeon with. Just random people when I am in cities. No chat, just a friend request. Hey, at least buy me a drink first!

Realize that most of those friend requests are made by people who see only cp660. They don't even know about your great achievements.

kojou

Can I a big red "1K+" over my character's head when I reach 1000 CP? I want everybody to know I am in the club.

Sixty5

I doubt ZoS will ever do something like that, just seems like a very minor issue.

The only suggestion I can make is to play attractive female characters, that way people will have something else to look at, and not notice your cp.

anitajoneb17_ESO

Sixty5 wrote: »

I doubt ZoS will ever do something like that, just seems like a very minor issue.

The remedy is very small too : it only consists in making this data not accessible via the API.

Which reminds me that I should tag @ZOS_ChipHilseberg on this one.

And thanks for the tip but no thanks. I don't want to have to attract more a**holes just to get less attention from regular people...

ThePrinceOfBargains

This is unnecessary. This is one of those things that would be done to avoid the inconvenience of talking to someone like a normal person. No. Use your words. If you don’t want to do it, just say so.

anitajoneb17_ESO

TheMaster wrote: »

This is unnecessary. This is one of those things that would be done to avoid the inconvenience of talking to someone like a normal person. No. Use your words. If you don’t want to do it, just say so.

What makes seeing any CP-level above the current cap useful anyway ?

As I said, I don't mind explaining, but having to repeat over and over is annoying. Just like the fact that many newer players, not familiar with the CP system, will still believe that I just didn't want to help them, no matter what I say.

If ZOS does nothing, at least hurry up you all and get your 1K too, so that I can disappear in the crowd again ;-)

vamp_emily

@anitajoneb17_ESO Can you carry me through skyreach ( just teasing )

Until Zeni solves your problem , you can type something like this when someone messages you:

Cześć, jak się masz, teraz jestem zajęty.

Normally they won't respond if you are on the NA server.

DisgracefulMind

VaranisArano wrote: »

ZOS does allow certain things to be "hidden". For example, while a pvp player will always have the correct alliance war rank displayed by their nameplate, they can wear whatever title they want where the title is usually much more visible. Therefore players can wear lowly titles like Recruit when they are in fact a much higher rank up to a Grand Overlord.

That trick really doesn't work when you're a GO. I wish LOL. I get spammed for duel invites anytime I'm in PvE land, and if I bring mine into PvP I'm a bigger target than ever. It's just the life of GO, but whatever lol.

Mazbt

I'm in a pretty noob friendly casual trading guild (an officer) and sometimes get people whispering me about build advice (I'm about 975). That's the worst of it thankfully. And it doesn't happen often.

GreenhaloX

Just start a 1k CP club guild. I'm sure there are plenty of other players with over 1k CP out there in the game or folks in the 900 CP and higher bracket. Sure, if anyone has been playing and still playing since launch, they would surely be over 1k CP.